Did You See Our Chat with MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace?!

On her hit new podcast, MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace sat down with the three of us for an unfiltered, wide-ranging conversation about media, democracy, and the fight ahead.

By Ben Meiselas

Hi Meidas Mighty. We just joined Nicolle Wallace on her brilliant new podcast, The Best People and I’m so excited to share it with you if you haven’t seen or heard it yet. From deep dives into the state of traditional and new media, to the rise of regime propaganda, and how we built MeidasTouch from the ground up—this was one of my favorite interviews we’ve done.

Nicolle is not only one of the sharpest minds in media, she’s a fighter for truth and democracy. And she sees what we see: the danger of a gaslit public, the way platforms like Fox News and Elon Musk’s X manipulate fear and normalize extremism, and the urgency of staying loud, unapologetic, and connected to real people. As I told Nicolle, Fox isn't just biased—it's the propaganda arm of an authoritarian movement, masquerading as news. If we don’t call that out every single day and push back, we lose the country.

We got personal too—about growing MeidasTouch as brothers, our roots, our motivations, and our relentless focus on values over politicians. People are tired of hedge-speak. They want to know: Are you with me, or not? That’s our north star. And that’s what drives every video, every podcast, every article we put out.

This conversation is a must-watch (or listen). It’s real. It’s raw. And it’s a reminder: if you're sick of the lies, sick of the cowardice, and sick of the silence, you are not alone.

👇 Watch the full episode here:

Or listen to The Best People with Nicolle Wallace wherever you get your podcasts, like Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

We’re building something bigger than politics. A pro-democracy movement fueled by community, truth, and action. And we’re just getting started.

Enjoy the interview and let us know your thoughts in the comments!