California's governor joined me for a no-holds-barred conversation about the economic wreckage Trump is causing, how we fight back, and yes, I pushed him on his podcast.
I honestly don’t think that’s the case. He was the future of the Democrat party and now he’s blown it - not because he had the MAGAts on his podcast - but because he agreed with too much of what they said.
My governor too. I don't blame Ben for interviewing him. I just can't listen to Newsom right now. Of all the guests to have on so soon, he chose those racists and bigot nut jobs? AND then what he said? Newsom ruined whatever slim chance he had at winning a primary much less the presidency.
I am not putting anyone down who chooses to listen or criticize anyone who chooses to overlook Newsom’s interviewing choices. I, however, choose not to watch or listen to him right now. Respect to all here except the trolls.
I don’t see his response being reassuring to people who are disappointed in him for speaking with Kirk and Bannon, as a pretty critical and deep thinking constituent in California I don’t find his responses reassuring. Exhaustion is not a reason to invite white supremacists to the table. Interest in the audiences white supremacists have built is not a reason to bring them to the table.
However, the fact remains that by being that raging hateful ignoramus is exactly WHY he's ended up with mllions of followers. Perhaps Gavin Newsom is just trying to understand HOW that could be?....
I didn't and I appreciated seeing his hateful BS in a non- screaming civil discourse! No I wasn't happy that Newsome didn't fact check and push back but as he said in this interview that wasn't the purpose. Do you think any Dems were converted to GOP by listening to CK? I doubt it. But a lot of people who knowing about CK sure got an eye opener. Now I can have an intelligent conversation about him when necessary.
Do you think any Dems were converted to GOP by listening to CK? I doubt it. But a lot of people who don't know anything about CK sure got an eye opener. Now I can have an intelligent conversation about him when necessary.
Yes... there HAS to be some pushback or reasoning with these guys, because otherwise it's just mimicking what ALL the right wing podcasts do on a daily basis. There has to be some kind of educational, detailed response to what these ignorant, evil fascists SAY on his podcast! Not good enough, Gavin!
Do you think any Dems were converted to GOP by listening to CK? I doubt it. But a lot of people who know nothing about CK sure got an eye opener. You need to know who the targeted audience was. CK's audience wouldn't listen to anything Newsome said. And as Newsome said in this interview, that wasn't the purpose of the podcast. It was to listen to them talk so he could see where they were coming from and what they might have in common. I think he succeeded in that.
No but a lot of GOP MAGA got to run with Gavin newsom agreeing with CK and it doesn’t take much for those folks to amplify their hate and relish in being “correct”
But since I don't know what a podcast is, as I am lazy but smart, I'm neutral and waiting for my Federal Election results by the end of the month and 'free dentalcare'.
But he didn’t push back AT ALL!!! That’s what I find most objectionable. Also, he could have guests that are conservative, but why the worst of the worst? Why give them a platform? I’m sorry, I can’t support him as a future presidential candidate any more. I just don’t feel I can trust him.
He was not collaborating . He was listening to them and learning what does he need to do to communicate with the other side . This is a country of more than one ideology. If you don't listen you cannot learn how to defeat.
💯. I mean, if I know what CK is about, how could Newsom not know or anyone else for that matter? If I want to hear from the other side, there are PLENTY of outlets I can tune into for that information. Whatever Newsom's motivations may have been, he gave CK and Bannon legitimacy. By the way, I don't believe Newsom's reasoning but that's just my opinion. For now, Newsom can talk to the hand ✋🏼or go on right wing media - where they will mock him.
Because some of us don't listen to Fox et al and didn't know anything about CK. Everyone knows of Bannon but I don't listen to him. So a civil, non-screaming discussion just reinforced how disgusting he really is. maybe you should listen to the interview again because Newsome explained clearly the reason for the interviews.
I am totally fine with those who want to listen to Newsom and I am fine with those, of which I am one, who don't want to listen to Newsom right now. By the way, I am not a one issue voter and if Newsom were running against a republican, I would vote for him. But, at least right now, I highly doubt he gets past a presidential primary. I don't understand why the hate for those of us that are not interested in listening to Newsom or MAGA "insight" or why they vote for Trump. I am SO over hearing their "reasons". I 100% do not want to listen to them. I hear enough of their BS from family members and friends' MAGA relatives. They can't shut up about why they vote for Trump. Sometimes, I want to ask them, are you trying to convince me or yourself that you are not a racist, bigot or self loathing idiot?
Because some of us don't listen to Fox et al and didn't know anything about CK. Everyone knows of Bannon but I don't listen to him. So a civil, non-screaming discussion just reinforced how disgusting he really is.
I think that’s the disconnect. Ignorance is giving racist fascist the benefit of the doubt. If you don’t understand what these people represent, maybe that’s an education gap. Newsom knows exactly who these people are and what they stand for and he didn’t pushback on them once. If Newsom doesn’t have the courage to fight on his own podcast, good luck running for president. I will keep saying it until I am blue in the face, YOU DON’T COLLABORATE OR COMPROMISE WITH FASCISM. Have we learned nothing from history?
Ignorance is choosing not to know. How can you refute an argument you don't hear? Listening is not agreement or capitulation. It's a way of knowing your enemy and arming against them. Tens of thousands of people listen to them. Do you know why? It's not sufficient to say, "because they are all stupid aholes."
Most of us are already educated on “who they are”. As I stated before, it’s an education gap and that’s ok. Do your own research. The rest of us aren’t going to normalize this bs rhetoric they stand for.
Most of you are not the intended audience of Newsom's podcast. And most of us DO NOT know anything about CK or Bannon besides what we see on TV news. You can't fight normalization or anything else if you don't listen and try and understand what makes the enemy tick.
The podcast WAS NOT for Newsom. It was others who wanted to hear from the people he interviews in a civil discourse. So they could make it clear to everyone who didn't know about them how disgusting they are. If you don't like the premise of the podcast don't listen. I appreciated the opportunity to hear them answer questions without everyone going ballistic. Do you think any Dems were converted to GOP by listening to CK? I doubt it.
Extremely naive if you think Newsom isn’t sucking up to MAGA for his presidential run. Trying to have civil discourse with this fascist cult got us into this mess. Good lord, wake tf up.
Hey if anyone wants to listen to Newsom and his right wing guests, go for it. I do not. If someone thinks I'm ignorant, so be it. Better to be thought an idiot than to engage and leave no doubt. Screw MAGA.
Listening is not normalizing. It's learning. It's always better to know more than know less. When you only hear one side, you become a Fox News zombie.
If you want to know, listen to Kirk & Bannon directly on THEIR platforms. It’s what I do. On their podcast, they attack, pushback, ridicule any opposing view. They spare no one. I’m disgusted by what I hear & it confirms to me why we must counter loud these dangerous & offensive beliefs. Disappointed is an understatement that Newsom didn’t use his podcast to expose, pushback, fact check these people. Instead, he looked like he had crush on Kirk. Disturbing how excited/proud he was to tell Kirk his 13yr old is a fan.
And this is why the Democrats always lose. Too many babies will only vote for a candidate who thinks exactly like them. That's why Republicans win because even a devout Christian will vote for a rapist as he's a Republican. And we're all stuck with it.
it's not his political career I care about. I haven't been a Newsom fan (though I have voted for him) for years, knowing his duplicity around prison reforms. What I care about is the hypocrisy. Don't forget he married Ms. Guilfoyle before she became a trumper. So ... i think it's too soon to tell what his real playbook is here.
What I care about is his governship of California, which leaves a lot to be desired in too many ways.
I liked Newsom. But, to be fair, I hold politicians to different standards than I do to people in my life. But this latest stunt was it for me - at least in terms of listening to him or defending him. I am glad his term is coming to an end. What a betrayal to those of us that saved him from two recalls.
at least he's broaching the conversation. conservatives have absolutely cornered the propaganda market and he's trying to break through that hold. so i support that. and i don't even like the smarmy guy.
That's ridiculous. How do you refute their arguments if you don't what they are? You may think you know or you may assume everyone knows, but you'd be wrong.
I understand feelings like this but him listening to Bannon and Kirk shows he is attempting to learn more about how the Democrats lost. Throwing him out is exactly what is wrong with Democrats. We will never win if we can't unite.
I’m sorry but there is nothing to learn from racist fascist. Trying to learn from MAGA got us into this mess. Everyone needs to pick a side because Democracy is slipping away.
💯. I, for one, don't want to learn why MAGAs are MAGAs. Please. They have a big enough platform already. Gas! Eggs! MS-13 or whatever number that gang uses! Emails! Benghazi! Transgender People in sports or, God forbid, our bathrooms! Afghanistan! Never mind that Trump negotiated the terms for the US leaving. I don't want another platform for their hate.
Amen! There is no common ground with the current republican/Maga party. There is no common ground with Kirk or with Bannon. There is no need to sit down with these people to realize what they stand for and even to figure out why Harris lost. We are not talking about sitting down with Republicans of old. Sitting down and discussing anything and trying to somehow normalize Maga, Kirk, Bannon, is just Idiotic. All you have to do is watch a 10 minute video of Kirk or Bannon on YouTube and you know exactly what they stand for and what they want. And the governor of California should already understand that there is no common ground and there is no way to compromise with them.
💯 Agree. I don't buy Newsom's, after-the-fact, reasoning. Again, I am someone who liked him. I just can't listen to him right not. Beyond disgusted with him. I found his completely patronizing reasoning offensive and idiotic. Actually, was he condescending or patronizing in his reasoning?
Honestly, we know the reasons MAGAs voted for Trump. Geez, how many diner interviews have there been since 2016? And please, people who say they are not MAGA but voted for Trump, still carry the stench of voting for him. They just don't want to admit they are either racists or don't care that Trump is one - which makes them bigots and racists or self loathing or super rich who don't care. I don't believe most of us are throwing Newsom out. He is not running for anything right now. If he were running, I would hold my nose and vote for him over any republican and I suspect most of us would as well. There are those that are single issue voters but I doubt most of us here would not vote for him if he were up against a republican. This is nothing like people not voting for Kamala Harris bc of Gaza.
You only know what the media has told you. On both sides. The truth will come as researchers analyze the election results. The one preliminary report I saw today turns the whole "who voted for whom and who didn't on it's head".
With all due respect, you do not know what I know. I don't presume to know what you know. Beliefs are not facts and we are all entitled to our beliefs and opinions. This includes you. Read, watch and listen to whomever want - you, of course, need no one's permission or approval for this. You do you.
Purists??? We have been taken over by a fascist dictator. There is nothing to learn or compromise about with this cult. This is fight between right and wrong. Choose a side.
He did a great interview on IHIPNEWS just a few months ago............he seems exhausted and kind of burnt now..........I am going back to check out Jen and Angie again....he did get them upset over the last month......Hats off to Ben and a fantastic job here today with Gov Newsom.......MTN keeps kicking Orange ass big time!!! April 5...to the streets people!!!
He’s platforming people who are anti black. What are we supposed to think? If you support racists should we not assume? Trump is literally getting advice from Laura Loomer, is she next on Gavin’s podcast?
Or, as he says, he's trying to learn more about them. And giving us the opportunity to learn more about them. So we can see for ourselves how disgusting they are in a civil conversation. You can't beat an enemy you don't understand.
Yea he played his cards wrong. Kamala wasn’t a bad candidate. This country is just misogynistic. Hillary was the best candidate we ever had and I bet Gavin criticized her too!
Did he apologize for throwing Trans Americans under the bus by capitalizing to the spurious right-wing talking point of Trans athletes competing? This issue is a total diversionary tactic and is a fascist way of scapegoating Trans Americans. Today Shitler declared war on Trans Americans and Trans youth specifically. I'm so disappointed in Newsom. Really expected better from him.
We must remember that Trump’s intelligence has NEVER been on the "high" side. He's a bully - plain and simple. As with most bullies, the need to be dealt with head-on.
This administration is run by an ass-clown with a forever victim complex, full of paranoid revenge. No one has enough spine to stop him. The whole planet held hostage to whims of a madman. And now everyone, even the penguins, are getting tariffed up the ass. No matter how much he talks up how great things are & will be, economists and historical experience demonstrate otherwise. And we can see with our own eyes.
Lies are truth with this sociopath. "The emperor’s clothes are so lovely.”
Ignorant propagandized voter base = fascist's dream
He can talk about unification all he wants, but that’s not what this is really about. MAGA isn't interested in collaboration or treating all Americans with equality and respect. Their brand of "conservatism" has veered away from serving the people and now seems more focused on harming them.
The idea that Democrats lost because of "identity politics" is a tired, deflective argument—akin to saying we shouldn't have fought for desegregation because one party opposed it and we should’ve been more diplomatic. That’s not how human rights work.
So while I understand Newsom's claim that he's using bipartisan diplomacy to open up conversations, it rings hollow. It feels like he's playing into the same political theater that got us into this mess in the first place.
Conservatives have shown they won’t protect our climate, our environment, our people, or our future. They're clinging to a past rooted in exclusion and are increasingly pushing an agenda that resembles Christofascist white supremacy. We must not align ourselves with that. We must stand firmly apart.
Sorry but his response is weak. He SHOULD have pushed those guys on their lies. He let Bannon say the election of 2020 was rigged and Trump won. At the very least Newsom could have said that's not true. And he spends all his time saying he appreciates people. We are so over spineless Dems. He's the worst. He's spineless and oily. Him letting those Maggots plow him with lies is the problem.
It’s time. Time to rise up and take back this democracy before it’s too late.
To every GOP & MAGA MF responsible for the 30+ year theft of wealth, power & democracy from the people, we will take it back.
Hey DEMS, INDEPENDENTS & non-MAGA GOP, time to tell Trumpler, Elmo & his Nazi teens, MAGA and Project 2025 we see you and your lies, we don’t want it and we’re taking it back.
SENATORS DO YOUR JOB.
33! THERE ARE 33 VERTEBRAE IN YOUR SPINES. GET ON YOUR KNEES, COLLECT THEM AND REINSERT IN YOUR CORES. NOW!
DEMS, GROW A SET. GET TOUGH. BE RUTHLESS LIKE THEM. NOW!
Great governor in a really effed up time. We appreciate your demeanor. Thank you for standing tall.
Careful, though Dems have been naive and lacking in imagination on GOP morph to fascist MAGA party, Dems not toxic. They operated with great naïveté.
We must stand up, throw sand in gears, lean in and let rogue wing-nut SCOTUS and MAGA Congress know we’ve got our eyes on them and we’re not letting them flush Lady Liberty over the cliff into full authoritarian oligarchical kleptocracy.
Newsom lost all credibility when he decided to throw trans people under the bus at a state level and helping amplify MAGA propaganda. He’s also squashing bills pro-LGBTQ behind the scenes. Trans people are about 1% of the population - they are not the reason democrats lost en masse.
I have a feeling he’s cozying up to these bigots because he thinks it’ll help him in a possible run for president. News flash - they will never vote for you.
Pushing back against lies and bigotry is your fucking job as a leader.
I understand Gavin's point. We are a nation of both sides. When you govern you have to listen to all sides. For people to get upset that he will communicate with everyone is a little unfair. He is the govenor of California , the entire state. Not just the liberal community.
Sorry, guys, but Newsom collaborating with Kirk and his ilk puts him on my ignore list.
I'm not sure that's the case. I think its to show he is not governing in a echo chamber. He doesn't have to agree with him to listen.
I honestly don’t think that’s the case. He was the future of the Democrat party and now he’s blown it - not because he had the MAGAts on his podcast - but because he agreed with too much of what they said.
I agree. He's my governor and I'm very disappointed in him.
Did he say anything in this interview enough to redeem himself?
I'm gonna stop watching it now.
Worth listening to… I wouldn’t throw him out just with this move. Democrats needs to do something different
No no no no no.
My governor too. I don't blame Ben for interviewing him. I just can't listen to Newsom right now. Of all the guests to have on so soon, he chose those racists and bigot nut jobs? AND then what he said? Newsom ruined whatever slim chance he had at winning a primary much less the presidency.
Are those the only two people he ever interviewed? Would you even know if you haven't listened?
I am not putting anyone down who chooses to listen or criticize anyone who chooses to overlook Newsom’s interviewing choices. I, however, choose not to watch or listen to him right now. Respect to all here except the trolls.
Yes, he is asked about it and discusses why so you should listen.
I don’t see his response being reassuring to people who are disappointed in him for speaking with Kirk and Bannon, as a pretty critical and deep thinking constituent in California I don’t find his responses reassuring. Exhaustion is not a reason to invite white supremacists to the table. Interest in the audiences white supremacists have built is not a reason to bring them to the table.
I completely agree.
Totally agree!!!
He GAVE CK a platform - not forgivable
A platform to be exactly who he is - a raging hateful ignoramus. And it SCREAMED out - for all to hear. Nothing wrong with that exposure of evil.
However, the fact remains that by being that raging hateful ignoramus is exactly WHY he's ended up with mllions of followers. Perhaps Gavin Newsom is just trying to understand HOW that could be?....
Who doesn't know what he is?
I didn't and I appreciated seeing his hateful BS in a non- screaming civil discourse! No I wasn't happy that Newsome didn't fact check and push back but as he said in this interview that wasn't the purpose. Do you think any Dems were converted to GOP by listening to CK? I doubt it. But a lot of people who knowing about CK sure got an eye opener. Now I can have an intelligent conversation about him when necessary.
Agree Debra. Giving any of them any platform contributes to the normalization of maga bs
Anyone paying attention is well aware of their level of ignorance….
Do you think any Dems were converted to GOP by listening to CK? I doubt it. But a lot of people who don't know anything about CK sure got an eye opener. Now I can have an intelligent conversation about him when necessary.
Can't ignore either
My problem with these interviews on GN podcast is that it's okay to listen to their point of view.. but he didn't push back at all. That bothered me.
Yes... there HAS to be some pushback or reasoning with these guys, because otherwise it's just mimicking what ALL the right wing podcasts do on a daily basis. There has to be some kind of educational, detailed response to what these ignorant, evil fascists SAY on his podcast! Not good enough, Gavin!
Do you think any Dems were converted to GOP by listening to CK? I doubt it. But a lot of people who know nothing about CK sure got an eye opener. You need to know who the targeted audience was. CK's audience wouldn't listen to anything Newsome said. And as Newsome said in this interview, that wasn't the purpose of the podcast. It was to listen to them talk so he could see where they were coming from and what they might have in common. I think he succeeded in that.
No but a lot of GOP MAGA got to run with Gavin newsom agreeing with CK and it doesn’t take much for those folks to amplify their hate and relish in being “correct”
Right. But GN is a cis white male who CK thinks of as somewhat of an equal.
Fucking insane.
But since I don't know what a podcast is, as I am lazy but smart, I'm neutral and waiting for my Federal Election results by the end of the month and 'free dentalcare'.
🇨🇦🇺🇦🚀💥
Agreed. Know your enemy.
Yes. Demanding perfection contributed to Dems losses 2016 and 2024.
That's always been the fault of the Democrats. "We don't care if we're irrelevant as long as we're pure and dogmatic."
But he didn’t push back AT ALL!!! That’s what I find most objectionable. Also, he could have guests that are conservative, but why the worst of the worst? Why give them a platform? I’m sorry, I can’t support him as a future presidential candidate any more. I just don’t feel I can trust him.
It wasn't a debate, it was an interview.
Listening to Nazis, actual Nazis, is not appropriate, except to hear their contrition.
And the more I think of it, the more I dislike the Meidas interview.
Meidas knew what they are doing.
Who the fork are you to say what is appropriate? Ignorance is never a good option. You have to know your enemy to counter their attacks.
He was not collaborating . He was listening to them and learning what does he need to do to communicate with the other side . This is a country of more than one ideology. If you don't listen you cannot learn how to defeat.
What exactly did he learn from racist fascist?
Exactly 👍🏻 we all know who they are; they already have a big enough audience, why prop them up more? Money. Next!
💯. I mean, if I know what CK is about, how could Newsom not know or anyone else for that matter? If I want to hear from the other side, there are PLENTY of outlets I can tune into for that information. Whatever Newsom's motivations may have been, he gave CK and Bannon legitimacy. By the way, I don't believe Newsom's reasoning but that's just my opinion. For now, Newsom can talk to the hand ✋🏼or go on right wing media - where they will mock him.
Because some of us don't listen to Fox et al and didn't know anything about CK. Everyone knows of Bannon but I don't listen to him. So a civil, non-screaming discussion just reinforced how disgusting he really is. maybe you should listen to the interview again because Newsome explained clearly the reason for the interviews.
Thank you for your suggestion. I'm good.
I am totally fine with those who want to listen to Newsom and I am fine with those, of which I am one, who don't want to listen to Newsom right now. By the way, I am not a one issue voter and if Newsom were running against a republican, I would vote for him. But, at least right now, I highly doubt he gets past a presidential primary. I don't understand why the hate for those of us that are not interested in listening to Newsom or MAGA "insight" or why they vote for Trump. I am SO over hearing their "reasons". I 100% do not want to listen to them. I hear enough of their BS from family members and friends' MAGA relatives. They can't shut up about why they vote for Trump. Sometimes, I want to ask them, are you trying to convince me or yourself that you are not a racist, bigot or self loathing idiot?
Because some of us don't listen to Fox et al and didn't know anything about CK. Everyone knows of Bannon but I don't listen to him. So a civil, non-screaming discussion just reinforced how disgusting he really is.
can I ask you to clarify who the “us” in your first sentence? Thanks
"Us" is the majority of Americans who know Fox is a right wing entertainment show and not news. ;-)
You don't know who they are if you don't listen. Knowing more is always better than knowing less. Why would you choose to be ignorant?
I think that’s the disconnect. Ignorance is giving racist fascist the benefit of the doubt. If you don’t understand what these people represent, maybe that’s an education gap. Newsom knows exactly who these people are and what they stand for and he didn’t pushback on them once. If Newsom doesn’t have the courage to fight on his own podcast, good luck running for president. I will keep saying it until I am blue in the face, YOU DON’T COLLABORATE OR COMPROMISE WITH FASCISM. Have we learned nothing from history?
Ignorance is choosing not to know. How can you refute an argument you don't hear? Listening is not agreement or capitulation. It's a way of knowing your enemy and arming against them. Tens of thousands of people listen to them. Do you know why? It's not sufficient to say, "because they are all stupid aholes."
Most of us are already educated on “who they are”. As I stated before, it’s an education gap and that’s ok. Do your own research. The rest of us aren’t going to normalize this bs rhetoric they stand for.
Most of you are not the intended audience of Newsom's podcast. And most of us DO NOT know anything about CK or Bannon besides what we see on TV news. You can't fight normalization or anything else if you don't listen and try and understand what makes the enemy tick.
We are so cooked. Wow.
The podcast WAS NOT for Newsom. It was others who wanted to hear from the people he interviews in a civil discourse. So they could make it clear to everyone who didn't know about them how disgusting they are. If you don't like the premise of the podcast don't listen. I appreciated the opportunity to hear them answer questions without everyone going ballistic. Do you think any Dems were converted to GOP by listening to CK? I doubt it.
Extremely naive if you think Newsom isn’t sucking up to MAGA for his presidential run. Trying to have civil discourse with this fascist cult got us into this mess. Good lord, wake tf up.
Hey if anyone wants to listen to Newsom and his right wing guests, go for it. I do not. If someone thinks I'm ignorant, so be it. Better to be thought an idiot than to engage and leave no doubt. Screw MAGA.
Funny
Why is there a villain in the movie Oklahoma?
I agree but when your normalizing extreme homophobia, misogyny and hate that’s not a political ideology that’s just being a dick and a Nazi🤷🏻♀️
Listening is not normalizing. It's learning. It's always better to know more than know less. When you only hear one side, you become a Fox News zombie.
If you want to know, listen to Kirk & Bannon directly on THEIR platforms. It’s what I do. On their podcast, they attack, pushback, ridicule any opposing view. They spare no one. I’m disgusted by what I hear & it confirms to me why we must counter loud these dangerous & offensive beliefs. Disappointed is an understatement that Newsom didn’t use his podcast to expose, pushback, fact check these people. Instead, he looked like he had crush on Kirk. Disturbing how excited/proud he was to tell Kirk his 13yr old is a fan.
And not everyone knows what the extreme right thinks and says.
Exactly.
There is absolutely no doubt he did it for ratings.
And my question:
Did Meidas put him on for ratings, also?
LOL!
And this is why the Democrats always lose. Too many babies will only vote for a candidate who thinks exactly like them. That's why Republicans win because even a devout Christian will vote for a rapist as he's a Republican. And we're all stuck with it.
@Jim Gray Spot on. He is grifting off MAGA, playing footsie with fascists. Huge miscalculation for his political career.
it's not his political career I care about. I haven't been a Newsom fan (though I have voted for him) for years, knowing his duplicity around prison reforms. What I care about is the hypocrisy. Don't forget he married Ms. Guilfoyle before she became a trumper. So ... i think it's too soon to tell what his real playbook is here.
What I care about is his governship of California, which leaves a lot to be desired in too many ways.
I liked Newsom. But, to be fair, I hold politicians to different standards than I do to people in my life. But this latest stunt was it for me - at least in terms of listening to him or defending him. I am glad his term is coming to an end. What a betrayal to those of us that saved him from two recalls.
at least he's broaching the conversation. conservatives have absolutely cornered the propaganda market and he's trying to break through that hold. so i support that. and i don't even like the smarmy guy.
Magas are not conservatives, their facists, racists and un-American period.
100% it’s not a political ideology it’s just hate.
100% When you Normalize Nazi’s you are a Nazi🤷🏻♀️
That's ridiculous. How do you refute their arguments if you don't what they are? You may think you know or you may assume everyone knows, but you'd be wrong.
Unfortunately faux news creats them or converts them into what they have become 😕.
I agree!
That is the issue I have with both parties we listen to our own echo chamber and that's all we listen to.
Same
Newsom is siding with fascists like Bannon and Kirk. Democrats need more diverse leaders, not more rich entitled white men like him. Women of color will save our democracy! https://democracydefender2025.substack.com/p/women-will-save-our-democracy
Let us ask him about that.
I say there are 300 issues/concerns of the poor elderly disabled and vulnerable.
Now there are 300 additional issues/concerns of the tariffed.
I lost respect for Newsom when he decided to meet with Kirk and Bannon. He’s become a DINO.
I wish DINO was something much cooler than it actually is.
You are not any better than the MAGA crowd saying that democrats are crazy.
I didn't call Democrats crazy. Would be kind of weird for me to do that when I tend to vote Democrat. :)
Newsom is a MAGA sellout.
I understand feelings like this but him listening to Bannon and Kirk shows he is attempting to learn more about how the Democrats lost. Throwing him out is exactly what is wrong with Democrats. We will never win if we can't unite.
I love your optimism but there is no unity with fascism.
Not unity, but something to learn?
I’m sorry but there is nothing to learn from racist fascist. Trying to learn from MAGA got us into this mess. Everyone needs to pick a side because Democracy is slipping away.
Exactly this. And you certainly don't give fascists a platform.
💯. I, for one, don't want to learn why MAGAs are MAGAs. Please. They have a big enough platform already. Gas! Eggs! MS-13 or whatever number that gang uses! Emails! Benghazi! Transgender People in sports or, God forbid, our bathrooms! Afghanistan! Never mind that Trump negotiated the terms for the US leaving. I don't want another platform for their hate.
The Democrats lost because idiots like you think we need to find common ground with fascists.
Amen! There is no common ground with the current republican/Maga party. There is no common ground with Kirk or with Bannon. There is no need to sit down with these people to realize what they stand for and even to figure out why Harris lost. We are not talking about sitting down with Republicans of old. Sitting down and discussing anything and trying to somehow normalize Maga, Kirk, Bannon, is just Idiotic. All you have to do is watch a 10 minute video of Kirk or Bannon on YouTube and you know exactly what they stand for and what they want. And the governor of California should already understand that there is no common ground and there is no way to compromise with them.
💯 Agree. I don't buy Newsom's, after-the-fact, reasoning. Again, I am someone who liked him. I just can't listen to him right not. Beyond disgusted with him. I found his completely patronizing reasoning offensive and idiotic. Actually, was he condescending or patronizing in his reasoning?
I agree, except I wouldn't call any of the Meidas Mighty an idiot. 😬
What was the idea then?
Whatever their logic, it was stupid at best to put him on.
My apologies. I thought you called one of the people who commented here an idiot.
The opposite is that there is a perfect place for all of us to fit in.
Im so lazy I wont transfer to my new mobile phone sitting on table a month.
Im so tired of phone internet stealing my life's hours.
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Honestly, we know the reasons MAGAs voted for Trump. Geez, how many diner interviews have there been since 2016? And please, people who say they are not MAGA but voted for Trump, still carry the stench of voting for him. They just don't want to admit they are either racists or don't care that Trump is one - which makes them bigots and racists or self loathing or super rich who don't care. I don't believe most of us are throwing Newsom out. He is not running for anything right now. If he were running, I would hold my nose and vote for him over any republican and I suspect most of us would as well. There are those that are single issue voters but I doubt most of us here would not vote for him if he were up against a republican. This is nothing like people not voting for Kamala Harris bc of Gaza.
You only know what the media has told you. On both sides. The truth will come as researchers analyze the election results. The one preliminary report I saw today turns the whole "who voted for whom and who didn't on it's head".
With all due respect, you do not know what I know. I don't presume to know what you know. Beliefs are not facts and we are all entitled to our beliefs and opinions. This includes you. Read, watch and listen to whomever want - you, of course, need no one's permission or approval for this. You do you.
He yucked it up with them like asshole bro he is - hard pass
You are a little tunnel visioned. There are more than one side to a problem.
Nope it is democracy or authoritarian fascim. Choose …
Really? That's just great. Let's be purists so we make sure we are always a small fringe minority.
Purists??? We have been taken over by a fascist dictator. There is nothing to learn or compromise about with this cult. This is fight between right and wrong. Choose a side.
Pure fascism or pure Democracy.
Choose.
I thought 'you' like movie stars best yet no talk of them here.
Newsome is a republican at this point. I don’t care what he has to say.
He did a great interview on IHIPNEWS just a few months ago............he seems exhausted and kind of burnt now..........I am going back to check out Jen and Angie again....he did get them upset over the last month......Hats off to Ben and a fantastic job here today with Gov Newsom.......MTN keeps kicking Orange ass big time!!! April 5...to the streets people!!!
I love those ladies from Oklahoma. I stand with them and they hate what he’s become
Women power......I'm in........Houston..We are receiving you.
All these anti Newssom
@rlritt Maybe your just anti democracy 🤷♂️
I’m anti racism. I’m anti white men aligning themselves with racists to get votes. I’m anti white supremacy
💯Agree
Did you ever consider your attitude is the reason the Dems keep losing? Reading your self-righteous posts isn't making me more likely to vote Dem.
I don’t understand why he chose this route. It feels very anti-black
What don’t you understand Connie?
He’s platforming people who are anti black. What are we supposed to think? If you support racists should we not assume? Trump is literally getting advice from Laura Loomer, is she next on Gavin’s podcast?
Or, as he says, he's trying to learn more about them. And giving us the opportunity to learn more about them. So we can see for ourselves how disgusting they are in a civil conversation. You can't beat an enemy you don't understand.
It looks that way. Anyone who doesn’t support the 92% is anti-black
Yea he played his cards wrong. Kamala wasn’t a bad candidate. This country is just misogynistic. Hillary was the best candidate we ever had and I bet Gavin criticized her too!
And if he ran and won the nomination?
Did he apologize for throwing Trans Americans under the bus by capitalizing to the spurious right-wing talking point of Trans athletes competing? This issue is a total diversionary tactic and is a fascist way of scapegoating Trans Americans. Today Shitler declared war on Trans Americans and Trans youth specifically. I'm so disappointed in Newsom. Really expected better from him.
I agree
We must remember that Trump’s intelligence has NEVER been on the "high" side. He's a bully - plain and simple. As with most bullies, the need to be dealt with head-on.
Another day in paradise:
This administration is run by an ass-clown with a forever victim complex, full of paranoid revenge. No one has enough spine to stop him. The whole planet held hostage to whims of a madman. And now everyone, even the penguins, are getting tariffed up the ass. No matter how much he talks up how great things are & will be, economists and historical experience demonstrate otherwise. And we can see with our own eyes.
Lies are truth with this sociopath. "The emperor’s clothes are so lovely.”
Ignorant propagandized voter base = fascist's dream
I could fuckin scream.
He can talk about unification all he wants, but that’s not what this is really about. MAGA isn't interested in collaboration or treating all Americans with equality and respect. Their brand of "conservatism" has veered away from serving the people and now seems more focused on harming them.
The idea that Democrats lost because of "identity politics" is a tired, deflective argument—akin to saying we shouldn't have fought for desegregation because one party opposed it and we should’ve been more diplomatic. That’s not how human rights work.
So while I understand Newsom's claim that he's using bipartisan diplomacy to open up conversations, it rings hollow. It feels like he's playing into the same political theater that got us into this mess in the first place.
Conservatives have shown they won’t protect our climate, our environment, our people, or our future. They're clinging to a past rooted in exclusion and are increasingly pushing an agenda that resembles Christofascist white supremacy. We must not align ourselves with that. We must stand firmly apart.
Exactly this.
Sorry but his response is weak. He SHOULD have pushed those guys on their lies. He let Bannon say the election of 2020 was rigged and Trump won. At the very least Newsom could have said that's not true. And he spends all his time saying he appreciates people. We are so over spineless Dems. He's the worst. He's spineless and oily. Him letting those Maggots plow him with lies is the problem.
Wish I could get behind you on this, but fuck him.
TAKE IT BACK!
It’s time. Time to rise up and take back this democracy before it’s too late.
To every GOP & MAGA MF responsible for the 30+ year theft of wealth, power & democracy from the people, we will take it back.
Hey DEMS, INDEPENDENTS & non-MAGA GOP, time to tell Trumpler, Elmo & his Nazi teens, MAGA and Project 2025 we see you and your lies, we don’t want it and we’re taking it back.
SENATORS DO YOUR JOB.
33! THERE ARE 33 VERTEBRAE IN YOUR SPINES. GET ON YOUR KNEES, COLLECT THEM AND REINSERT IN YOUR CORES. NOW!
DEMS, GROW A SET. GET TOUGH. BE RUTHLESS LIKE THEM. NOW!
Great governor in a really effed up time. We appreciate your demeanor. Thank you for standing tall.
Careful, though Dems have been naive and lacking in imagination on GOP morph to fascist MAGA party, Dems not toxic. They operated with great naïveté.
We must stand up, throw sand in gears, lean in and let rogue wing-nut SCOTUS and MAGA Congress know we’ve got our eyes on them and we’re not letting them flush Lady Liberty over the cliff into full authoritarian oligarchical kleptocracy.
Well said. Newsom is truly misreading the moment. It is imperative it is to stand up and fight fascism at every turn.
Newsom lost all credibility when he decided to throw trans people under the bus at a state level and helping amplify MAGA propaganda. He’s also squashing bills pro-LGBTQ behind the scenes. Trans people are about 1% of the population - they are not the reason democrats lost en masse.
I have a feeling he’s cozying up to these bigots because he thinks it’ll help him in a possible run for president. News flash - they will never vote for you.
Pushing back against lies and bigotry is your fucking job as a leader.
THIS.
Hard No on that guy.
I understand Gavin's point. We are a nation of both sides. When you govern you have to listen to all sides. For people to get upset that he will communicate with everyone is a little unfair. He is the govenor of California , the entire state. Not just the liberal community.
Problem is just that the other side will not listen to us and when they are in total power there is only one side left and that will be them.
Nope