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drbilldean@gmail.com's avatar

Is The Gestapo Just ICE?

It could be that the plain clothes Gestapo agents are not of the ICE agency but come from the Orange Cheeto's J6 paramilitary group released from prison included but not limited to the Proud Boys 3percenters and other far right extremist groups The reason for hoodies and face masks is to avoid identification This should be a "project" by the same groups that helped identify the J6 insurrectionists

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Beth Witrogen's avatar

ICE is just the Gestapo, and most certainly they are the pardoned J6er loyalists.

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Melanie's avatar

Donald Trump is trying to take away from the fact that he is in the Epstein files and he also cheated on the elections. We’re not going to forget!

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David Maceira's avatar

The Epstein files is just the tip of the iceberg. He's lost 95% of his court cases. Xi made him waffle on tariffs. Putin ignored his pleas to stop the war. Zelenskyy makes him look weak on a daily basis. The feud with Musk made him look like an angry toddler. The stock market, economy, GDP, employment numbers all in the crapper. He needed to accomplish a hard and fast deflect and distract. Sending troops into Cali to suppress protestors right before the "No King's" protests. My how convenient.

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Wendy Arnold's avatar

Trump wants to show the world he is in complete control. After this, hopefully, he doesn't call in the Marines to subdue the American population. Next, it's it the show of how scary he is: He will show the world his military soldiers who do everything he orders. Trump's big military equipment will be on display. This is designed to make everyone feel intimidated who does not think like him. All of this is intended to demonstrate that he is in charge.

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Connie Larsen's avatar

Trump can’t even control his bowels!

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Kate Arendt's avatar

The Marines would (I hope) know better than to obey illegal orders from a convicted felon.

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Susan A Dunkelberger's avatar

I hope the Marines and all USA military will stay strong and not obey illegal orders from our disgusting presidential cowardly felon!!!🇺🇸💙💙💙

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Pat Robinson's avatar

Of course all this will backfire bigly since what he is doing will decimate the American economy and as he has said, other nations want our money...when we don't have it to spend, they won't care about whether or not he's in control of the US and he sure won't be in control of the rest of the world. And yet the GOP Congress does not see this. Or they see it and still don't care, still crave that pat on the head from trump while hurting their constituents.

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David Maceira's avatar

Control? Like t did on J6th??

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Carolyn Harris's avatar

So what happens if, while he is showing off his big.. cannons and tanks someone drops a bomb on it all?

Just daydreaming.

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Jane in NC's avatar

Spam. Reported.

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Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

That person (or those people) never give up! I've reported them too but they keep coming back.

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Jane in NC's avatar

Most likely bots, but keep reporting them.

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Beth Witrogen's avatar

exactly

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K McGady's avatar

You assume he thinks we are actual people, and not chattel or serfs...

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colline collins's avatar

no....just expendible

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K McGady's avatar

Well....yes, though we are expendable once he gets whatever he can from us, would you not agree? Just look at how he treats people who work for him. He uses their time and resources, and once their value is over for him, he discards them.

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Elyse Gunter's avatar

That assume he "thinks." I doubt that's true with respect to most of his behavior, not in the sense of the word that implies more than reflex.

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Carolyn Harris's avatar

Not forgetting is not going to help right now. Put on your thinking cap.

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Patrice Mobley's avatar

😂😂😂😂Exactly orange mango switch and bait

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Schmendryck's avatar

Y'beat me to it, but this is absolutely the correct response.

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Susan Raquel's avatar

"In her statement, Governor Noem emphasized the alarming reality that those who participated in the riots could potentially hold significant roles within an agency responsible for national security and immigration enforcement. By allowing these individuals to serve in Homeland Security, critics argue that it raises questions about the integrity and motives of the agency, particularly regarding its approach to immigration enforcement."

I can't find an exact quote or when she said this. One site says she told this to Congress.

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Beth Witrogen's avatar

I’m sure she said it, I vaguely remember it too. So much shit hitting the fan constantly, cannot keep up with it. Nor is it healthy to even try!

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Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

"Most certainly"? Evidence, please.

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Linda Wallers's avatar

Ifthose are J6ers, that increases the possibility of incited violence - they would love to start a new civil war and Trump is anxious to use the Insurrection Act.

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drbilldean@gmail.com's avatar

Absolutely

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Betty Deleon's avatar

Yes one of his stooges said there were some of Jan 6 guys in it.

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KellyW's avatar

Pretty sure he “appointed” those pardoned j6 criminals to be ICE agents. 😡

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Rosanne Jacalone's avatar

Please warn readers that violent protest plays right into his hands. He wants us to be violent so he can invoke Martial Law. Protest yes, violence no. Be strategic!!’

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Beth Witrogen's avatar

Violence won’t come from us the people, but from his militia infiltrating.

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Carolyn Harris's avatar

Yes, that is worth considering. The more you fight them the more he can say how out of control and violent you are. This will give him the excuse to up the ante.

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MaryAnne Barnett's avatar

Come on Meidas Mighty, we can outsmart this idiot easily, we all know how ignorant he is, it wouldn't take much.

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Patricia Lafond Valade's avatar

I’ve been sharing the same suspicion, that’s why they’re wearing masks, because they could be recognizable. This is no coincidence, he pardoned them for a reason, he wanted an army of loyalists to once again “Stand Back and Stand By”. Lev Parnas is suggesting that this may be a dress rehearsal for June 14th. Trump wants an excuse to declare martial law.

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Beth Witrogen's avatar

Seems probable …

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David Baird's avatar

These Gestapo hoons ARE just ICE, without the justice.

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Dee Joy's avatar

Exactly the ICE Gestapo. These proud boys and jan6 insurrectionists are now suing for $100 million for the devastation they created!!

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shri Kingsford's avatar

That fits he made them Marshall's and part of ice 1000 per person arrested. Trump said that in February.

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michael ospina's avatar

no they are the first iteration of the brown nosers/shits I mean shirts

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Monica Kolovich's avatar

Trumppee the arswhole

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Dave Venable's avatar

Another domino falls. “We’re gonna send troops everywhere…”.

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Jean Capron's avatar

I’m seeing posts about just that. Sounds like it is happening.

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Mary Ann's avatar

I agree wholeheartedly!

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Susan's avatar

What happened in LA was not an "insurrection". There was, however, an "insurrection" ... on 6 January 2021. MAGA are such absolute, total and utter lying hypocrites. It makes my blood boil to see this, and I'm not even American, just a freedom-loving Aussie.

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Calandra Mulder's avatar

Same sentiment exactly from here in Canada.

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Paddy Holly's avatar

Ditto from B.C., 🇨🇦

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Wtrsvr's avatar

And Ontario 🇨🇦

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Karen Spencer's avatar

Thanks to B.C.as well😍. Stands for Beautiful Country, right? Absolutely ❤️. It’s moving to hear from all our forever good neighbors. We appreciate the support🥰!

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Estelle Grace's avatar

More thumbs up from Canada!!! please America stand your ground so we don’t have to, too! But we are indeed right behind you!

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Karen Spencer's avatar

Love you Canada 🇨🇦 and sincere apologies for the undeserved horrendous ill treatment your getting from that imposter thrump.

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KATHRYN FERENCZ's avatar

Me too !

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Mathias Risse's avatar

In fact we can call them Clone Troops like in Star Wars. They behave like Trump's clones and threaten the Republic like that.

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Susan Wurtz's avatar

God bless you Aussie 🙏

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Kmiscmail's avatar

And we are so embarrassed that your reporter was observed then, with obvious premeditation, targeted with a rubber bullet while acting in her professional capacity.

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Karen Spencer's avatar

Thank you Susan for having our backs and caring about the gross injustices we’re fighting against here. We love you all down under, you Aussie’s with my favorite accents🤗.

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Glenda Clark's avatar

Thank you for your support my friend. another freedom loving person.

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C Endres's avatar

Jan 6 was an insurrection. You are just gaslighting. Rolling my eyes so hard right now.

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Jeff's avatar

Yawn

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edgar schmidt's avatar

You support terrorists

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SoulRose's avatar

STAND STRONG. STAND UNITED. WE. THE. PEOPLE!

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Angelbuttercup85's avatar

This is what Trump wants....it's funny that he's calling the national guard for California but wouldn't call them on the January 6 rioters.

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Sally Skellington's avatar

Yes, isn't that amazing. Another I can do what I want, but you the AMERICAN PEOPLE cannot. Isn't that just like a hitler regime? Pathetic, all of them and quite embarrassing. 😂

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Jean Conley's avatar

Excellent comment, Angel!

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Barbara's avatar

It is also unlawful to grab people off the street. This would not even exist without the ICE and thugs grabbing people with NO DUE CAUSE other than the color of their skin.

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Jean Conley's avatar

This wouldn't exist without The Dictator Criminal Deranged More On Idiot Psycho in the Oval Office. (Ummmmmm should I add COMMUNIST and NAZI to the description I have of him?????)

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Barbara's avatar

Agreed

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MC's avatar

We’re sending troops everywhere???stand down , National guards. Military? Don’t get involved. We don’t fight our own. Trump said that he will send troops everywhere!!! We will be an occupied country before you know it. When we protest, we must do so peacefully. Don’t give them an excuse to start the shooting.

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K McGady's avatar

...although Communist and Nazi are antithetical terms. ...but then, I get what you are saying and I agree.

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Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

NO COMMUNISTS AND NAZIS ARE THE SAME. BOTH ARE AUTHORITARIAN SYSTEMS BASED ON ELITE RULE. THEY ARE JUST DIFFERENT IN NAME. THEY CAN BOTH CAUSE TREMENOUS HARM TO THE PEOPLE.

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K McGady's avatar

1. No need to "shout". 2. Maybe the result is analagous, but go back and re-read the philosophies behind communism, marxism, and Nazi-ism. You will see that they are fundamentally different philosophies. One is based in a desire to return to a past glory, the other is a desire to eradicate class differences. Check out the book by George Orwell called "Animal Farm" for a literary description, told as an allegorical story, that showcases a Commiunist society, where all are equal, but some are "more equal" than others, and then check out his book called "1984" for a look at an authoritarian society based in fascism. 3. Agreed that both Communism and Fascism cause tremendous harm to most people, and have NO PLACE in our country!

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K McGady's avatar

Read up on political ideologies and QUIT YELLING. You and I are actually on the same side…and we both know fascists, communists, and authoritarians of all stripes harm people in their eternal quests for power and wealth.

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Mathias Risse's avatar

This wouldn't have happened, if the conservatives didn't sleep with fascists, as they did since 2016. They did the mistake like Papen and Hindenburg 1932-33

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Steve Doll's avatar

Somewhere, someone is going to react violently against the ICE thugs, enabling them to remove these cowardly masks and reveal that these are indeed J6 criminals. A little gentle persuasion by the proper authorities will get them to fess up that they were indeed coopted by the treasonous turd to serve as his Gestapo in exchange for their pardon. Then the dung will hit the whirling blade.

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Dee Joy's avatar

Now these insurrectionists are suing for $100 million for the devastation they caused! Unbelievable

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Karen Spencer's avatar

And to fill Trump’s quota of 3000 warm bodies A Day-regardless of status. Now, he’s upping his daily count.

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Dawn's avatar
Jun 9Edited

I agree with Governor and Mayor of California 100%!

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Jacki's avatar

This shouldn’t be happening. He should be in jail.

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Steve Doll's avatar

Preferably in El Salvador.

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Martha Kenne's avatar

Trump is vile.

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Dottie Fanning's avatar

My husband when he heard on the news today what tRump did about calling 2000 National Guard troops., stated. That's just what Nixon did to Kent State, May 4th, 1970. His friend was attending school and at a protest there when bullets when whizing by his head.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

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Betty Deleon's avatar

Yes one girl was killed. I was in college when that happened. Horrible.

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Dottie Fanning's avatar

4 college students were killed and 9 others injured. My husband was at University of Cincinnati at that time.

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Betty Deleon's avatar

I believe you, it was horrific. Americans killing Americans.

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Barbara Millar's avatar

Four students were killed. Nine were injured. It sparked enormous protests on college campuses. The governor requested the National Guard be sent in after student protests in Kent, Ohio.

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sharon Portside's avatar

C.S.N.+ Y OHIO 😓

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Nick Adams's avatar

Wasn't Reagan the Governor of California then?

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Dottie Fanning's avatar

Kent State is in Ohio, so it wouldn't matter if Reagan was Governor.

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Beth Witrogen's avatar

Thank you Ben for this update!

As a Californian I’m glad to see Newsom stepping up. He has the chops to do it, if he can keep eyes on the prize and I don’t mean running for office in 2028.

I’m glad also to hear that governors are stepping up. THIS is what it will take, not just us people protesting, but elected officials united across all states, keeping legal issues foremost, and challenging everything.

This is no coincidental timing. You’re right, they WANT the escalation. It’s an autocratic playbook straight from fascist and gestapo tactics.

We know they have recruited the J6ers they pardoned, and why these loyalists wear masks. But we outnumber them.

And we have the Meidas Network!

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

Newsom tried to gaslight Canadians into visiting California last month; He told us it was safe for Canadians.

He just wanted our tourism dollars.

Clearly, it isn’t even safe for people living there, let alone Canadians who are treated like criminals by this regime.

“California governor urges Canadians to ignore Trump, come back for sand, sun and wine”

“Gavin Newsom released video urging Canadians to tour state again, amid sharp downturn in U.S.-bound travel”

https://www.facebook.com/GavinNewsom/videos/988970293379707/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Many states have tried the same:

https://www.travelpulse.ca/news/features/american-destinations-still-wooing-canadians

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christopher wilson's avatar

This has NOTHING to do with Gavin Newsome “ Wanting your dollars!” You’re very hubristic for a fucking Canadian, and I’m half Canadian so I know whereof I speak. It’s EVERYTHING about the lawlessness of DJT and his cabal of mental cases. California doesn’t need your money, it’s the 4th biggest economy in the world.

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

I can tell which side isn’t the Canadian.🙄

Typical American arrogance: “we don’t need your money”. Really? Then why are a bunch of states begging us to visit?

What other reason than tourism would California wants Canadians to visit?

Do you what TOURISM is?

“California governor urges Canadians to ignore Trump, come back for sand, sun and wine

Gavin Newsom released video urging Canadians to tour state again, amid sharp downturn in U.S.-bound travel”. TOURISM

https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1911952963679244533?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1911952963679244533%7Ctwgr%5Ec8c8d03d6049cb833b6b4786d302fa38575a8e84%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbc.ca%2Fnews%2Fcanada%2Fbritish-columbia%2Fcalifornia-governor-gavin-newsom-tourism-1.7511176

https://www.travelpulse.ca/news/features/american-destinations-still-wooing-canadians

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/california-governor-gavin-newsom-tourism-1.7511176

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Steve Doll's avatar

Maybe, just maybe, that's because absent the Dump's lawless actions against the people, it would be perfectly safe to go to California. For myself, I wouldn't spend my money in Canada because they still allow the slaughter of baby seals for - yep, for that money. I'd rather see it made from people enjoying themselves than killing babies for human vanity, MR. Canadian.

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Cold and Prickly's avatar

It’s safe for Canadians, but not brown people or those protesting the fed’s aggression

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

There is no place safe for Canadians in the US, every border guard treats us like criminals.

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Cold and Prickly's avatar

I’m very sorry you are getting that treatment. Is it at border crossings? I know the great majority of US folks feel love, welcoming, respect, and support you in your anger.

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

Border guards are taking phones, holding people between 3hrs to 24hrs. No phone calls, no telling anyone where you are or what’s happened. People have been stripped searched without cause.

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Cold and Prickly's avatar

That’s horrifying. As a U.S. I am heartbroken at this treatment. It’s the opposite of who we are and how we feel about Canadians. I dare say even most MAGAs didn’t vote for that, though many are deep in misinformation and hate.

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Jean Conley's avatar

Possibly a Dictator Criminal Occupier-of-the-Oval Office fan here.........???????

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

Not even close. I hate Trump but I also don’t appreciate a governor who gaslights my country for tourism dollars

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Kay Moore's avatar

I hear you, but this just started today. Geez

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Cold and Prickly's avatar

Newsome doesn’t control the border crossings though, which is where you say Canadians are getting the bad treatment.

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Estelle Grace's avatar

What about Brown Canadians? We have those up here you know? 🤣

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Dee Joy's avatar

USA is NOT safe for anyone to visit while traitor trump and his evll regime and his ICE Gestapo rule over the land.

Don't forget they fired the FAA, so planes are falling out of the sky and crashing into helicopters. USA is totally unsafe for visitors and even the people who live there.

I agree with you, newsom just wants your tourism dollars. Canadians are a part of why California has such great economy.

Keep boycotting. Fascists and evll billionaires do NOT deserve our hard earned money. FDT

Fascists get nothing!

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

Thanks for that🙂

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Tamara's avatar

Are you complaining about the Governor’s inability to tell the future?? Give us all a break! We need your support right now, not your interference. If you can’t do that, shut up and sit down.

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

It has nothing to do with the future. The treatment of Canadians was ONGOING at the time of his video.

So why don’t YOU sit down until you know what you’re talking about.

OUR help?!

Maybe you forgot what your Dictator and regime have been trying to do to us.

He’s not content to burn YOUR country to the ground, he wants to take us with you.

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Tamara's avatar

Firstly, Trump is NOT my president nor my dictator! I don’t care if you come here or not, but to sit up there in Canada all smug and shit is not helping! I never wanted this hell I’ve lost family and friends because of the MFer. Just understand, that everything is fluid and we non maga are trying to do what we can to deal with the hell that we warned about for a decade and now we are living.

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

Perhaps some us Canadian are tired of being “nice” as America shots all over us, calling us mooches, completely ignoring the sacrifices we’ve made for America over generations.

Perhaps we aren’t all in a forgiving mood for +70Million Americans onboard with taking our country, abusing our goodwill, telling us they don’t need us, while sending senators to beg us to spend money on tourism.

Perhaps we’re getting tired of all these people telling us we’re not a country, and we’re going to be forced to join the US, saying it’s a better country.

Meanwhile, we watch the US burn from within.

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Tamara's avatar

Perhaps, you know who your enemy is, over 75 mil Americans in which I am one voted to VP Harris, never voted for Drumpf and agree with you!!!!! Figure out who your adversary is and quit arguing and agitating with the folks who are on the side for Canada and who are free, loving and peaceful and appreciate the contributions of our neighbors to the north. Dude, you are not helping by doing what you are doing here!!!! Go on X and bitch to them. 😠

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

Nothing you’ve said voids the fact that Newcom gaslit us.

So I AM fighting one of the right people for contributing to our safety concerns.

If don’t like my perspective than move along and stop reading, but it doesn’t make me wrong. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Tamara's avatar

No it makes you ass! So done with you. Apparently a narcissist.

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Estelle Grace's avatar

I just came back to Canada from 9 days in the US and everybody at the border was very friendly and respectful. The majority of the people in the western States have got their head screwed on straight and are willing to fight for democracy. I stand with them.

Moved here 25 years ago during the bush administration. The writing has been on the wall for this for a long time. But the orange turd has to go.

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

Then you were a lucky one of many not so lucky.

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Connie Martin's avatar

I am sure our great governor of California was doing what all tourist states do, which is promoting our state to share in the large amount of tourism that comes into the US each year. However, Newsom's advertising/promotion of California was BEFORE the turn of events that are currently taking place in LA. The harassment & military force put upon our citizens has been going on for the last three (3) days, due solely to the psychopath currently in the Oval Office. The moron illegally called in the National Guard (That is a call reserved for the Governor of each state!) and had already deputized some of the January 6th insurrectionists to police our citizens. Governor Newsom would never knowingly put visitors or our citizens in jeopardy or risk. For everyone's sake, I suggest that no one come to California unless they are already a resident, especially in Southern California. Stay safe and pray for us. California is just the beginning...

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OriginalKaDs's avatar

His promotion video was before protests but NOT before it became dangerous for Canadians.

We’ve known well enough to NOT listen to Senators and Governors looking after their own states’ interests and to listen to our government who has issued several warnings against entering the US.

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Angelbuttercup85's avatar

They are taking US citizens and have been pushing on the crowds causing the contact. Now ypu want to cause a delima and making matters worse. The military and national guard suppose to protect the people and not be against them.

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SLMontgo's avatar

Trump actually keeps a straight face while stating, "We will be very strong on law and order, not like under Biden and his autopen" ... Bidens' AUTOPEN?? Did Joe attack us with a pen of some sort, imprison people without due process, disappearing them without due process? Talk about swatting a gnat with a nuclear device. If Trump actually gave a catturd about law and order, he would march his flabby ass into a NYState slam and pay that restitution he owes bigly.

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Eileen Travis's avatar

We want law & order - Arrest Trump & his cabal

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Alastriona's avatar

As a Californian I stand with my governor and my state.

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Jean Conley's avatar

So do the rest of us (mainly Democrats) who are smart enough to not support The Dictator Criminal Orange Buffoon Psycho in the Oval Office.

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Dave Carew's avatar

WHAT’S HAPPENING in LA is the domestic version of “wag the dog.” A (pathetic) president’s failures cause him to lose public approval so he resorts to violence or the threat of violence to get his rubes to fall back into line. An old trick, and Benedict Donald’s version of it fools no one with an IQ.

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Mary Rickards's avatar

Absolutely agree with Governor Newsom! And I hope he sues ASAP!

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