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I'm joined by California Governor Gavin Newsom. Governor, I want to get your reaction to these two federal court orders invalidating Trump's tariffs against the world. Yesterday, the U.S. Court of International Trade granted summary judgment against Donald Trump earlier today. Judge Contreras blocked Trump's tariffs as unlawful. Your reaction, Governor?
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Well, I mean, it's raining tacos today. I mean, it's not a good day for Donald Trump and his central economic program. These tariffs, which we've said from day one, California, as you know, is on your show and privilege of sharing with you and your viewers. We were the first state to introduce a lawsuit under the International Economic
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Emergency Powers Act and and Basically, the judgment said exactly what we said in our brief. And so we're very, very pleased at this moment, this brief moment, that these tariffs have been thrown out. But the reality is the federal administration, at least the Trump administration, is now moving to get a stay in federal courts.

Governor Gavin Newsom Taunts Trump in Exclusive Meidas Interview

“It’s raining tacos today.”

By Ben Meiselas

When a federal court blocks Trump’s illegal economic power grab twice in two days, it’s worth taking a moment. So I brought in a special guest to help break it all down: California Governor Gavin Newsom.

From the top, Governor Newsom said it best: “It’s raining tacos today.” And by tacos, yes, we mean Trump Always Chickens Out. These rulings—one from the U.S. Court of International Trade and another from Judge Contreras—didn’t just invalidate Trump’s reckless tariffs. They ripped the mask off his so-called “economic policy” and exposed it for what it really is: performative chaos that’s been devastating working families, small businesses, and our ports.

In our conversation, Governor Newsom reminded us that California was the first to sue Trump over these unlawful tariffs—and now the courts are saying exactly what was in their brief from day one. Families in California and across the country have felt the real cost of Trump’s ego-driven trade war: canceled shipments, layoffs, business closures, and even parents losing their homes.


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But here’s what should infuriate every American: Republican lawmakers know these tariffs are garbage. They hate them. Yet they say nothing. Total silence. Shameful complicity. The same Republicans who claim to be “pro-business” stood by as Trump torched supply chains and spiked prices on American families—all for a headline.

And now, Trump is melting down again. The markets are betting against him. The courts are striking him down. He’s lashing out at the Federal Reserve. And instead of admitting failure, he doubles down on stupid—just like Newsom said. That’s why the Financial Times coined the term “TACO trade”—because analysts know Trump always caves, and they’re making billions off his volatility.

Governor Newsom also dropped this truth bomb: the GOP’s disastrous budget was built on phantom tariff revenue that no longer exists if these court decisions are upheld. That means the only way they can make the math work is by gutting Medicaid, slashing SNAP, and screwing over millions of working Americans. As Newsom put it, “They’re balancing the budget on the backs of the most vulnerable.”

Bottom line: the fight isn’t over. But even with the administrative stay, these are major wins—for the Constitution, for small businesses, for families, and for sanity. And we’ll keep holding the line.

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Let’s keep showing up. Let’s keep pushing back. Let’s keep shouting from the rooftops: Donald Trump is a TACO.

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Cathy Lawson's avatar

Newsom needs to pick a side and stay there.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

He's a democrat. But he's had to work with the Trump administration because CA had historically devastating fires that cost billions right when Trump started his presidency.

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JoeZeesMom's avatar

I don’t anticipate orange thug helping CA w/o court order. He’s such a petty, vindictive creep.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

He did. Newsom was able to get FEMA funding for displaced residents

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dana's avatar

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Patrice Mobley's avatar

Actually a bully and a coward crowded in that same disgusting smelly body of his.

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MrsCQ's avatar

The problem wasn't only what he said, it was that he had white nationalists on his podcast and came across as pandering to them. I think it backfired and that's the price he paid, is continuing to pay and the price he is making all of us pay. I am a die hard Democrat but even I find myself tuning him out. That is not to say, I won't vote for Democrats. So, instead of belittling those that are angry with Newsom, why not instead acknowledge he messed up "bigly" and then, maybe, we can move on? But to defend him without acknowledging what he did was offensive, is not helpful.

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Rose Cassie's avatar

I will NEVER vote for a criminal violent insurrection leader - rich radical Republicans corruption is reaching epic level!🏴‍☠️

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Michael's avatar

So he had Nazis on his podcast to help fight fires? He endorsed Trump's "movie tariffs" to fight fires?

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Jax's avatar

Newsome is not the white supremest Nazi, all of magats are and they’re killing our country at an unprecedented rate!

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MrsCQ's avatar

No. But he sure had them on his podcast. THAT is what is offensive along with his comments. Please stop making it as if Newsom was somehow justified in having Charlie Kirk and Bannon on his podcast. It's not as if those racists don't have a platform of their own to spread their racist and right wing ideology. They loved that Newson had them on. Did Newsom score any points with them? No and more importantly, WHY would he want to?

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Oaktown's avatar

He was trying to impress his teen-aged son, who idolizes Charlie Kirk.

He also vetoed regulating AGI in SB1046 and appears to be all in with promoting crypto. The Dems can do so much better in choosing a presidential nominee.

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MrsCQ's avatar

I did not know about Newsom appearing to promote crypto. I really do not think Newsom wins the presidential nomination. Long time in political years until then, but I really do doubt it.

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Oaktown's avatar

I just wrote to him and asked how much money he's taken from crypto lobbyists, but I doubt he'll answer me. I've asked Padilla and Schiff the same question: crickets.

I do know when Katie Porter ran against Schiff she refused to take money from them and advocated to regulate crypto, so they spent MILLIONS on relentless campaign ads against her.

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MrsCQ's avatar

You might get a response from Newsom's office. Thanking you for your email. Then, 20 minutes later, you will get an email asking for a donation. To be fair Newson is not alone in this. I wish they would stop with all the relentless donation requests.

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Oaktown's avatar

Yes, I've had the experience, so now I preface all my letters with this: First, you do not have my permission to send me emails soliciting donations, only to reply to my specific questions. We'll see what happens, but I'm not hopeful.

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MrsCQ's avatar

Excellent. Good luck.

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Jax's avatar

What about the millions trumpf has grifted off of not only crypto but the stock market by insider trading? Newsom isn’t perfect, but he’s a hell of a lot better than the orange cult leader in the WH!

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Oaktown's avatar

Of course he's better than Cheeto!! I was talking about his fitness to be my choice of a Dem candidate to run in 2028. I think there are more promising contenders than Newsom, but if it came down to Newsom or the MAGA party I would mos def vote blue.

Update: Surprise, surprise! I've not received a response to my questions from him.

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Jax's avatar

Ok so what about the legions of white supremests that have met, ate with, devised and carried out a coup, all for trumpf and continue to work behind the scenes for him? Having a conversation with someone is far different than being in bed with them!

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MrsCQ's avatar

We can agree to disagree about Newsom. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and feelings about Newsom. I don't think anyone has said he was in bed with white supremacists - he just gave them yet another platform. I, for one, don't want to speak to any white nationalists or MAGAs. It's hard enough to have them in my family, friends and community. Believe me, they have no problem expressing their feelings and "cultural grievances". I was a Newsom supporter but having them on his show was just too much for me. I respect those that can look the other way, I cannot and frankly don't want to look the other way.

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Jamie Hamilton's avatar

Love Newsom! I always voted for him when I lived in CA and will definitely vote for him for president if he decides to run !!!!!

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Jane in NC's avatar

Utter nonsense. Our governor here in NC, Josh Stein, is a Democrat who has worked with the administration to secure funding for damage from Hurricane Helene without starting a podcast boosting white nationalists. And FTR, even red states are having the fight the administration for FEMA funding, which has been cut off since Trump took office. You're making excuses for Newsom's inexcusable behavior.

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Ellen McKenzie's avatar

The reason we have so much division is because everyone is told we have to pick a side. The next step is to demonize the other side. It’s a slippery slope. I personally appreciate those who can see some value in acknowledging that no side has all the answers. Our problems are complex and require thoughtful solutions. Do I necessarily agree with Newsom on his positions? No.

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Alison's avatar

Governing doesn't work that way, Cathy. In -the -gutter republicans seem to think it does and look at how crooked and inept and cruel their "side" has become!

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Mark Hawley's avatar

then he'd be a thoughtless trumper

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Christy B.'s avatar

Man, you can day that again!

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Gavin Newsom can suck eggs for all I care . . . he threw Trans athletes under the bus!

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

I’m sorry he disappointed you but he speaks the truth and we need more to speak truth to Trump and the Republicans

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Exactly. Trans people are the hill people on the left will die on but they are less than 1% of the population....

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DMC's avatar

Jewish people were less than one percent of the German population before Hitler was made führer, and he made them almost nonexistant. Does that not matter because they were a small minority? Please explain your logic.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Also I say this as. Jewish person who had lots of family members die in WW2. There are way worse issues going on right now, more similar to what happened in Nazi Germany, than Trans in sports for a few years. Sorry.

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Patricia Masterson's avatar

We all must take a deep look into the “Grander Scheme of Things.” Share the love around the World, think Higher Intelligence rather than only one’s own way of thinking for the future of mankind…

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Yeah if they were being sent to El Salvador like those innocent men or put in concentration camps, that would be one thing. But playing sports for a few years? It's just not the hill Im willing to die on. It's almost like bait for the republican party so they can laugh at the left 's outrage and division.

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Melisa's avatar

It’s obvious that “sticking it to the libs” and laughing at their" pearl clutching" is the point.

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Yuvneas's avatar

Abandon your allies and soon you won’t have any left.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

I think there are more important issues than some people not playing sports for a few years. Like all the LEGAL immigrants being dissappeared by ICE and tarrifs decimating our economy. Pick your battles.

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Yuvneas's avatar

“I think there’s more important battles than someone using a different water fountain for a few years.” - you

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Ah yes, here comes the judgemental far left that spits hate as much as the right. This is why Trump is in office, people can't stand this.

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Yankee's avatar

Beware trolls on the trans issue. This is the only issue that the so-called "Republicans" used in many MAGA red districts in 2024 because it tested so well. It affects almost no one in IRL, but is incredibly polarizing. Like so many MAGA issues, it is a dog whistle for their agenda to impose apartheid and second class citizenship on women, which is threatened by any blurring of gender roles. Same reason they hate drag. Best to not give it oxygen and be prepared to see endless ads about trans kids in sports and bathrooms again in the midterms. As difficult as it is, Democrats and Independents have to stop shooting at each other, and focus on winning elections, or trans people could all end up in private concentration camps in Texas, where, incidentally, prisoners are dehydrated, underfed, and at constant risk of heat stroke. Who knows how many prisoners are being trafficked with no accountability. One thing we do know is that MAGA is filled with sexual predators.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Also Gavin Newsom has done more for minorities than most states. Under Newsom, CA has free Healthcare for undocumented immigrants last year (budget can't support it now so it may cost $100/month now), laws that don't allow state/local law enforcement to cooperate with ICE, and also they can access state financial aid for school. CA tax payers are paying 50M to protect the undocumented against Trump this year, he wrote in the budget.

He also made it much for affordable for parents to take parental leave, in CA we get 70-90% of our salary during leave.

He is also not a complete chicken shit and speaks up against Trump. These tarrifs are really hurting CA (my state by the way)

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for nearly 15-years. While I applauded much of what Newsom did, he never came off as authentic. My take on him was that he is a political chameleon.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

If Newsom is so good why does he need to throw Transgender people under the bus? If he’s so good, why isn’t he running on that rather than consorting with the likes of Bannon and Kirk? If his message is that good he ought not need to stoop to culture war negativity to win.

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Alison's avatar

You are falling for right wing manipulation. They loved that three or four words and spread it all over social media. In context he said he felt it was unfair for men to compete against women, as it is. That does not mean that he will support discrimination against trans gender people. Obama did not agree with abortion, nor did President Biden but they supported women to make their own decisions. That is what good (Democratic) leaders do.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

No not at all . . . if anyone has fallen for the ploy it is Newsom and his followers. One way you can tell is his shift to the right and appearance on Charlie Kirk's podcast. Newsom is the one who voiced the words and in so doing threw Transgender athletes under the bus. As I mentioned earlier, from my 15-years living in California including when he performed Same Sex Marriages, my take on him is he will do/say whatever he thinks will get him elected. He may be your friend today, but will he be next week, next month, next year? He is a chameleon

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Oaktown's avatar

I agree with you on everything but one issue: It is NOT fair to women athletes who want to compete in the Olympics or other high level sports competitions to have to compete with transgender women, who have a native biological advantage over cisgender women.

There must be other options for transgender women besides competing with cisgender women, i.e., compete against other transgender women.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Actually it’s the transgender athlete who is disadvantaged in most cases. Plus if it is a transgender athlete who transitioned early (pre puberty), on puberty blockers there is no advantage. I transitioned in my 30s when I my best mile time was 5:00/mi . . . 2-years post transition the best I could manage was 6:30/mi. With the male hormones gone any advantage I might have had was gone . . . plus I was hauling around heavier bone structure that developed because of the male hormones. It is not as simple as you think.

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Oaktown's avatar

Never said it was simple, but do you see any trans men competing successfully in competitive men's sports? Is it possible those two years alone caused a loss of speed simply because you were older?

All I said is there must be "other options"; I'll leave it to the sports community—with input from cis and trans women alike—to figure out how to make it fair, but in some cases it is clearly NOT fair to cis women.

I also have concerns about transitioning pre puberty; that's a huge decision for a young and inexperienced person to make and I know two people who did it and later regretted the decision. In the end, it's a very nuanced, personal and complicated issue, but this is much is not: every law abiding person deserves respect and equal civil rights.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

wry smile . . . that doesn’t invalidate the concerns or what qualities we ought to be looking at.

If we continuously pander to the least controversial position in order to get elected . . . with the oft forgotten promise to fix it all once elected we will never move forward.

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Oaktown's avatar

Not Katie Porter!!!

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

Wow! This point sure did play itself out in Cali this past week, huh?? Very well said!

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Beth Witrogen's avatar

Mine too, here in NorCal.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Not saying that but I will take him any day over a Republican. That's the problem with the left, we're so divided within our own party. Everyone needs to be perfect. Meanwhile the GOP worships Trump like a god and he can say whatever he wants. No wonder he keeps winning....

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Connie Larsen's avatar

taco trump n his collection of treasonous, grifting, greedy, corrupt cabinet, advisors, administration are the real culprits. Why those that don’t agree with him are so afraid to speak up! WTH!

202 225 3121 will get any member of congress. The senate needs to completely redo n overhaul that Big bad bill! Unbelievable that Joni Ernst said “every body has to die sometime”. WTH !

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Johnelle's avatar

Yes you literally are.

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Connie Larsen's avatar

Such a small percentage! When there are grifters, greedy, corrupt, people I. Congress, cabinet, administration, advisors! And biggest of all is trump the taco person!

202 225 3121. Call any member of congress! They need to hear from us!

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hdc23's avatar

It's about human rights everyone's human rights in this country. Not just the people that voted for trump.

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Dee Joy's avatar

First they come for womens' reproductive rights then trans people, then immigrants, who is next??

A democratic society protects ALL vulnerable people disregarding their percentage in society. They come for one of us, they come for all of us.

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

But that needs to be the message… ALL!! Divided, we’ll never win.

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

I’m a minority and my son is gay… so no, absolutely not! Every person deserves to be protected. However, even as a black woman, I realize that sometimes my battle is not the entire war. And sometimes, we have to deal with the smaller battles later. The bigger picture has to be considered and taken into account. Now the Republican leadership is smarter than we’re giving them credit for… they’re distracting the Democrats with the smaller battles as they whoop our asses on the bigger issues. Trans people will not become extinct… they’ve always existed through history and yes they deserve all of their rights… but honestly, I’m less concerned about their rights to “play sports” when the government is literally voting to take food out of the mouths of children. So yes, I’ll support Newsom because he’s at least trying to do the right thing in this issue! No politician will ever be perfect… but can still be effective. Cali is in a much better place than most states.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

That’s just it . . . It is the war . . . It is the piece the G.O.P. extremists have decided to attack because we (trans folk) are the vulnerable minority . . . the part they (rightly) figure will get thrown under the bus. We have to remember the union cry . . . An Injury to One is an injury to All

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

I’m sorry. That sucks that you’ve experienced that. I, too, feel under valued as a woman who is Black. But we don’t get ahead as a group by disparaging those who are supposed to be our allies… and as Democrats, we should be each other’s allies. So did you start this exchange to hone our message or just to express your disappointment with Newsom… because we elected him (as a state) and that’s valid. But we, the Democratic Party, need to hone the message that ALL people should have their rights. MAGA made up the statistics of Trans athletes to enrage bigots and it worked. And Democrats jumped on the bandwagon leaving much bigger issues that affect more of our country and population unaddressed. That’s what I mean by sleight of hand and a distraction. But you are absolutely valid in your feelings because it’s your experience. I pray that as times change, people will be less bigoted.

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

No, that’s not the war… it’s the distraction! While we’re arguing that point, the relationships like what someone just posted about Newsom’s antics don’t come to light because we’re focus on the trans rights over here and our children and elderly are being left out in the cold over there. It’s sleight of hand and we’re falling for it hook line and sinker. Do I hate what our trans community experiences? Absolutely! But we all collectively need to focus on the issues that affect us all… and I would say that our children and our elders are the most vulnerable… would you not agree?

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Hey . . . consider who you’re talking to . . . I’m a transgender woman 34-years post GCS/SRS and am in my 70th year on this planet. I know who is attacking me and why. It is because our Seniors, our members of the LGBTQ community, our people of color are all vulnerable. The G.O.P. strategy is to split off groups. It isn’t a distraction if we stand up and fight for our ideals and fight for the WHOLE group of us. The minute we let them shave bits of us off we’re on the slippery slope to losing.

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

You’re correct… we all need to stand together and fight! I never said don’t fight… but we have to stay focused on the entire situation because it’s critical. But you’re correct… even now, here in this space, we’re spending a lot of time disagreeing… that’s the distraction… the divide… and in that case, you’re right… they are winning!

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

It isn’t a distraction if it helps us hone a message or strategy. If it helps us to avoid the trap of throwing the vulnerable under the bus.

We’re arguing here because some, consciously or not, do not ascribe the same value to Transgender people as they do to Cis folk. We’re arguing because I’m apparently of lesser value than a non trans person . . . that my existence as a trans person somehow threatens Yours? I’ve been active fighting for all kinds of rights that do not directly affect me, but I fought for them. I didn’t toss them under the bus, just because.

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

I’m sorry. That sucks that you’ve experienced that. I, too, feel under valued as a woman who is Black. But we don’t get ahead as a group by disparaging those who are supposed to be our allies… and as Democrats, we should be each other’s allies. So did you start this exchange to hone our message or just to express your disappointment with Newsom… because we elected him (as a state) and that’s valid. But we, the Democratic Party, need to hone the message that ALL people should have their rights. MAGA made up the statistics of Trans athletes to enrage bigots and it worked. And Democrats jumped on the bandwagon leaving much bigger issues that affect more of our country and population unaddressed. That’s what I mean by sleight of hand and a distraction. But you are absolutely valid in your feelings because it’s your experience. I pray that as times change, people will be less bigoted.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Since Newsom is term limited in California, his aspirations are now National. It would seem to me that he needs to reach out to and represent the greatest number of people without cutting anyone out, or disparaging them as he did Transgender athletes. By doing what he did on Charlie Kirk’s podcast is attempt to attract the kind of voters Kirk’s podcast appeals to by putting down transgender athletes. I submit he felt he could gain more voters whilst losing some in the LGBTQ community. We need candidates who like Jasmine Crockett and Maxwell Frost stand up for all their constituents.

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

Girl, Newsom is being a politician! Did you expect different? I’m not at all surprised. And I’d never vote for him on a National level. But I hear you.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

No of course not . . . but if we don’t talk about what makes him a bad candidate (for us) and share that, we are just one voice crying into the wind. But when we share and discuss our concerns, others can take our information and use that when deciding which candidate(s) they’re going to vote for. What we’re doing here is akin to the old door-to-door, talk to your neighbor, kind of consciousness raising.

If we don’t talk about it with one another and others then it will be very hard to build a groundswell behind any candidate. Obama’s first campaign for President was successful because of the grassroots approach.

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Oaktown's avatar

I absolutely would defend the civil rights of every person regardless of trans, cis, or other. But I do not think it's fair for trans women to compete with cis women in competitive sports.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

You call it a distraction, I call it "divide and conquer" Together we're stronger.

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Karen Valerio's avatar

So well stated!

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Connie Larsen's avatar

So is my state. Great governor!

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

It’s not about being divided. It is about being unwilling to stand up for the less visible and less popular for the sake of winning. The political left hasn’t a clue about fighting for all its members.

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Dennis Doherty's avatar

As unfortunate as Newsom statement regarding the VERY FEW trans athletes....is it wise, politically to die on that hill? The outrage that has been the MO of the GOP, regarding issues that have perceived substance, directly affecting the public dialogue that consequential to less than a microscopic rounding error. Not that the need of these athletes are not temporarily important to them and the other athletes that use this issue as a wedge issue. The issue lacks the gravitas when compared to the larger issues that can/do/will affect not only these trans athletes, but an overwhelming number of US citizens. If Newsom, or any other candidate/s are to take back this country, nay the world, back from the forced that have and will put these same trans athletes in much greater danger, but the world as a peaceful entity.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Every politician on the left needs to be perfect and inclusive of everyone (except conservatives of course, or anyone the left doesn't like) and say the right thing all the time and not offend anyone, ever, otherwise people don't vote out of protest and the GOP wins (again). This is exactly how Trump has been president, twice.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Gavin Newsom has been adjusting his message from the beginning of his career. He goes with whatever is expedient rather than what is the right thing to do. He is the political equivalent of “obeying in advance.” If we continually give ground we soon won’t have any ground to give or exist upon.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Do you know how much CA paid in lawsuits against Trump in his first term? $41 Million. Do you know how much CA taxpayers are paying in 2025 to protect our state against the clown in the white house? $50M. No other state has spent more money in legal action against Trump, it benefits the entire country.

But yeah, trans athletes.

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Connie Larsen's avatar

Leave them alone! They are human, eat, sleep, breathe! Go after the lieing , cheating, corrupt politicians in congress!

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Look at where the money goes and that will tell you where people's interests lie.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

How is that relevant to throwing Transgender athletes under the bus?? Yes all that happened, but that is not a logical of sufficient reason to abandon a minority group. What it says to me is that his accomplishments are sooo weak that he needs to throw vulnerable people on the trash heap. That he needs to resort to the G.O.P. culture war and abandon people. Where is the Gavin Newsom who went ahead and married gays and lesbians even when it wasn’t legal?

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DMC's avatar

I see the same Newsom you see. People here are mentioning only Newsom turning on transgender people. He also launched his podcast to court and befriend the likes of Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk is a proud racist and homophobe, and Bannon was imprisoned in contempt of Congress for refusing to testify about the January 6 coup attempt. Trump gets elected and Newsom decides it would be politically expedient to befriend Trump's friends and to change his tune, then, about transgender people's rights, and now he is on a crusade to make it an arrestable crime in California to be homeless. This is crazy to me. And the Democratic party just keeps pushing, pushing, pushing him on us, even as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Pete Buttigieg and others are legitimately popular among progressive people. It's very disappointing. The man is not suited to be president just because he looks like a game show host and has no obvious moral convictions.

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Alison's avatar

And it was overly emotional "progressives" creating their own fictional scenarios and personal grudges based on their emotion and not facts are the reason we lost our last election. Thanks.

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DMC's avatar

Allison/Karen, I am gay. Being gay and seeing LGBT people purged from government documents, and then from medical research and clinical practice guidelines, because of a fascist executive order is an emotional experience. You are fortunate that you get to sway between conservatism and liberalism without any emotional engagement. Many of us are under attack by our own government. That's pretty terrifying. If you can't relate and would like to, then I suggest reading about 1930s Germany.

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Alison's avatar

You don't know me. You don't know my family. You don't know how much I know about the Third Reich. We are all entitled to our emotions but when we vote we need to do so with logic and knowledge. We have a fascist government now due to too many on the left not voting because of their conscience or their personal emotions.

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Oaktown's avatar

Though it's true some voters focus only on one issue rather than choosing the lesser of evils, I think you're oversimplifying this. Remember the influence of Musk camping out in swing states and pouring his unlimited funds into buying votes and spreading lies on X, Facebook's promotion of lies and propaganda after meeting with the Orange menace, Russia's contributions to social media conspiracy theories and lies, micro targeted propaganda spread on these platforms and aimed directly at young men and other "unlikely voters" who idolized Musk, and rampant voter suppression.

The Dems also made a huge mistake in not reaching out to the millions of poor voters who don't vote because candidates never bother to talk with them. Ask Rev. William Barber about that if you don't believe me.

The sooner we acknowledge that MOST voters do not vote based on logic and knowledge the better we can plan more effective campaign strategies. Watch interviews of Cheeto voters to see how their choices are devoid of logic or knowledge; it's the sad truth, but it can't be ignored.

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Alison's avatar

I am over simplifying but only to focus on one point in a complex subject. Everything you say is also true. I will reserve opinion on Rev. Barber because I know little about him. However, don't people like Barber have a platform to spread knowledge to poor people? I'm a little uncomfortable when you refer to campaign strategies that ignore logic and knowledge. How else to get through to a populace immersed in biased news and nothing else 24/7? A candidate cannot speak to every person or solve every problem in our country.

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Oaktown's avatar

I agree with your "one point," but think it's important to consider all factors that contributed to losing the election.

Rev. William Barber has been resurrecting MLK, Jr.'s Poor People's Campaign for years. Yes, he has a platform, but gets very little media coverage. Example: on June 30, 2024 "thousands of poor and low-wage workers and their supporters from religious, labor, and social justice organizations rallied in Washington, D.C. on Saturday and pledged to 'break the silence about poverty' and mobilize 15 million poor and low-income voters ahead of the November 2024 election," yet there was zero news coverage of this well attended event; the poor involved in Barber's campaign have told him they don't vote because no candidate ever talks to them or campaigns in their neighborhoods. (https://www.commondreams.org/news/poor-peoples-campaign-voters).

I also agree we shouldn't completely ignore logic and knowledge, but there are many studies showing those two things do little to change most people's minds compared with emotions. That's the disturbing reality we are facing. Absolutely true that no one candidate can speak to every problem or satisfy a voter's every wish; unfortunately, many voters ignore that hard truth and end up stubbornly refusing to vote for the best choice available, (i.e., the MI voters who didn't like Biden's policy on Gaza, bought Cheeto's micro-targeted lies, and voted for the Orange menace, the worst possible candidate for their concerns). For such people, appealing directly to their emotions is more effective.

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Alison's avatar

Sadly, the appeal to emotions was effective. Harris reached out to that population but their community leaders played the emotion card. They were hoodwinked. They f'ed around and found out.

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Oaktown's avatar

Agree! Reminds me of what the DNC did when Hillary was chosen as the next nominee after she lost to Obama but before the primary voters even weighed in. The DNC undermined Bernie's small donor campaign in spite of the fact he was drawing huge crowds over Hillary.

How about a governor like Wes Moore or others who have a proven track record of getting practical things done for their state that the majority of people want and need?

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Purobi Phillips's avatar

There will be primaries and we can all vote. No one can push anyone after the voters take part in the primaries. Trans kids not being able to play for a couple of years do not mean they are being thrown under the bus.

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Tara Jeane's avatar

YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT! The sports issue with Trans people is the foot in the door that bigots use to push their agenda of erasing Trans people from existence! Look at ANY state that has adopted a Trans sports ban. Do they stop there? No! They do not. They're using it as a way in so they can implement further hateful policies with the eventual eradication of Trans people. Next up, the rest of the LGBT+ spectrum.

If you give an inch to a fascist, they won't just take that inch. They'll take everything! You're not looking at the big picture. If this issue doesn't affect you, well that's awesome for you, but eventually, they'll come after something you do care about!

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DeAnna M Stanley's avatar

They already are which is why I’m saying we need anyone who will speak up… even the flawed politicians like Newsom! That was my point from the beginning and I don’t see how anyone can disagree that a flawed person speaking up is worth more to us than no one at all!! There are lots of politicians that I don’t completely agree with, but they are elected to do a job… with many more pieces to the puzzle than we can see… but what we can see is that sometimes they have to prioritize the issues and the message.

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Connie Larsen's avatar

They already are! The Constitution! Our rights! Judges, colleges, ! People who are here legally!

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Dennis Doherty's avatar

Perhaps I don't 'get it' all....what I and perhaps you, will get is...that unless the GOP is soundly defeated in every possible election, every person will be at the mercy of MAGA. And that's in short supply. Giving the GOP another wedge issue for single issue voters, to be exploited by the puppet masters of GOP campaigns, will again assure that there will NOT be a Dem majority in Congress or a Dem POTUS. I've been told, by elected politicians that their first job as elected members of Congress was to be elected, job #2 is to be reelected. As unfortunate as that might seem to you and others, until the seniority system in Congress is eliminated, that's how politics is conducted. Perfection is in the minds of dreamers. Continue to dream and work towards perfection, but be a bit pragmatic and elect someone who has the best overall platform, agenda and chance to WIN! There are NO pyrric victories in politics! Not in this country with the public and media demanding 'races/battlegrounds/landslides etc. for the entertainment of the audiences. Yes, it's silly, inane, confusing and subject to ad campaigns with psyche majors and wordsmiths as important as the $$$$$$$ from the likes of Musk and Koch bros

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

The hill we will surely all die upon is the one where we keep shaving off tiny bits to appeal to a larger group. Perhaps we could just peel off the indigenous in the USA or any of the minority ethnic groups? Perhaps we could peel off the rest of the LGBTQ community whilst we’re abandoning the inconvenient folks. That’s a recipe for losing

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Jean Conley's avatar

The Dictator Useless Criminal Deranged More On is the one who can/should/needs to do that.

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Pamela Gibson's avatar

Trump is also a TACO when dealing with Putin. Such an accurate name for him.

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Rebel408's avatar

As a native Californian I am writing to ask that you stop giving Gavin Newsom a public forum because he is NOT the governor you think he is. Yes, he talks about "turmpproofing" CA but then uses trumpian tactics/measures to take actions like curtailing access to Medi-Cal for undocumented immigrants. Who does he thinks works in our fields, washes dishes in restaurants or cleans our hotel rooms? When these people don't have access to doctors or health care because of Gov Newsom they usually go to work because they cannot afford to lose a day's pay.

Governor Newsom works for PG&E and the utilities and the oil/gas industry more than he does protecting our climate. He is an oligarch in his own right who, with the help of his corrupted CPUC, has done all he can to destroy rooftop solar and renewables in CA. Not to mention the horrors he has perpetrated on our Trans community.

People who don't live in CA see him as a straightforward, speaking truth to power. We, in CA, see him for who he really is. And, right now, he is using your podcasts as a platform for his 2028 run for President.

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Robert's avatar

Native Californian, lifetime Democrat, San Francisco resident and small business owner here. Your comment is exactly spot on. Newsom has been dying to be president since the beginning of his “career”. Everything he does is to get himself publicity. He’s a shameless self promoter. He sold our city out to tech and venture capitalists and we have nothing to show for it. His policies and decisions are based on how far he thinks he’s going to get. He doesn’t actually care about any of the issues, it’s all about him. In my business, I hear nothing all day but people complaining about how high prices are, how PG&E is ripping everyone off, how the homeless situation is out of control, and he’s busy podcasting with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon. All to promote himself. And I also have to say I agree with you… He is definitely using Midas touch as self promotion. Let’s be clear, he has too much baggage, too many past dramas, is too busy lining his own pocket, and he actually has no idea what he’s doing. Jerry Brown was a far more effective governor. Please guys, the public is tired of these career do nothing politicians. Let’s hear some new voices.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

I live in CA. Lifelong resident. I was able to afford to take awesome state paid parental leave for 17 weeks because of Newsom. That wasn't there before. I also appreciate what he does for undocumented people in CA (Healthcare, eligible for state education loans)

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Joy Ann Bonham's avatar

I am a lifetime Democrat too, 5th Generation Californian. Here’s my opinion. Gavin is cutting aid to undocumented immigrants because our Medicaid budget is going to get cut big time by DC. Ya know, those guys that supply the money. He is having to make tough choices. Give health care to Americans or undocumented immigrants. We dawn OUR oxygen masks first.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

He's not cutting healthcare for undocumented immigrants, it just most likely won't be free anymore, it will just cost $100/month

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Joy Ann Bonham's avatar

Rebel … drop the WE IN CA. You presume to speak for ALL of us. You can use the words “many” or “some” in your generalizations, but YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME. I completely disagree with your opinion about Gavin, which is my right.

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Rebel408's avatar

You are right, Joy Ann. I should have written “Many in CA”. Thanks for reminding me that words matter. 🙂

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

I completely agree with Rebel408 !!

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Nathalie's avatar

"He doubled down on stupid." - Gavin Newsom on Trump's continued tariffs war.👌🏻🤦🏻‍♀️🥹

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DMC's avatar

Newsom is taunting Democrats with his recent MAGA courtship rituals. Not a fan.

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Heidi C.'s avatar

As a Native Californian and State of California employee I am very disappointed in my Governor. I won't be voting for him for President IF he wins the nomination. He's trying to play both sides and it's not working for most of us.

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Melanie Landers's avatar

So you will seriously vote for another Republican? Don Jr.? Are you kidding me? This is like people who voted for Trump because they were mad at Biden about Palestine. You don't like a candidate on every issue so you will vote for someone worse? Unfortunately we don't get multiple choices. You have to vote for the least awful.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Agree. The left is ridiculous. We can't seem to get our act together. This is exactly why Trump is president.

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Alison's avatar

Did you learn nothing from the last election? We choose, between two candidates, which one is most likely to support policies we support, not which one is most perfect in every respect. We are voting for a President of the United States, not the president of some us (which is what trump is.) Personally, I think Newsom has been a very good Governor and would be a good President if he chooses to run. We'll see who else throws their hat in the ring. Would I choose him over Pete Buttegeig (who, by the way, is also hammered by "progressives" for not being progressive enough)? Too soon to tell.

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Michael's avatar

I've always taken your approach. After 2024 the idea of tacking further to the center makes me want to puke. I'm truly starting to believe part of why we're here is because we accepted "not republican" as the sole qualification for too many politicians who are not devoted exclusively to clinging to power.

we need this party to change radically, and Newsom is the exact wrong direction

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Alison's avatar

I'm sorry you want to puke but you are completely closing your eyes to reality. We are here because 49% of the voters disagree with you and because perfectionist democrats didn't vote or voted third party and couldn't make a majority. I am not against progressive policies, as some have imagined. Far from it! But I am a realist and saw clearly how the numbers of votes landed. Bernie, for all his popularity could win only one state primary ( or two?). Biden won specifically because he could skate the middle. Harris made a good run - only a few percentage points from winning, and she lost because of the left wing maga not voting or voting for a third party ( and racism).

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Michael's avatar

I understand your perspective. I no longer share it after 2024.

I appreciate the good faith discussion, though

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Sorry but we live in a very conservative country. The candidate needs to be center enough to not just get far left votes. Otherwise people vote right.

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Michael's avatar

I personally believe our definitions of "far left" are broken. Universal healthcare and parental leave, for example, are extremely moderate positions globally.

they poll incredibly well in the US. The Newsom/Slotkin types are being told by their corporate owners that that's "radical."

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Tara Jeane's avatar

Agree with @cynthiakrugerhi and that's why I'm responding to this post! Why are you giving this guy facetime when he's been more than willing to throw Trans people under the bus and align with people like Charlie Kirk. I'm disappointed in Meidas that they're giving this guy press opportunities!

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Alison's avatar

Stop using knee-jerk phrases like "throwing trans people under the bus". He hasn't and he won't. You are being manipulated by republicans who are very afraid of Newsom.

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Tara Jeane's avatar

Newsom agreed with Charlie Kirk on his OWN podcast saying he "completely aligned" with Kirk on some of his gender policies AND he announced on Tuesday thru a spokesperson that the new policy from the CIF about Trans athletes was "reasonable" and "respectful". Once you open that door, it's really hard to close because they ALWAYS go after Gender affirming care next. So, unless you're telling me that my own eyes and ears are incorrect about these items, I'm not being manipulated by Republicans and he IS throwing Trans people under the bus

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Darrell T's avatar

Fuck Newsom and his Nazi pals. He's trying to play both sides you guys should call him on it. Stop trying to be the CNN of social media.

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Jenny M's avatar

Sorry but I can't stand Newsom. He is a hyprocrite and DINO.

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Larry yockell's avatar

The governors can beg Canadians to return to their states all they want, but we still need to get past the gestapos at border entry.

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Roxy54's avatar

Exactly, all the states offering deals is not going to bring us back when we are afraid to cross the borders because we don’t want to end up in a hole in a Louisiana or Texas prison.

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Roxy54's avatar

Exactly, all the states offering deals is not going to bring us back when we are afraid to cross the borders because we don’t want to end up in a hole in a Louisiana or Texas prison.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Heh . . . try living out in Hawai'i (where I live now) . . . I worry that because Trump has invalidated my gender marker on my documents TSA or even CBP (they can operate anywhere within 100 miles of the border (which is all of Hawai'i) that I might be stopped, my documents confiscated, and even imprisoned. They've done it to unlucky travelers for less (thinking of the Canadian woman who was imprisoned)

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M Crow's avatar

Sorry you have to deal with this.

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Mary Carrington's avatar

Newsom feigning angst over a mother who could possibly loose her business and her home as a result of Trump tariffs, frankly sickens me. There are 400,000 homeless individuals in California. The biggest economy in the states. He has vowed to bulldoze what shelter and few belongings these people possess. He talks out of both sides of his mouth, and is just another Hollywood actor.

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Alison's avatar

So run for office. Many Californians are sick of homeless encampments everywhere you look. You say Newsom has vowed to "bulldoze" shelters but in real life it is the US Supreme Court that has allowed cities to close homeless camps, giving people 48 hours, storing belongings for at least 60 days. It is a terrible problem, but you are criticizing those trying to deal with it and thereby allowing oligarchs who are creating the problem to run our government.

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Michael's avatar

removing homeless encampments is not dealing with the problem. it's reactionary and conservative because it's only dealing with the symptom. guaranteed housing and healthcare not tied to employment are the cause.

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Tracy Blackburn's avatar

Stop being besties with Gavin. He’s doing his damndest to throw California under the NAZI bus.

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Alison's avatar

Baloney.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

CA taxpayers are paying more than any other state to file lawsuits against Trump. In Trump's 1st term and now his 2nd. Newsom has taken more legal action against Trump than any other governor in the country to protect CA residents

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Tracy Blackburn's avatar

And we’ve seen exactly how effective lawsuits are against him.

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Cat Loaf's avatar

Better than doing nothing and lying there like a doormat and taking it. Or worse, kissing his ass (looking at you Congress)

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Christy's avatar

He speaks the truth. This entire administration & the results of their selfish decisions is depraved behavior. I left out human before behavior for a reason.

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Ted Gurtner's avatar

Gavin Newsom.

There's somebody who had a forest of credibility.

And then clear cut-it himself, betraying truth for podcast clicks.

I can't trust him anymore.

I no longer eagerly wish to hear what he has said.

Quite to the contrary, I have a sour feeling whenever there's something he has said available to listen to.

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Cynthia Gair's avatar

Too bad our formerly beloved Governor has caved to the haters, bro-ing with despicables and signalling our state's stance on trans people will change. We're so disappointed in him.

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Alison's avatar

Grow up. Politicians need to communicate to those on the other side of the aisle. No one mentions that by chatting with Charlie Kirk Newsom is introducing himself to people who are steeped in right wing media. At this time there are more republicans than democrats. He needs that exposure.

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Cynthia Gair's avatar

The issue isn't the exposure - I'm all for politicians going on all sorts of platforms - the issue is what he SAYS when he goes on these shows, the issue is his suddenly-complying decisions.

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Thomas Thompson's avatar

Trump continues to fantasize about foreign countries paying us TRILLIONS in tariffs and "Making Us Great Again", still not realizing, or admitting, they are a huge tax increase on working class Americans and a costly albatross around the shoulders of the elderly!

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Larry's avatar

Newsome for President!

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Kristi Kirschnick's avatar

It’s raining TACOS!!! 😎😎😎

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Renee Meyer's avatar

Taco Taco Taco hehehe

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Missi's avatar

Newsom lost me by pandering to MAGAts... hard no 🍸

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Amnos Storm's avatar

I will continue to ignore MAGAvin Newsom no matter how many times he tries to come onto @MeidasTouch Network. There is no redeeming himself after he doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on MAGA talking points.

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JOHN SMITH's avatar

The point is tRUMP gave Putin 2 more weeks to war on Ukraine and then what is he going to do then? Will he stand with Ukraine or will he TACO.

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M Crow's avatar

TACO 1000%

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Dee Joy's avatar

He's been giving Putin 2 week extensions for 5 months.

Hopes everyone forgets then gives another 2 weeks.

He does nothing to sanction Russia.

He allows Russia to keep destroying Ukraine.

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Mary Carrington's avatar

A handful of corruption Supreme Court judges criminalized homelessness. Newsom did not have to go along with that decision. I believe it is cruel and unusual. Surely, with all the educated populace of California a more humane solution could be found.

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S Truth's avatar

Why do you have this cocksuckerpn on your podcast? He ‘s quoting Elon Musk for Christ's sake. May have to rethink MTN.

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Kathleen Rus's avatar

Yes, Republicans held their noses and voted for Trump. We expected a perfect candidate and didn't vote for the one who had a chance of winning. They won, we and the rest of the country lost big.

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Greg's avatar

My Guy Gav! 🥳🤩🤗😎

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Teach84's avatar

How can MSNBC say that the economy is doing so great? Everything I have read this past week about the first four months of the year has said the exact opposite.

From Reuters: “Weekly jobless claims increased from 14,000 to 240,000

• Continuing claims rise 26,000 to 1.919 million

• Corporate profits fall $118.1 billion in first quarter

• Economy contracts at 0.2% rate in Q1 by all measures

… “The number of Americans filing new applications for jobless benefits increased more than expected last week and the unemployment rate appeared to have picked up in May, suggesting layoffs were rising as tariffs cloud the economic outlook. The report from the Labor Department showed a surge in applications in Michigan last week, the nation's motor vehicle assembly hub. The number of people collecting unemployment checks in mid-May was the largest in 3-1/2 years. The outlook for the economy is dimming with other data showing a sharp decline in corporate profits in Q1.”

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Corbet Cochran's avatar

The US Marshall's Service should drag the orange orangutan and his cronies out of the Whitehouse and Congress and drop them off at GITMO. They don't give a rat's petuie about the law so why should we??

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Dee Joy's avatar

That would be following the constitution, so why aren't they doing it now??

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M Crow's avatar

Quit pandering to the shitbags, DINO. You are the opposite of what we need right now.

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Craig Lisjak's avatar

UNITED?! NY Gov. many controversies…she’s NOT perfect but name one politician that is Red Blue or Purple!

UNITED AGAINST FASCISM!!! ☮️

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Jj's avatar

My understanding written in Trump’s appeal his attorney's wrote if the Tariffs aren't approved in Appeals Court Trump will return all the tariffs collected to the American taxpayers as a remedy! That’s such a stretch! Never gonna happen and how would they ever do the math on that as a result!

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uRNangel423's avatar

That money will never reach Americans pockets—it will be in DT’s pocket! Greedy DT!

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Rob Nelson's avatar

"Raining TACOS today." Brilliant opener by Gov Gavin.

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Andy's avatar

Wacko (adjective)

The meaning of Wacko is wacky. How to use it in a sentence:

Donald Trump is a WACKO TACO.

also see PSYCHO

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Leslie Petersen's avatar

I know there are a lot of reasons to hate on Gov Gav. His statement on trans athletes was shocking. I honestly could not believe it. I still think he is a great interview and always comes prepared with factual data and answers any question thrown at him.

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Cynthia Kruger (HI) 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Just the questions he thinks will get him to the next office.

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Jean Conley's avatar

Dump doesn't like anyone except his egotistical self. it's too bad the republiCRAPS can't see that.

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Margaret Redus's avatar

💙💙💙

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Jewels Lutovsky's avatar

"It's raining Tacos!" ahahahaha I am going to use that one! I have a Taco headband that will be warn more often now lol

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MarkItDown's avatar

Since Trumplestiltskin is pursuing CBS for mental damages, can’t the whole country create a class action lawsuit claiming mental distress for release of the Jan 6 convicts and for the application of blanket trade tariffs without congressional consent and proof of emergency power?

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Jodi's avatar

Way to go, Meidas and Gov. Newson!!💚

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Janie Covey's avatar

Impeach the incompetent bastard.

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Doug miller's avatar

EVERY AMERICAN PERSON WHO GIVES A DAMN ABOUT THIS COUNTRY SHOULD HOLD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE DAMAGE HE'S CREATED!!

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Doug miller's avatar

STRIP THIS FUCKER TRUMP OF ALL THE MONEY HE IS PROFITING FROM CRYPTO PUT HIM IN JAIL IN EL SALVADOR!!!

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Doug miller's avatar

GET RID OF THIS PIECE OF CRAP TRUMP TAKE HIS MONEY AWAY AND USE IT TO CLEAN UP ALL THE DISASTEROUS MESSES HE HAS CREATED!!! THEN PUT HIM IN JAIL!!!

EL SALVADOR COMES TO MIND!!!

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Rosie Sacks's avatar

There aren't 2 sides...there is only one side...the TACO fascist side..as soon as Americans get rid of whatever you want to call it, life may resume to normal...it will take years for the US to come back from his garbage that he put everyone through...

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dana's avatar

𝗜 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗸 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻'𝘁 𝗽𝗼𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗳𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘂𝘀 𝘀𝗶𝗰𝗸..."𝐛𝐮𝐭" 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗱 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴....

https://t.co/oONg9ULTY4

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Beth Witrogen's avatar

So grateful to see our gov taking an intelligent, compassionate and informed stand. A reprieve from earlier strange directions, feels now back on track. Not that I'm naive about politicians, but it's still good to hear facts, data, and his concern for the working class nationally and here in California. Especially because orange wants to destroy this state, maybe most of all.

Thank you Ben for this interview, appreciate your having Newsom on again and discussing real life effects of taco government.

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Jo Burns's avatar

Keep the taco crushing work!

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Michael's avatar

I'm so genuinely happy to see the Meidas community already in the comments pointing out that Newsom is a Nazi collaborating fraud

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Amarice's avatar

It will take this country generations to undo the damage that orange idiot has done in less than 5 months. We need to ensure that no maga get into any government position, ever again. A lot of money must go toward educating children within our schools. Adults also need to be educated about our Constitution and our history. This alone would take generations. People must be taught not to hate. That is the absurdity of this maga crap.

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Jennifer schindler's avatar

Give Newsome a break. Focus on the obsurdity of the trump regime and the weakling Republicans. Look at the number

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Kim Probst's avatar

Great substantive interview- thank you so much!

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Johnelle's avatar

Gavin has zero credibility. I’m done with his sucking up to magats. Now he’s throwing trans people under the bus. Screw him. I won’t ever vote for him again. I’m definitely not going to listen this podcast.

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Angie's avatar

Newsom here and the Dem newsletters telling us how great Rahm is. Guess they don’t want my vote.

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Michael's avatar

I'm genuine more frightened than ever about 26 and 28. the Democrats genuinely have seemingly learned nothing and are mostly treating this like a bad presidency to bargain around instead of a Nazi regime

the Newsom/Slotkin/Whitmer/Booker style capitulation is going to turn off SO many voters like me. I'm not a purity test person in most cases. I didn't withhold my vote over Palestine, etc because I believed Trump would make it worse.

Collaboration with MAGA Nazis is an auto-dealbreaker for me. If we just keep going "blue no matter who" we will get dragged further right every decade

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Blake 🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Newsom needs to fuck off honestly, he keeps switching sides when he clearly holds Republican beliefs and should suck up to Trump.

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Chuck Didier's avatar

I understand that there is a rift/deep trench between the GOP (grifters over principles quoting M. Cohen, and maga), with just about every other political and/or social platform, however, all anti trump/taco needs to step up to the plate and find a consensus, together, to fight/question all that trump and gop/maga are doing.

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Michael's avatar

my frustration is that "find a consensus" literally always means "move to the right"

im done with that. Their way failed catastrophically. follow the progressives for once

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Jessie's avatar

It's time to THINK!

We can't always agree 100% with anyone, but with GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM, he seems amenable to

change his position.

If the only issue on which you can condemn him is the issue of TRANS, you might consider the UTAH report that was made public & UTAH has been SILENT!

Think of how IRRATIONAL MAGA GOP are to craft 2 issues: TRANS RIGHTS & IMMIGRATION to create HYSTERIA to win elections. How does the TRANS issue threaten anyone?

If REPUBLICANS didn't LIE, no one would elect them!

Let's not fall into a challenge of RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA! Stick to SCIENCE, reports & LAW.

The TRANS issue is a fabrication to win ELECTIONS...not FACT. Just PROPAGANDA.

Utah Study on Trans Youth Care Extremely Inconvenient for Politicians Who Ordered It

TRUMP, MAGA ET AL RAN ON 2 FALSE PLATFORMS:

TRANSGENDER KIDS

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS

THIER PLATFORMS ARE CRUMBLING....THEY AREN'T COMMENTING....

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May 24, 2025

Utah Study on Trans Youth Care Extremely Inconvenient for Politicians Who Ordered It

The state’s ban on gender-affirming pediatric care “cannot be justified” by science, a two-year review concluded.

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In 2022, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox was the rare Republican governor who seemed to truly care about the well-being of transgender kids. “I don’t understand what they are going through or why they feel the way they do. But I want them to live,” he wrote in a letter that year, explaining why he was vetoing a bill that would have banned four trans middle- and high schoolers in Utah from playing on sports teams with classmates who shared their gender identity. “All the research shows that even a little acceptance and connection can reduce suicidality significantly.”

Meanwhile, nationally, Republican politicians were making opposition to trans rights a core tenet of their platforms, filing hundreds of bills attacking trans kids at the doctor’s office, at school, and on the field. Early in the 2023 legislative session, Cox capitulated, signing a bill that placed an indefinite “moratorium” on doctors providing puberty blockers and hormone therapy to trans kids with gender dysphoria. The bill ordered the Utah health department to commission a systematic review of medical evidence around the treatments, with the goal of producing recommendations for the legislature on whether to lift the moratorium. “We sincerely hope that we can treat our transgender families with more love and respect as we work to better understand the science and consequences behind these procedures,” Cox said at the time.

Now, more than two years later, that review is here, and its conclusions unambiguously support gender-affirming medical care for trans youth. “The conventional wisdom among non-experts has long been that there are limited data” on gender-affirming pediatric care, the authors wrote. “However, results from our exhaustive literature searches have lead us to the opposite conclusion.”

The medical evidence review, published on Wednesday, was compiled over a two-year period by the Drug Regimen Review Center at the University of Utah. Unlike the federal government’s recent report on the same subject, which was produced in three months and criticized gender-affirming pediatric treatments, the names of the Utah report’s contributors are actually disclosed on the more than thousand-page document.

The authors write:

The consensus of the evidence supports that the treatments are effective in terms of mental health, psychosocial outcomes, and the induction of body

changes consistent with the affirmed gender in pediatric [gender dysphoria] patients. The evidence also supports that the treatments are safe in terms of changes to bone density, cardiovascular risk factors, metabolic changes, and cancer…

It is our expert opinion that policies to prevent access to and use of [gender-affirming hormone therapy] for treatment of [gender dysphoria] in pediatric patients cannot be justified based on the quantity or quality of medical science findings or concerns about potential regret in the future, and that high-quality guidelines are available to guide qualified providers in treating pediatric patients who meet diagnostic criteria.

In a second part of their review, the authors looked specifically at long-term outcomes of patients who started treatment for gender dysphoria as minors:

Overall, there were positive mental health and psychosocial functioning outcomes. While gender affirming treatment showed a possibly protective effect in prostate cancer in transgender men and breast cancer in transgender women, there was an increase in some specific types of benign brain tumors. There were increased mortality risks in both transgender men and women treated with hormonal therapy, but more so in transgender women. Increase risk of mortality was consistently due to increase in suicide, non-natural causes, and HIV/AIDS. Patients that were seen at the gender clinic before the age of 18 had a lower risk of suicide compared to those referred as an adult.

Submitted with the review was a set of recommendations—compiled by advisers from the state’s medical and professional licensing boards, the University of Utah, and a Utah non-profit hospital system—on steps the state legislature could take to ensure proper training among gender-affirming care providers, in the event it decides to lift the moratorium.

But according to the Salt Lake Tribune, legislators behind the ban are already dismissing the findings they asked for. In response to questions from the Tribune, Rep. Katy Hall, who co-sponsored the 2023 ban, issued a joint statement with fellow Republican state Rep. Bridger Bolinder, the chair of the legislature’s Health and Human Services Interim Committee, that dismissed the study’s findings. “We intend to keep the moratorium in place,” they told the Tribune. “Young kids and teenagers should not be making life-altering medical decisions based on weak evidence.”

Why ignore their own review? Polling, the legislators’ statement suggests. “Utah was right to lead on this issue, and the public agrees—polls show clear majority support both statewide and nationally,” Hall and Bolinder added in their statement. “Simply put, the science isn’t there, the risks are real, and the public is with us.”

Others, like former state Rep. Mike Kennedy, a co-sponsor of the 2023 ban who now represents Utah’s 3rd district in Congress, have so far been silent on the state review’s findings—as has Gov. Cox, who did not respond to the Salt Lake Tribune‘s request for comment.

MOTHER JONES: UTAH STUDY

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/05/utah-transgender-youth-affirming-care-ban/?utm_source=www.readthesmile.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=the-smile-5-28&_bhlid=7b80f73d120bad0c8a786a8f5406a96d5773af8f

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Skitealwedrop's avatar

It’s raining TACOS, hallelujah. It’s raining TACOS, hallelujah. Newsom is funny. I guess we don’t need raining men anymore 🤣

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Patrice Mobley's avatar

😂😂😂😂TACO creature!

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Lori Lynne Evans's avatar

I think we should test calling the bill (1) the Big Bad Billionaire Bill or (2) the Big Beautiful Billionaire Bill.

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Barbara's avatar

I thank CA for staying Blue! I know there are many Redhat billionaires there trying to buy the state’s voting systems and justices! Newsom is a fighter for human rights! I sure hope Hollywood Billionaires do something about homelessness and kicks ICE OUT OF CA!

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Kypina's avatar

No.

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Richard's avatar

It's raining TACOS!!! Pri bless, hahaha!

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Christy B.'s avatar

People should know Gov. Newsom in May of last month proposed a BUDGET AMENDMENT that will CUT MEDICAID IN CALIFORNIA implement a $2,000 asset cap (allowed one car pee household) in order for people to be, or continue to be, eligible for Medi-Cal which turns back the clock to 2022! He says he needs to be "fiscally responsible." I call BS!He's just doing the same reverse Robin Hood scheme Trump is trying to do - rob from the poorest amongst us, the children, the elderly and disabled! Having only $2,000 in an account is nothing for emergencies in most any state, but in CA, it will likely evaporate quite quickly for medical visits, prescriptions, tires, eye glasses, car maintenance, car fuel, home heating and/or A/C and electric bills, and those famous "groceries!" And maybe just once in awhile it'd be nice to buy the kids an ice cream or take a little excursion in the car on the weekend. If these people have a home they cannot qualify for a home refi because their income is too low! Rents in CA are astronomical as are property taxes. I believe he's out of touch and doesn't give actually care because he's in his last term as Governor of our great state, and has his sights on trying to "appear" less left, and more "moderate" to his next "right-leaning" constituents. I say, Governor, I'm getting whiplash trying to keep up with how fast you change from one perspective to another. As the commenter above said, "Pick a side!" He felt magnanimous allowing Medicaid for undocumented immigrants and ALL low-income immigrants regardless of their status, creating a virtual homeless shelter out of the streets of San Francisco and now says it's too much of a burden on the state to continue those who happen to have scraped together over $2000! He doesn’t even think about how that could LEAVE ACTUAL CITIZENS OFF OF MEDICAID when non-citizens could continue to be covered, but at a time when it's unpopular to make a difficult choice to cut the undocumented, especially in the "SANCTUARY STATE" OF CA he created, he'd rather just MAKE OTHERS PAY FOR HIS POLITICAL LARGESSE and ERRORS IN JUDGMENT. In my opinion, he's too afraid of how bad it would make him look to admit that HE OVERBURDENED THE SYSTEM! Period.

He must have other areas he can cut somewhere else in the budget! He COULD start lobbying for his constituents, but instead I believe he wants to try to head to D.C. in a run for President, saying he left CA with a "balanced budget!" He's so about the optics.

Over 150 organizations have written to him and asked him to not do this, AND many affiliated agencies AND he's doing this to people at the worst time, as prices of goods are set to rise and interest rates as well! Impoverished people usually have lost their credit or their credit cards are maxed out! They often cannot charge unexpected expenses that arise.

It's no better than what Trump and the GOP Congress are doing! It's like it's a RACE TO SEE WHO CAN HURT THE POOREST THE FASTEST! Newsom calls Trump's behavior shameful. Well, Governor look in the mirror! He's running scared now that the supplemental federal funds might be getting cut for Medicaid, leaving the primary burden in the states. Not looking SO magnanimous now is he?

I wish Ben had known about Newsom's budget proposal to modify Medicaid eligibility prior to this interview. Btw, Newsom's proposal had been put out by him AHEAD OF THIS INTERVIEW. And Newsom sits there and has the nerve to look so noble and a man of The People, criticizing Trump when he was actually THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!

Let me make this clear. I'm a lifelong Democrat, and was born in San Francisco and have lived in California my whole life. I've seen every political move Newsom has made. And he's made some bad ones. This one is up there with the worst of them. AND I have a true disdain for what Trump is doing, but he is exactly what you see. What bothers me is Newsom is trying to appear better than Trump. The HYPOCRISY is simply unbelievable!

Please call Gov. Newsom's office in Sacramento after you read this and urge him to go F..., Ahem!, I mean please urge him

NOT TO RAISE the MEDICAID ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENT,

and to FIND THE MONEY ELSEWHERE with which to cut the budget. 916-445-2841

Thank you very much for making the call if you do and for reading down this far! 🦅

Be well! 🇺🇲💪🏻❤️‍🔥🙏🏻

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I apologize for so many typos. I was on my cell and it was late (or early in the a.m.). 😵‍💫

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Michael Wood's avatar

Perhaps the international community and the tarif police will stop paying attention to TACO Donny! Play like you hate Hitler!

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Jarno Jokinen's avatar

"Governor Newsom said it best: “It’s raining tacos today.” And by tacos, yes, we mean Trump Always Chickens Out. These rulings—one from the U.S. Court of International Trade and another from Judge Contreras—didn’t just invalidate Trump’s reckless tariffs. They ripped the mask off his so-called “economic policy” and exposed it for what it really is: performative chaos that’s been devastating working families, small businesses, and our ports." Worst is yet to come. Donald "The Beast" Trump is building a wall once again. Colossal tariff wall that is the beginning of the end for the system of down. At first the beast will pull the plug out of the global economy. The worst financial crisis of human history will pull a swarm of the banks underwater and the bank run begins. Then the beast will collapse a mountain of debt shattering the backbone of the monetary system causing a systemic risk to realize. Finally the beast will cast American citizens into a system slavery under the name of Ronald Wilson Reagan, just to "honor his legacy" count the number. After the destruction a new world order will be established in the US. And the Golden Age begins from the ruins of the world wide collapse. All of the system slaves will love it. No more cash - just digital transactions. No more traditional criminal activity. No more tax evasion. No more transactions without the "all seeing eye". Outcasts will hate the world without freedom, hope and privacy. To cover up the mess and distract the public by smoke and mirrors, the beast will engage in a war with Iran. Lies and deceit, corruption and decay, dancing on the graves will continue. Until; Black hole sun, won't you come, won't you come... I want to play a game. Time has come to opt out of the empire of filth. Live or die...

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Schmendryck's avatar

Gavin got a little criticism & then claimed it made him understand why the right is so upset at "overreaction from the left." Gavin has folded like the proverbial cheap street-umbrella in the face of minor league trump criticism & all it's gotten him is more getting pissed on by trump; Gavin continues to suck at the trump stump as he continues to trash the entire trans community, he's turning his back on the poor the unhoused the gender alternate, ALL the marginalized, who's next? And the bigger question is: why is Midas supporting this wretched example of all that's wrong with the Democratic Party today?

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Jacqueline Yvette Hardy's avatar

Go away Gavin! Talk in a big game while you try to take healthcare away from so many Californians who desperately need it!!!!

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gerri caldarola's avatar

no ships in our port here in Seattle --

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Kalani's avatar

Very informative , thanks 🙏

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Barb's avatar

You guys have to step it up, get rid of Schumer, get together and do the jobs you were elected to do. You are not doing nearly enough. Get it together!!!!

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Maureen Hatfield's avatar

I was really angry when he hosted Bannon on podcast, but sometimes placating to protect your constituents is part of politics. It isn’t for me, I am not good at playing with, in my senses, bad actors. After reflection, I see somewhat more clearly the why’s of his actions. Governor Newsom has held the greater good of CA, he did so also as mayor of SF. He is human, and being so he is imperfect as am I, and as are you. If he runs for President, gets the nomination, he has my vote.

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Melisa's avatar

A niece was finishing up her PhD in nursing, and had a job in research. The funding was canceled because of Trump. They then decided to buy a toy store in their small town thinking that would provide income and work while they raise their family. The toys come mostly from China. Glad the GOP really cares about working families.

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Stephanie Hobbs's avatar

That godawful BBB has some real scary stuff, behind the economic implications.

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DRN's avatar

Unfortunately Gavin is trying to make up his deficit on the backs of MediCal recipients by changing allowable assets (that includes any savings) to a maximum of $2000. If you have more than $2000 you'll lose your benefits no matter how badly you need medical care. California is the most expensive state in the US. It's a draconian move. Disabled and elderly residents of California are being terrorized by a Democrat. Gavin is a loser no matter what lawsuit was successful.

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alf calzon's avatar

"It's raining TACOS"

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Dee Joy's avatar

Well done Governor. Keep up the pressure.

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Dee Joy's avatar

Needed to know how this stupidity is affecting small business owners and everyday Americans.

People need to be aware of the REAL devastation and uncertainty that is happening to real people.

More reports about and from real people will benefit everyone. Financial people are talking about stopping payment of federal taxes.

A current tax law allows people to organise, bypass and donate 60% of their federal taxes to people less fortunate. It would be amazing if something like this could take off. Trump gets $0 and charities get 60% instead.

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Dee Joy's avatar

Peter thiel files with links to all three. Know the enemy, hiding in the shadows to be able to defeat them.

https://open.substack.com/pub/dissentinbloom/p/the-peter-thiel-files-file-iii?r=3cubt1&utm_medium=ios

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Tracy's avatar

Sometimes I live him and sometimes I hate him. Wish he was consistent.

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A’ Zuko Dali's avatar

👉🌮

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Michael's avatar

Can you please stop platforming Gavin Newsom? he's a diet Republican and part of the problem

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uRNangel423's avatar

People are not perfect!

We were intentionally born that way, stated biblically and medically.

No one is above another, nor should we be judging others who don’t hold the same beliefs.

Cooperation, respect, and exchange of ideas is what makes a democracy.

There is no absolute right or wrong, we each need to weigh the merits and make sensible choices for everyone.

Confrontation should lead towards a solution that is best for everyone.

It’s okay to disagree, but it’s better to compromise in our decision making for the betterment of all.

Let’s stop the name calling, let’s respect each other’s opinions and come to terms with cohesive actions for everyone.

This was what the original Framers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution meant.

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Dee Joy's avatar

As long as all involved are reasonable and support democracy.

You can't negotiate with evll or the nazis.

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Joy Ann Bonham's avatar

The left loves our cold uncivil war as much as the right does. The other side is the enemy and if you engage in anyway you are a traitor. I get so tired of the left’s group think. Black/white. With us / against us. If there was a center party, I would bail in a fast second .

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Mark Hawley's avatar

omg, trump double down on stupid! 🤣🤣🤣

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Mark Hawley's avatar

Thank you Governor!!

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Hermie's avatar

Glad when Newsom speaks out against the 🍊 but also glad that he picks his battles. Semantic satiation is real. Want Newsom’s impact to resonate w everyone, not just the left. I don’t always agree with Newsom but his messages carry weight

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Myke Sawyer's avatar

We will blow up. I believe there will be thousands of riots that will not end well

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Stephanie's avatar

Please let's let the TACO stuff go. I am no fan of Trump and how he's jerking the world around with the on-off-on-off tariffs. But I don't think mocking him - stooping to his level - is constructive. And it's ungrammatical to say "trump is a TACO". Thanks, Stephanie in Arlington VA

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Sue's avatar

It is political satire. It has been done since the beginning of our country, to keep people rational and blow off steam. It is actually healthy.

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Mark Goldsher's avatar

At least he has nice hair

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Constitution and Bimetallic Standard

In Money and Liberty James Turk(bit.ly/3FpXDEz) makes the Constitutional argument that the US should return to a bimetallic standard that is expressly stated in Article 1 Sections 8 and 10 and further supported by the Mint Act(aka Coinage Act) of 1792 The days of the fiat dollar are numbered with the largest debt/credit bubble in global history about to burst

The case can be made for a return to this Constitutionally established norm of which Nixon took the country off in 1971 The end result was run away profligate government spending and a credit/debt mountain

If there is not a reestablished bimetallic standard the domestic and global markets are in for catastrophic consequences Japan's economy with its current 260% debt to GDP ratio is about to fail and China has insulated itself with record gold and silver reserve accumulation since the 1980's

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Emergency Powers Act and and Basically, the judgment said exactly what we said in our brief. And so we're very, very pleased at this moment, this brief moment, that these tariffs have been thrown out. But the reality is the federal administration, at least the Trump administration, is now moving to get a stay in federal courts.