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Linda Heptner's avatar

Wouldn't it be nice if this administration cared this much about the children that have died in school shootings and cared about their families that no longer have their child??????

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Dawn's avatar

And care about the children in the Epstein Files too! Heck are children still being raped by Epstein followers?!

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Reginald's avatar

And the children in Gaza!

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Grunt67's avatar

INDEED! The genocide by Netanyahu and Israel is real, and anyone who dares to say it out loud are being doxxed & threatened. ‼️

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Ellen Franzen's avatar

That's what I was thinking.

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Patricia Anne Boone's avatar

Get your shit outta here!! Get your own Substack!’

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Sandra Wallace's avatar

And the children in Ukraine!

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Elaine Lueras's avatar

You know they are. These people never stop.

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Theresa Eaton's avatar

Probably

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Maur OBrien's avatar

Really, probably? Jesus, you are a woman! Be ashamed, be very very ashamed of yourself‼️😭

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

Nope, 👎 shame on you, whomever you are. Just because Theresa stated a sad truth, doesn’t mean she, or any of us, condone the behavior, nor does it mean that we are going to give up fighting to have everyone involved in that filth exposed & punished.

Those evidence boxes & tapes contain the names of many VERY wealthy & very politically powerful people. It’s not just DT, there’s at least 3 of the men in Trump’s cabinet who are involved. The Saudi Prince MBS, former PM of Israel, Ehud Barak, & so many others. The money trail is vast.

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Ellen T Corcoran's avatar

Exactly! Maur O Brien is bullying and being abusive to Theresa, who said nothing wrong. How is this helpful? There are plenty of people to go after. Ms O Brien needs to get her priorities straight!

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Maur OBrien's avatar

She said “PROBABLY” when it is DEFINITELY 💯. SO F OFF

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Roberta Houle's avatar

Maur OBrian. Re: your responses to Theresa Eadon. The ones you need to pour your anger on are the pedophiles and enablers. One word will not change how Theresa obviously feels. I’m sorry you were victimized for so long, and felt so alone. I can relate, unfortunately most of us as women can. Let’s not turn on each other. We need to support each other, and epstein and trump’s survivors.

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Maur OBrien's avatar

FUCK YOU KNOW NOTHING IF NOT A VICTIM‼️⚡️✨🙏♥️

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Ellen T Corcoran's avatar

Stop bullying! Theresa did NOTHING wrong!

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Theresa Eaton's avatar

I don't know any women who have not been sexually abused,including a. me.

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Maur OBrien's avatar

PJ Ever been sexually abused by your own blood father as young as 4 years old every night until 11 years old??????

Then you may have the privilege to speak to me, BITCH‼️⚡️🥹

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Ellen T Corcoran's avatar

You are sooo angry at someone who you totally misjudged! Theresa NEVER condoned these crimes. You need to apologise!

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Laurie Vedmar's avatar

I was sexually abused when I was 5 by an old man neighbor friend and I know, but you don't need to lash out at other people who are sympathizing with you. You need to talk with someone but we support you, not condem. God bless and I will be thinking of you🫂🤗

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Maur OBrien's avatar

SICK FUCKING BITCH THINK YOU ARE A PERFECT HUMAN BEING

“JANIE’S GOT A GUN.. WHAT DID HER DADDY DO.. IT’S JANIE’S LAST IOU..”

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Maur OBrien's avatar

I am aware so STFU‼️🤬

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Ellen T Corcoran's avatar

Unbelievable. Stop the abuse.

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Maur OBrien's avatar

That matters NOT, who those swine are, PJ‼️⚡️❤️‍🩹

Why you yelling at me I AM THE ONE SCREAMING AT THERESA AND ALL TO BELIEVE THE VICTIM CHILDREN‼️⚡️⚡️⚡️✌🏼

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Sandy's avatar

Why should she be ashamed for speaking the truth? Did you misunderstand her comment? Pedophiles don't stop. It happened in my fam...my stepdad, his brother and his father -the latter well into his elder years w/ his grandchildren.

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Theresa Eaton's avatar

I'm so sorry that these grown men are raping their own children and grandchildren.hell awaits their souls.

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Elaine Lueras's avatar

Sandy, I am so sorry. This abuse is devastating.

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Maur OBrien's avatar

I am a victim of my own father from 4yo ~ 11 yo b/c my 10 year older sister saw sexual abuse and refused to help me even though I sobbed & begged her to

help me & bring me to my mother & make him stop!!🛑

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Jax's avatar

So with that experience, why are you attacking others? We all have experiences with pedophiles, otherwise we wouldn’t be fighting for others.

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Elaine Lueras's avatar

I'm so sorry this happened to you, Maur. This abuse is soul-crushing.

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Charles Day's avatar

Teresa had nothing to do with that, don't be mad at her, be mad at your sister.

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Terry's avatar

I'm sorry that happened to you - no excuse for predator men. However please stop lashing out at people who did you no wrong. Your anger is misplaced. Please get somer help.

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Roberta Houle's avatar

Sandy. I’m so sorry you had to endure that. Sending you strength and support. From Canada. 💕

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Maur OBrien's avatar

Should have been DEFINITELY then‼️⚡️💯

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Charles Day's avatar

Obviously you still have problems.You need to seek help, it not about you. Probably was good enough.

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Maur OBrien's avatar

You are a complete idiot‼️IT’S YOU WHO MIS UNDERSTOOD ME ASSWIPE AND I AM A VERY LONGTIME VICTIM OF HORRID CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE‼️YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING UNLESS YOU ARE A LONGTIME CHILD VICTIM W/ NO EMOTIONAL SUPPORT❣️❤️‍🩹💔

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Maur OBrien's avatar

SHOULD BE DEFINITELY WHO WILL EVER BELIEVE THE CHILDREN AND WOMEN????????

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Roberta Houle's avatar

People already believe them. The ones who don’t have their own twisted reasons.

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Maur OBrien's avatar

BULLSHIT REGULAR PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE THEM, the victims, SOME OF MY FAMILY STILL DON’T BELIEVE IT OR THEY DO BUT CAN’T FIND THE EMOTIONAL EMPATHY FOR ME EVER IN THEIR LIFETIMES AND PUNISHED ME FOR IT!!! They all abandoned me as a child for it!!! I had to grow up alone from 4 years old to 20 years old by myself completely alone! My parents worked full time!!! My 10 year older sister, the oldest hated my guts since I was a baby and made my life miserable until the day she died! Yet I was kind to her once I grew up..🙏❤️‍🩹🙁

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Elaine Lueras's avatar

I can't tell you the sadness I feel at how pervasive sexual abuse is. The wounds are as fresh as if it happened yesterday. The pain in your voices is palpable. As the pain in the voices of the Epstein survivors is palpable. Why can't Congress hear this and release the Epstein files? Don't they have wives, mothers and daughters? Not to mention the young men and boys that are also sexually abused. This is a voice for them too. All to protect the bloated, doddering,ignorant embarrassing orange imbecile and his billionaire buddies. There is no deodorant like money. I'm sorry that you all have had to experience such abuse.

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Roberta Houle's avatar

Elaine Lueras. Thank you for this.

It never goes away, you just have to learn how to cope with it, and live with it. This whole conversation triggered me really badly last night. I was deeply upset. I still am this morning. Decades later. Time doesn’t heal anything. You just learn different ways of coping, and surviving. And learning that some of your favourite relatives would rather abandon you, and keep the sacred ‘family secret’ than support you. So many layers. So many losses. I so appreciate how women are speaking out about their experiences. It’s not our secret to carry.

Have a good day. 💕🇨🇦

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Charles Day's avatar

What you are doing is shameful!

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Maur OBrien's avatar

Get screwed hard & twist up your ass little bitch

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Maur OBrien's avatar

NO YOU ARE SHAMEFUL FOR BULLYING A

LONGTIME VICTIM OF MULTIPLE ABUSERS OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF ABUSE‼️⚡️❤️‍🩹

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Maur OBrien's avatar

Terri F OFF BITCH ARE YOU A VICTIM???

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Maur OBrien's avatar

Terri I don’t think that!! Get off my back!!!

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Maur OBrien's avatar

Did I say that, NO NOT EVER‼️🤬❤️‍🩹🙏❤️‍🩹🙏❤️‍🩹🙏❤️‍🩹🙏❤️‍🩹🙏❤️‍🩹🙏❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

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Maur OBrien's avatar

You are Sick I am a long time victim‼️😤 TELL ME WHY YOU SAID THEY PROBABLY ARE STILL RAPING CHILDREN INSTEAD OF DEFINITELY THERESA?????????

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Ellen T Corcoran's avatar

Enough! Stop bullying!

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AMY STARKEY's avatar

Why are you lying to all these people and why are you antagonizing them. Is this all a game to you? I agree that if you were abused (questionable due to your disrespect of others) and this is how you are acting, YOU NEED HELP! I mean this as a matter of constructive criticism and being also a victim. Though nothing like you are talking about. Sorry if it's true and not just some reason to harass people using the sympathy route.

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Maur OBrien's avatar

You are fckn nuts!! I never said that crazy 🤪

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Ellen T Corcoran's avatar

Exactly!

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Maur OBrien's avatar

WHAT DO YOU THINK??? The richest most powerful secretive Leaders in the World Sex Traffickers???

OF COURSE THEY ARE‼️⚡️❤️‍🩹 It’s INTERNATIONAL ‼️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

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Jax's avatar

I was thinking, when was the last time a child that was a victim of gun violence was transported on the VP’s plane!

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Cheryl Seybert's avatar

Jax, I’m going with NEVER!!

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Rachel Doane's avatar

What a great question….I assume it’s because no child was the vitriolic mouth piece for a hate filled administration, and Charlie Kirk was their well funded agent of strategic chaos. RIP Charlie (the last letter does NOT stand for peace but it does rhyme with it.)

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Ellen T Corcoran's avatar

Rest in Pieces, Charlie.

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Steve Doll's avatar

Not only nice, but what is normally expected of a sane, rational leadership - not weaponizing violent death and using it for one's own fell purposes. What would be biglier than nice would be if THAT voice and its toxic utterances were no longer part of the American dialogue.

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Teri Gelini's avatar

He has already put Kirk on the back burner as he told a reporter that he doing well when asked how he was with the death of his friend. Then he immediately changed the subject to boast about the new ballroom saying see all those trucks they are starting on the great ballroom everyone has wanted for 150 years...He has no interest in talking about Kirk now that it was not a leftist that killed him

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TJ's avatar

The nutcase that killed Charlie was defending the honor of his troon girlfriend.

Pretty sure only leftists can wrap their heads around that.

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Kathy H's avatar

Why don't you enlighten us with your intimate knowledge? Christ, is the strategy to get people to turn a gun on themselves just so they don't have to hear the stupid any longer? 🤣

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Roberta Houle's avatar

Thanks for the laugh! Badly needed today. 😊

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Kathy H's avatar

Well, 2 pt.s for having a source, TJ, but I am here because I don't read that trash. It was better when it was kept in supermarket tabloids. And, TJ? It's not welcome here. Go crawl back under your rock with your weird little obsessions, the grownups have tolerated this shit long enough. If you ever straighten out your own sexuality & inadequacy issues enough to be civil & show some discernment in what you are repeating, you can try again. Otherwise, go hang out with the other little weirdos in ur club. Did they kick you out or are they being made to wash their underwear? Too bad, because aren't up to being in mixed company. My mistake for acting interested. Now go away.

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Roberta Houle's avatar

Kathy H, Oh I wish I could have said all that so articulately.

Unfortunately my sarcasm sometimes wins out. 😅

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TJ's avatar

Lol. You asked the question, and didn’t like the answer. That’s life Kathy.

And no, I am not going anywhere. I was here before you showed up and I’ll still be here when you slink off to your safe space.

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Roberta Houle's avatar

TJ. Oh ffs. Why would any intelligent person on this site even want to open that file? Did you really think your ‘enlightenment’ would make people sit up and think ‘OMG! I was wrong about all this the whole time. Thank goodness for TJ!!!!!!!’

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TJ's avatar

Not a bit. I expect wack job, leftist whammen like you to open a fresh box of wine and hit the couch with your cats.

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

Liar or a Russian bot trying to stir more division

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Jax's avatar

That’s conjecture at this time, not fact. Plus, if it is true, the girlfriend is not responsible for his actions but the right wants any reason to deflect from the fact he was raised to be a gun toting maga loving trumpf supporter.

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TJ's avatar

He didn’t have a girlfriend. That was part of his problem.

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TJ's avatar

Huh. I wasn’t aware there was a furry/tranny faction within the MAGA movement.

Tell us more about this.

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Nancy's avatar

Don’t blame the leftist we weren’t responsible and I have no idea what a toon is!

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1987ArmyGuy's avatar

This administration is HUNTING the 350K Missing children and trying to return them to their families. Do you want to know the truth: Watch "The Sound of Freedom" This movie was not publicized by Hollywood at all. They refused to cover it. BUT it plays on. It will truly open your eyes to what is really going on

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David Lehnherr's avatar

trump doesn't care about anyone or anything but his own glorification and enrichment, of course. If his administration cared about children they wouldn't take away their food and healthcare benefits, and they'd do something about the gun violence epidemic that kills so many children every year. Regarding The Sound of Freedom...https://screenrant.com/sound-of-freedom-movie-child-trafficking-fact-check/

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

That movie was propaganda bullshit. The man it was lionizing is nothing more than an attention seeker who gets in the way of legitimate people who are working to end the exploitation of children.

This regime has shut down the dept that was investigating sex trafficking, that doesn’t sound like they give a damn about finding children. They also shut down the agency that was keeping track of the more than 20K children stolen from Ukraine by the Russians.

So NO, Trump ain’t doing shit.

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Jax's avatar

Keep telling yourself that. It’s a sound bite to get money nothing more. This administration cares about one thing- themselves!

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Lorene Cangiano's avatar

I am a bit confused. You are saying that this trump admin is trying to find the children they kidnapped to begin with?

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Sylvia Arrowood's avatar

I am aware of what is going on but I don't know if I can watch the movie. It would just tear me apart so much and I would end up crying so hard because I know there is nothing I can do about it. I need to be able to help out in my community, be able to help in my community, help in my church and pray.

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ramona j's avatar

It is based on reality, but not a documentary . There are better sources for the truth of that particular situation ,I am sure. It will upset . Thats the point.

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Sylvia Arrowood's avatar

Totally agree.

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Albert Matsas's avatar

Kirk was a white supremacist, period.

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David Lehnherr's avatar

For starters.

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Steve Doll's avatar

Let's call it for what it is: Christo-Nazi.

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Chris hughes's avatar

Not a Christian because if he was a Christian he would've not been a hateful racist man that he was,

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Roseann Duchon's avatar

A “christofascist” is what Kirk was. Not a true Christian, but a charismatic, deviant, a self-righteous propagandist. He was a provocateur peddling disinformation to youths who are still easily influenced because their frontal cortex is still immature and not fully developed, thus easily malleable. Just like he was. At the age of 18, when he founded Turning Point, I suspect he must have had several years of someone whispering to him in order to have that racism and hatred packaged up into an ideology of polite, engaging hate and propaganda. He preached veiled hatred of “them.” (Immigrants, POC, LGBTQIA+, Women, the poor and marginalized). He was not afraid to engage with those who opposed his views. It’s just too bad he did not learn anything from those spirited engagements to see the error in his thinking. What a waste. Had he been on the correct side and thinking like a true Christian, who knows how far he could have gone and how many more he could have influenced for the good.

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AMY STARKEY's avatar

Those debates were a pure farce after watch a few. They come with questions, and he immediately obfuscates into his planned and prepared rantings. I haven't seen the original question answered in the ones I watched. He's been perfecting this since he was a lost 18-year-old boy that wanted revenge on his classmates. And women. And POC. And the gay community. He speaks nice in churches and spews the vile stuff outside.

Yes, it would have been good if he was really listening instead of preparing his next words. But it was about the game for him. Capture the young. The elders will follow. Now he's being raised on the cross by "them." So much is disappointing about these so-called Christians.

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Renee Goodman's avatar

What about all of the supposed Christians that say the Du,later and his sycophants are doing a great job!!!

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Chris hughes's avatar

MAGA is now a party for

TRAITORS

PERVERTS

PEDOPHILES

AND

RACISTS.

IF YOU SUPPORT MAGA

THIS IS YOU

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Sylvia Arrowood's avatar

Please don't say Christo - true Jesus followers are not like that.

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Brenda Carlson's avatar

Exactly. Which is why he said what he said. Read it again.

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Vivian Fletcher's avatar

Yes he was.

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Sylvia Arrowood's avatar

Please do not say Christo - true Jesus followers are not like this.

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L B Rose's avatar

But apparently not enough of one to satisfy folks like Tyler Robinson.

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Kimberly S.'s avatar

Kirk, Correct!

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1987ArmyGuy's avatar

Your a horrible human being for saying that. How dare you. Why dont you watch Charlies Videos before saying crap like this

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Chris hughes's avatar

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

From Charlie Kirks own hateful racist mouth. How about he was ok for having a 10 year old who was raped, and according to his own words, thinks the 10 year should be forced to have the baby. Let me add,Kirk was a hateful, racist sick human being

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Albert Matsas's avatar

Anyone who is okay with a raped, traumatized CHILD, being forced to carry and birth their rapists baby, is extremely SICK and Deranged!!

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Chris hughes's avatar

I pray he found Jesus before his last breath

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Chris hughes's avatar

Why don't you listen yo what came out of his own foul mouth. Charlie Kirk was a hateful racist to the end. He said he was a Christian but hated a lot. Look up The Guardian, From Charlie Kirjs own mouth. Wait I'll send you the link.

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TJ's avatar

The Guardian is low rent propaganda for especially low IQ leftist orks.

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Chris hughes's avatar

Ok, CULT member, but the fact is Kirk said all these things, it's a fact. They even gave dates this llow IQ, white supremacist, sick individual said these racist, snd sick things. I listened to some of the sick things this clown said, including the comment about a 10 year old forcing a 10 year old to get a abortion.

we hen she was raped by a pedophile

Im sorry Kirk was murdered but I'm also sorry that Kirk was everything I mentioned, it's from his own mouth on video! And that is fact. Stop worshipping sick individuals like TANTRUMP and Kirk. Stop supporting MAGA, THE PARTY OF PERVERTS PEDOPHILES, TRAITORS, and Sick people!

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TJ's avatar

Yes, he said those things, and when the lengthy explanation that preceded or followed them are included, most decent people agree.

It is no surprise that leftists viscerally despise a guy who was telling kids “don’t do drugs, don’t watch porn, get married, have kids and be good parents”.

Especially leftists that tell little kids boys can be girls, and debauchery is normal.

Charlie Kirk was a beam of wholesome energy on college campuses immersed in the liberal death cult.

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

I’ve seen Charlie’s videos; they are despicable racist, misogynistic, homophobic, Islamophobic, trash.

Charlie was a hate monger supported by wealthy oilmen from Texas who used his young, fresh face to spread their Christian Nationalist Evangelical ideology that’s nothing but hate & oppression for anyone who isn’t a white cis-gender male.

He was a horrible person.

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Brenda Carlson's avatar

Or maybe you should see the videos where C.K. DID say those things. We all live in the algorythms the media feeds us. Both can be true. YOU may only be seeing his speeches that reinforce your view of him as a caring Christian family man, while never having been exposed to his darker side. Keep a open mind, as Charlie Kirk wanted.

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Chris hughes's avatar

Why don't you watch Kirk and open your eyes to who he really was!

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ramona j's avatar

The videos are eveywhere! How do you people defend these racists when the proof is so easily attainable. 🙄 its not 1940.you may act like it is ,but Everything is backed by media. He spouted hate, and racism. White supremacy. He paid the price for it.

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Karla J's avatar

We need to stop giving him air. Stop clicking on stories about him, change the channel when it comes on and stop talking about it. Let him truly RIP and be forgotten

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Cat's avatar

It was nice to finally hear some stories about the economy and fed reserve again. Just something other than about this guy that I had barely heard of before his death. They don't go on that long about massive school shootings, ffs.

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Michelle's avatar

I scroll right on past

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Martha Kenne's avatar

Yes! I feel for hs family, but already I have OD'd on all the Kirk exposure.

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Ms. Lee's avatar

Exactly

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Albert Matsas's avatar

He was against the '64 Civil Rights ACT? He thought George Floyd's murderer should be pardoned? WTF???

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Martha Kenne's avatar

And Nancy Pelos's husband's attacker bailed out?? WTF.

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1987ArmyGuy's avatar

After extensive research, Charlie found, that the 64 CRA was what destroyed the american black family. I saw his video on it and agreed. Why dont you do some of your own research before spewing this opinion. NEXT: About George Floyd: While these statements show that Kirk challenged the legitimacy of Chauvin’s conviction, there is no record of him explicitly calling for a presidential pardon or legal exoneration. Do some homework

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Albert Matsas's avatar

I saw Kirk yesterday talking about the knee on the neck was justified bc Floyd's was resisting? Big load of bigot BULLSHIT! Floyd's was prone on the f-ing ground, handcuffed, immobile, choking and calling for his mama. It was Murder!!!

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Maur OBrien's avatar

George Floyd had no pending arrest charges on him that day Police officer Chauvin killed him! They were supposed to question him about his twenty dollar bill being counterfeit. That is why store called cops in first place to question it!

The cops never asked that of Mr Floyd

and it was NOT FOUND TO BE FAKE!!

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Ruth Birch's avatar

No no no resisting at any time. Watch the video!!!!

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ramona j's avatar

How can anyone forget it. Talk about horror. That was a 9 min snuff film. Talk about violence.

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Albert Matsas's avatar

And, YES, he directly said Chauvin should be pardoned! You do your homework!

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olderwoman's avatar

Yeah!

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Madeleine A's avatar

What is it with arrogant white men who think they are the experts on blacks, women, gays. Black people are smart enough to decide what affected their family. Women can decide for themselves whether they should have careers and when they are past their shelf life. Can you imagine a woman saying men are past their prime after 30? Do you ever hear gays going around talking about straight white male's sex life. Would you ever hear a black man say, "When I get on a plane and see a white man as a pilot, I worry."

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olderwoman's avatar

Madeleine-And gays, straight white men are experts on all things gay too.

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NoBumperStickers's avatar

I agree with you 100%!

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

What research, on Facebook?? Charlie applied to West Point but wasn’t accepted. He spent 1 semester in college but was convinced by 2 rich oilmennbrothers from TX to drop out & help them spread their Evangelical Christian Nationalist message. Without their financial backing Charlie would have been a nobody.

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Jax's avatar

Just because you agree with Kirk on 64 CRA doesn’t make it right. In fact, it shows you as being like minded to Kirk who was a racist, misogynist, and white supremest.

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olderwoman's avatar

Jax-and virulently anti gay. In fact that is where Kirk got his start, it was hating on the gays.

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Jax's avatar

I suppose I should be more specific. When I said racist, I meant for it to include the LGBTQ+, all religions non Christian, as well as those of different races.

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Lee Thomas's avatar

Sure, YOU are the expert on black families. 🙄 NEXT

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Debby's avatar

Good advice. Do your own comprehensive research. One subject research is well about one thing.

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Bsienkart's avatar

My problem is: My child’s life should matter just as much as Kirk’s but, apparently, it doesn’t. Do you see anyone talking about gun reform? Or do you see people arguing if they are “right” about him and what happened? I’ll wait.

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1987ArmyGuy's avatar

Charlie Kirk’s opposition to gun control is rooted in a deeply held belief that the Second Amendment is essential to preserving all other freedoms. His stance is not just political—it’s philosophical, and he’s been consistent about it across speeches, interviews, and social media. “There is no First Amendment without a Second Amendment… They put in the Second Amendment to protect us against government tyranny.”

YES: I'm Arguing. So are millions of people around the world.

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Lee Thomas's avatar

It is not against the second amendment to want you to control your damn gun and if you refuse to do so, for the government to step in and do so. We aren't asking for guns to be completely banned, we are asking for literally ANYTHING to be done. But I guess dead children and a dead Kirk is worth it for you to have unfettered access to guns.

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Jax's avatar

Well then it’s a good thing a gun killed him so his view on the second amendment can remain!

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Publia's avatar

Those who live by the sword die by the sword

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ramona j's avatar

And the second amendment ended his life.

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Mary MacBeth's avatar

I don't get why they are calling the murder an assassination. When have you heard that definition used with other persons shot and killed? JFK and his brother, RFK, Martin Luther King, etc., were assassinated. Not some racist, bigot, misogynist, gun loving, hate spewing nationalist. Kirk pushed the 2nd amendment and was on board with it after every school shooting. He really and truly was despicable. I said the same things about him last week and won't be a numpty and fraud and act differently just because he is dead. IT IS HORRIBLE that he was killed this way. No one wants anyone to be taken like that but I am not saddened by his passing. He travelled around the country - and not just the US, spreading his hate and misinformation to young moldable minds. I DID NOT realize that there were factions of his cult in the UK!!

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Connie Larsen's avatar

ALL so true Mary! I’m so effing sick n tired of the orange blob n his treasonous followers! I just don’t understand why supposedly educated people in congress kiss his ass n are trying to eff up our country!! They are supposed to be working for we the people! Who pay them way to much for what they do! We the people need to fight like hell!

202 225 3121 or 202 224 3121

Will reach ANY member of Congress! Give a name n give em hell!

AND no Nobel for the sick orange po💩

https://www.nobelprize.org/contact

Release the Epstein files!

🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷

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Linda M. Walker's avatar

Just a premeditated murder!

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Susan Raquel's avatar

Also Africa !

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Cheryl Thomas's avatar

Look up the definition of assassination. Charlie Kirk's murder does, in fact, meet the definition. Assassination includes the murder of celebrities, as well as political figures, if the murder is politically motivated. Like him or not (and I didn't) Charlie Kirk was a celebrity, and it's clear that his murder was politically motivated.

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

Yes, exactly, it was an assassination.

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Bonnie Boyce's avatar

Brilliant essay! Important takeaway: "in the end, history is crueler than any assassin. It forgets."

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Sandra Greer's avatar

Ozymandias:

"...Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay

Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare

The lone and level sands stretch far away.

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Joan MacLeod's avatar

Trump has already moved on because his tacky new ballroom is more important!

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Karen Ward's avatar

We can’t afford to buy groceries, but the White House can build a ballroom that none of us will actually be invited to. Go figure.

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JA's avatar

Call it what it is - a TRUMP MONUMENT!

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1987ArmyGuy's avatar

The White House Didn't build it. Private donors did. As far as the grocies thing goes, they SHOT WAY UP during the Biden administration. Did you see the chart?

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

Trump & donors are “supposedly” putting up the $200M or more for that ballroom, but I will wait & see if that actually happens. Trump has never paid his contractor bills in his life. We taxpayers will likely get stuck paying for it. Kind of like we are paying ONE BILLION to retrofit that gaudy “free”plane. I’m pissed off. 🤬

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ramona j's avatar

Name these donors you maggats keep referring to. You will believe anything . I guess his salary is helping to. Moronic. He is stealing from Americans. Grifting countries, you supporters , and anyone else stupid enough to either give him money or cave to his BS. He thinks he is hanging around forever. Not happening

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Brenda Carlson's avatar

The whole world had inflation shoot way up after covid shut everything down. First there were supply chain issues, then production issues. Yet of all the countries in the world, the U.S. had the best rebound rates of all. Of course there was also big corporations who saw and used the opportunity to price-gouge at the same time, making things worse. The rate of inflation was coming down before Biden left office. It's going up again due to the current occupant. Read more.

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AMY STARKEY's avatar

Ummmmm Prices under Biden? Because of covid maybe? You've driven this one into the sand. Come back into the present. My grocery bills have gone up $50 for 4 bags. Biden's numbers are a thing of the past. I heard prices might drop soon but will go way back up once the full force of his economic plan goes into action.

Private donors mean pay-for-play. Are we getting to see a list of these donors so we can figure out what they actually bought? Wonder who paid for the slab "garden" with the ugly umbrellas? He really does think he's a king needing a grand ballroom. Will they be waltzing? Also, the outdoor venue to entertain the rich and famous when it's the perfect weather. Just moving Mar A Lago north.

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ramona j's avatar

Yes Amy. Where's the receipts ? Where's the proof. He is such a liar.

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Brenda Carlson's avatar

Also, it's not built, and not one of us will ever see transparency with the invoices if it does get built. Stop already, you aren't doing yourself any favors.

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Roe K💙🆘️🇺🇲's avatar

And yet we continue to hear crickets when it comes to all the children we have lost 💔 😔

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Karen Ward's avatar

POTUS said move on as it related to the children

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1987ArmyGuy's avatar

WHAT: We have a whole GOVT arm dedicated to finding the 350000 children let into our country without sponsors during the last 4 years. Raids are happening all of the time, but the media does not report it. They are up to about 5% of the 350K found. They were in basements used for labor and sex

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Patricia Reed's avatar

Your source, please.

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olderwoman's avatar

ArmyGuy, you are in really really deep.

I pity you.

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Brenda Carlson's avatar

As another older woman, I agree with you. Or it's a pot stirring bot.

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ramona j's avatar

He's an endless propaganda machine, army guy for Fox talking points

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Protect the Vote's avatar

Kirk's Memory Will Fade Away As Did Germany's Nazi Party

"Shock value" in political circles aroused by crazy ass statements to which Kirk espoused were meant to trigger and incite young people on college campuses And he found an audience which is why he kept coming back to them And with unsophisticated discriminatory skills these malleable students were sitting ducks for his radical right leaning agenda

Think about it Kirk's mission was to radicalize a malleable population who would follow the Nazis down memory lane of Germany in the 1930's And today's Nazi party supported him

Truth matters and when all is said and done the 21st century version of the Nazi party will fade WE the People must continue to put the truth out there day in and day out

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Connie Larsen's avatar

And couch cougar, musky are lil Nazi lovers too!🤬🤬🤬

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1987ArmyGuy's avatar

You are a very sick person. You dont have facts, you have a narrative.

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Protect the Vote's avatar

You yourself are ignoring the facts and those facts make the above narrative

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

And you are just another wealthy, white, male, who thinks he’s entitled to everything. Don’t give us that shit about groceries shot up under Biden story. We know inflation got bad under Covid & as we tried to recover from it.

The problem now is that dumpy promised to bring down prices on Day One, he’d end all the wars on Day One, everything was gonna be great. He’s nothing more than an uneducated blowhard, conman, liar. The blanket tariffs on whole countries instead of targeted tariffs on specific items are just dumb, & the ARE causing inflation. Farmers who have lost market share for their products (due to his tariffs) are going bankrupt, losing family farms & dumpy doesn’t gaf. IF he does decide to care, he’ll just borrow more money to pile onto our national debt so he can give them a bailout.

It’s total bullshit.

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ramona j's avatar

Bravo PJ. 👏 👏 👏 👏

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ramona j's avatar

You need a mirror Army Guy . This way the voices in your head have someone to talk to.

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PeMi+7's avatar

Yet this country is in the midst of the "saintification" of the spreader of hate.

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Joan Edelstein's avatar

I'm hoping you're right. His wife has committed to continuing the work and his legacy.

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Lisa Williams's avatar

But- she is a women. Though Charlie didn't want women to have a profession!!

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Linda M. Walker's avatar

Submission! That's bs.

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Lisa Williams's avatar

*thought

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s. Mic Michenfelder's avatar

Or vote or think or work or do anything but make more babies. Don't know about the rest of the women out there, but I bring much more than that to the table - and it ain't dinner!

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debra's avatar

Continuing his legacy: raking in more $$$$$$$$$$$.

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JOHN SMITH's avatar

Turning point made a right turn. He was not right enough.

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Linda M. Walker's avatar

She's much more conservative and has backing from Turning Point.

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Ellen McKenzie's avatar

Too bad.

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Janet's avatar

His wife said his mission will continue. With vitriol, she said you don’t know what you have unleashed.

I have one Biblical suggestion: forgiveness.

It is healing for all.

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Candace Lucas's avatar

And while everyone is losing their shit over a white supremacist, masogynistic jerk, three children were shot and hardly a ripple. Disgusting

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Linda M. Walker's avatar

100 school shootings this year!

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john marengo's avatar

STOP CALLING IT AN ASSASSINATION.

Assassination is when it's a politician

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Larry Eagle's avatar

''a person who murders an important person for political or religious reasons."

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Karen Ward's avatar

That’s a good definition, which precludes him because he wasn’t an important person

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Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

Martin Luther King was murdered, he was not assassinated. Only those who hold office or is a head of state can be assassinated.

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Cheryl Thomas's avatar

That is absolutely not true. For your edification, from Collinsdictionary.com: "assassination

1. the act of deliberately killing someone, esp a public figure, for political or religious reasons

2. the act of destroying or damaging something, such as a person's reputation, through malicious actions or slander"

Numerous other sources say much the same thing, although the wording varies. Martin Luther King and Charlie Kirk were both public figures. Their murders were clearly due to religious and/or political beliefs. Therefore, they were, in fact, assassinated.

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john marengo's avatar

I guess it's the degree someone is considered a public figure. The rightwing is makiing Kirk out to be more than he was. He wasn't that important, not anymore than other media mouthpieces. That's all he was. I noticed the rightwing didn't use assassination about Senator Hortman. Also we don't know yet what the reasons for the shooting, we're guessing political or religious.

For me, the bottom line is whatever is real definition I don't care. The rightwing uses certain words intentionally to strengthen or weaken a person. The Left needs to start playing in the same field. Don't use the term for KIrk, which makes him more important. He was no MLK. And the Left should stop saying how horrific it was. When it's a democrat, or mass shooting, it doesn't say horrific, or any wording that makes it bad. Just something that happened. Need to start playing the game

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Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

For my edification? When Martin Luther King was killed, it was still called "murdered." With Robert F Kennedy was assassinated it was because he was Senator Robert F Kennedy. Same time period, except the distinction was one was an elected official, the other was not. I guess now anyone who has been mentioned in any form of communication is assassinated. Good to know - an undereducated rabble rouser with a following is now considered worthy of the designation "assassinated." Consider me edified.

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Cheryl Thomas's avatar

You seem pretty worked up about a simple word definition having been clarified.

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Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

Let's put it this way. Starting a response using terms like "absolutely" is just a bit off putting. It's a bit more user friendly by starting with .....oh say "this it the definition I found." Just a small thing......never quite thought of substack as a debating society...

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john marengo's avatar

for one, kirk wasn't an important person. Secondly, it's not about the reason they were killed, it's who it is

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AMY STARKEY's avatar

Why are we getting caught up in words? This is a red thing they do all the time. Call it what ever you want. It doesn't matter. Wasn't John Lennon assassinated? It doesn't mean the person is a good guy using that term. Just means they were a well-known person. He was an international figure sadly. 110K marched in the UK for anti-immigration and they threw in Kirk because of the timing. Again suspicious.

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Linda M. Walker's avatar

Too bad people got fired from their jobs for voicing their opinion.

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Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

This is so infuriating. The comments I've read that got people fired are all rational observations on what happened. They don't celebrate the man's death in any way. It smacks of the "obeying in advance" that we've seen so much of lately.

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Elaine Lueras's avatar

Freedom of speech for ME but not for THEE ...typical of these hypocritical, soul-less Republikkkans and the MAGGAT Brigade

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olderwoman's avatar

They will be vindicated.

The ACLU will take up their cause and fight for them.

While it hurts now, long term they will get paid out.

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Kathy H's avatar

That's good to hear, but I think we're gonna need a bigger boat. And, a lot of ongoing work to keep this from being done again. We need to strengthen organizations like the ACLU.

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Janet's avatar

Free speech as long as the speech is what the right approves.

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Leslie Marcyoniak's avatar

Am I sorry that he was killed in front of his children? Yes. Am I sorry that he’s not here anymore? No. He was a disgusting human being. His ideology was cruelty and division. He was a horrible, horrible person. How does someone get to that point where they are so far removed from reality? So much hate? I’ll never understand..

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