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We are 15 days into the Trump administration, and I'm going to go on record here with my partner in crime, Karen Friedman Ignifolo, on the midweek edition of Legal AF. I will say that Donald Trump has accomplished more negative things and chaotic things in the first 15 days than any president in history. What are we watching?
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We're watching a administration already crumble and circle the drain. A Department of Justice for Donald Trump, if you can call it that, that is losing rapidly credibility in front of every federal judge they've appeared in front of. And that's not saying that that's saying a lot because there are 30 people
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two suits that have been filed against the Trump administration in federal courts around around the nation, half of which are in the District of Columbia, which means look for the revenge of the Joe Biden appointed judges and those who who handled the Jan six cases. This is their moment. This is what we're watching.

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Patty Rons's avatar

Can’t we file a class action lawsuit against Elon for sharing our social security numbers and information, with 6 young men, with zero security clearance???!! I am furious!!!

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Theresa McGuire's avatar

We need an immediate stop to Elon and his computer geeks to stop AND we need every computer checked for transferred/downloaded/changed information.

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Patty Rons's avatar

This is exactly correct!!!! This is a definite breach of our privacy!!!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Ed Garland's avatar

Trump doesn't believe in privacy except where he and his filthy operatives and family members are concerned. "Immunity for me. None for thee!" is his motto and we have the stupid SCOTUS to thank for that.

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Lulu Manus's avatar

That's right. These computers must be seized and impounded.

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Michael Stayton's avatar

Nope. Then no one would get any money from the government. Get the source code that the boys changed and court order that the changes be removed. I am retired mainframe programmer. It is not the hardware you want. It is the code, the instructions that cause the damage, you want.

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Susan's avatar

Yes, exactly. I too just retired from a mid-range computer system at a large company. One of the things Heather Cox Richardson posted about when WIRED exposed some of the information about Elon's guys, was that the one guy, who just quit and ran away supposedly, was writing code on a production system in a way that would make it difficult to just reverse. And also that a long planned upgrade of Treasury is about to occur and they are not sure how those changes will work together. That is a big 🚩.

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Sylvia Arrowood's avatar

I'm just posing something hypothetical. What if there was a code that could be placed into muskrat's files to mess things up for them? What if there was a team of programmers who could sort things out? Or get into Russia's systems?

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Ed Garland's avatar

Brilliant. Thank you.

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Adam Knight's avatar

Muskrat's rent boy's ....Are these the same ones that got DONvict the WH?

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Laura Maxon Brackett's avatar

We should always use Do old name when we talk about Musk. Donold is behind it. They just letting Elon take the hits so donolds ratings don’t tank

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Sylvia Arrowood's avatar

Donald's ratings are tanking. I don't think Donald has the wherewithal to decide anything. Muskrat and Russia are behind everything. This is a full out coup.

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Kenneth Boyle's avatar

Trump is completely out of his depth, he probably hasn't a clue what is going on. The Republicans if the had any sense or a spine would realise that this coup isn't in THEIR interests either!!

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Ellen CW's avatar

Exactly!

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Ed Garland's avatar

Of course, you're right. The problem is Musk bought himself a president who has given him leeway to do as he pleases. Now Trump hides behind Suzie Q. as he tries to extricate Musk who has well overstayed his welcome.

The problem is how can Trump get rid of him when he's got receipts on what he's paid and to whom he's paid for access to American citizens. Trump is a prostitute who sold us out and now we have three whores in the WH.

Note: Your guess as to who the third individual is. I suspect that person has long since been identified.

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Lea's avatar

I am enraged.

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Patty Rons's avatar

Honestly, I’ve NEVER been more outraged!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Adam Knight's avatar

S Korea ARREST Dictators!!

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Bonnie Ramos's avatar

I have been for days and I feel confident that lawsuits will be filed.

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Leah Baum's avatar

Me too.

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Susan's avatar

One of whom has, per WSJ today, fled after he was exposed as a Nazi. Same guy was the one reported by "Wired" to be the one hacking Treasury payments.

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MM Harris's avatar

Maybe the younger ones, esp mr. just graduated from high school, will be scared and also run off. I wonder if they have ANY clue what they've involved themselves in. Hoping their parents (if previously supportive) are joining the ranks of other orange voters who have now awakened to their new reality and will tell them to get their butts back home..

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Ed Garland's avatar

Trump loyalists would wipe out their parents and siblings at Trump's order. That's the sad reality of where we are today. This is Trump's Third Reich and we are supposed to be the "new" Germany. Well, the best-laid plans of mice and men ...

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

I am highly skeptical that any of the orange voters have "awakened to their new reality." What could bring about this awakening if all they watch is Faux News. If they are like the orange voters that I know, they only believe what is on Faux News. In their minds everything else is a lie. The only ones who might possibly have an awakening are the people who decided not to vote.

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Michael Stayton's avatar

They have at least two direct interactions with the Federal government. And both concern the Treasury Department:

1) With the IRS to pay income taxes AND TO GET REFUND CHECKS.

2) With the SSA to get SSI and SS payments.

If Elon and Lost Boys have messed with either, then may become 'woke'. Or just accept it as one of the 'pains' Trump said they would have. Plus higher gas and grocery prices. Then how long will they accept the 'pain'.

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MM Harris's avatar

I know what you mean, but we're beginning to see interviews of former trump supporters who are facing a PERSONAL reality. I saw one of a teacher who'd just learned about the dismantling of the Dept of Education. She's worried she'll lose her job and is angry. Several more of the same (but diff issues). Low info voters. People need to wake up; too bad they didn't BEFORE they voted, but the post vote "awakening" could be very useful..

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MM Harris's avatar

Yes! I saw/heard more details about them earlier this evening. Lovely, aren't they?? Beyond parental "advice" . . IF the parents are appalled (but maybe they're the influencers; who knows?) I do like the idea of exposing them....

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Adam Knight's avatar

Poooootins boys all ready to commit the biggest heist in history for Muskrat!

Can we freeze the bank accounts of DONvicts whole administration?

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Bonnie Ramos's avatar

These young men are 19-23 years old! It’s crazy!

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Patty Rons's avatar

And they need to be held accountable. 💯💯💯💯💯

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MM Harris's avatar

It's interesting that the oldest one left already. Hmm... love to hear the story about that...

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Adam Knight's avatar

JAIL FODDER!

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Divebus's avatar

The jailhouse gangs would love them some fresh Sallys.

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

Thanks, Patty Rons, I was thinking the same thing!

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Patty Rons's avatar

I’m doing everything I can, but we need an attorney to help us all. I’m calling mine tomorrow. This is complete theft of our information. 💯💯💯

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

It sure is!

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

Patty Rons, please let us know what you find out from your attorney. Thank you!

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Kim Hart's avatar

HIPPA

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MM Harris's avatar

Yeah. So I'm just gonna go ahead and send my income taxes right on in.... (STRONG sarcasm..)

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Oaktown's avatar

Hope you share what your attorney advises to those of us who can't afford one. Here is a rare instance where we KNOW who conducted a cyber attack -- on no less than the financial hub of our government -- so why haven't they all been arrested?

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MM Harris's avatar

The people who'd ordinarily do any arresting WORK FOR THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION!. I have no idea how many in such a position are from the Biden era or new hires. If the latter, their belief system is sure to match that of their "masters". If holdovers, what a horrible situation to be in.

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Oaktown's avatar

Was thinking Patel still hasn't been confirmed and don't know about the one in charge now; but I'd think the agents would be happy to arrest them.

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Oaktown's avatar

What about the FBI?

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MM Harris's avatar

The FBI is under extreme attack. Blanket offers to "resign now and we'll pay you to up to Sept w/ benes" but specific people named for termination are those who worked on identifying and prosecuting Jan. 6 insurrectionist (who trump pardoned and sprung out of prison his first day). The FBI now reports to the new administration. I don't know who would give them orders to do the arrests of their new bosses.

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Michael Stayton's avatar

That so called 'buyout' has a TRO (Temporary Restraining Order) against it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU5uNOv-VU8

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Oaktown's avatar

You're right of course. It's terrifying me; keep grasping at straws. Who knows what Musk and that coder already planted and downloaded, but I think it's everything. I can't get over the fact there was no armed security guarding the area.

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Kim Hart's avatar

HIPPA

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Wendell's avatar

If there's a law firm willing to take on such a case, which I'm sure they are chomping at the bit to do so.

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Ed Garland's avatar

Exactly. Or, how's about a mutiny against the whole fam damily? They're crooks--every single last one of 'em.

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Ellen CW's avatar

I agree Patty Rons, I am just as furious!!

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Michael Stayton's avatar

I agree.

1) Elon and 6 young men: When I first heard about this I made an association: Peter Pan and the Lost Boys. Especially when Peter was jumping on the campaign stage trying to fly.

2) Criminal charges against them all including Scott Bessent. The Lost Boys will become truly lost in the system. Of course, we need a real working FBI and DOJ. Note: Statute of Limitations is usually five years. February 2025 + 5 = February 2030. If elections still have any meaning and the Democratic candidate wins in 2028, then Elon is deep trouble.

3) I get my SS check this week. I know how much it should be. If SS checks are missing money, then a class action lawsuit against the defendant Elon. On behalf of the 60M+ Social Security recipients. Punitive penalty would be $1000 per month per recipient for each month that the checks are incorrect. Even to Elon that is lot.

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Adam Knight's avatar

Haul DONvict & Muskrat TO court & arrest his rent boys!

Judges Vs DOJ

WHAT CREDIBILITY?.

GET THE MILITARY TO SECURE THE WH & BARR DONvicts TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE US

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Dwina B. SHE/HER/USAF VET/🎓🧘🏽's avatar

Sounds reasonable to me!

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Milissa Magwood's avatar

Why would anyone think that a criminal, convicted felon, rapist would care about consent and acts of kindness?

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Mike knox's avatar

This is what you get when you let criminals get away with their crimes

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MorningStar's avatar

Exactly! We have no one to blame but ourselves.

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Christa Byrd's avatar

Blame the cowards in the Republican Party! No brain, no courage, no spine, no shame! They are to blame if our democracy dies! John McCain is turning over in his grave! SHAME ON YOU!

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

No...blame MAGA and the lame Trump ass kissing GOP!!!

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Mike knox's avatar

And the glacial speed of our so called justice system.

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Sue McAulay's avatar

I didn't vote for the felon. I'm not blaming myself!

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

I am accepting no blame whatsoever for this dumpster fire in the works to dismantle our democracy. Pointing fingers now does no good, but I did my part to keep Dumpster from being re-elected.

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

It’s time for accountability

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Sonya Anderson's avatar

DOGE is Trumps attempt at another coup.

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Anne Elizabeth Ruhr's avatar

Now that you state thing that way, I think you hit the nail on the head. He knew he had to find another way. This is how that looks. How dare he???

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MorningStar's avatar

Musk has all the money in the world, that's how.

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MM Harris's avatar

DOGE is just another way the orange scourge can make ugly things happen and then when they fall apart he can accuse others of doing the dirty thing, then throw them under the bus. It's just how the rolls..

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Anna Kingry's avatar

Trump knows nothing about anything and only has half-sense. The crooked Repubs are using his popularity and ignorance to stage a coup of the federal gov't since they were inexplicably successful at taking the Presidency twice.

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Norma Montanez's avatar

Vance is laying low so when Trmp gets impeached he says he had nothing to do with the mess.

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Susanne P Connor's avatar

The SLUGS CANNOT HIDE

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Anna Kingry's avatar

Vance is Heritage Foundation's boy. But they couldn't get him elected. Trump was their stalking horse to get Vance, Vought, and all the other totalitarian toads into power.

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MorningStar's avatar

Yeah, Vance is laying low alright, with his bottle of hootch! Drunk azz that he is. I said it before, I can't wait until he shows up at a Congressional meeting full-on drunk!

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MM Harris's avatar

R U thinking about hegseth or does vance have the same reputation?

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Phgladko's avatar

Impeach them both. We need a counter coup fast!!

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MM Harris's avatar

Yep. He's at least smart enough to know he can just sit back and wait for the implosion. Pretty sure P2025ers are ok with this because they can run vance around even easier. The guy is in so far over his head.

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Anna Kingry's avatar

Trump was their useful idiot to capture the Presidency.

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Oliver's avatar

From the very beginning, our German government and our press have seen Project 2025 as a repeat of 1933.

Democracy is being used to destroy it and to install a dictatorship.

You in America must wake up quickly and prevent this.

Stay together.

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MM Harris's avatar

Yes you are right and we know. MANY lawsuits filed already against all the illegal maneuvers, and rallies all the across the country yesterday - 50K in DC alone. Thanks so much for your support. It means a LOT!

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Oaktown's avatar

Wise advice. Thank you. Been watching YouTube videos from WWII and reading about the rise of the Nazis since 2016. So many parallels. Many Americans don't think it could ever happen here, but it's happening right now. Started with the Supreme Court presidential immunity decision. Tech bros and billionaires are trying to rule the world with cyber weapons and surveillance devices invisible to us; we've lost our privacy. Very, very scary.

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Amy Hower's avatar

Jd Vance is probably working hard in the background to keep pushing project 2025 forward and helping with illegal EOs

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julie gritten's avatar

Why can’t the 25th amendment be initiated now rather than later? It’s obvious he is out of his mind and out of control. We all know he’s a lunatic

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Doug's avatar

I agree but look at the line of succession we will have to get rid of JD lying pants. Than Mikey Christian nationalist speaker we would have are hands full. That being said that whole Republican party is very corrupt.

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MM Harris's avatar

You need a ton of dept heads to agree..... of course, several really ONLY want power and might agree in order to get the orange guy out of the picture.... will be interesting to watch, ... and ...... as others are saying, look at the line of succession..

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

One thought is that they are waiting for Dumpster to get his entire Cabinet in place before they hit the 25th Amendment button.

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Terry Pool's avatar

Is MAGA waking up? Yet. I think trump et al w p2025 is trying fast to take over enough to create a situation that can't be reversed when MAGA gets their reality hit

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WJB Motown's avatar

You nailed it. The planning for the 2025 coup has been going on for a long time. It took years to plan, stockpile men and supplies, train for D Day. The actual battle took place in only a day.

The Trump-Musk-GOP Axis of Evil is using decption, speed, planning and training to pull off the coup quick and fast.

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MorningStar's avatar

No. No! This is how dumb they are. They have no interest in knowing THEY will be affected right with us. All they say is Dems are crying...does that make any sense to you? Wait until we act on this and MAGA won't know what to do if the federal govt openly weaponize against us!

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MM Harris's avatar

TONS of rallies at state capitols across the nation yesterday.... the head of Indivisible said 50K in DC alone (and on hardly ANY notice)

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WJB Motown's avatar

Heritage and the horrific right wing "brainwashing" tanks...........are proving they do not give a s#it about MAGA.........definatly.

Maybe when their own kids start to die........thanks to conspiracy moron Kennedy........they may change their diapers and remove the maxi-pads from their heads........check in with the real world.

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disciple54Jil's avatar

We are watching a regime of dumbf*kery - that's WHAT

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Wendell's avatar

The courts are doing their job (thank God) and now it's time for everyone in this comment section to do theirs...VOTE OUT THE REPUBLICANS IN THE MID-TERMS. I'm a non-partisan voter, I'm no fan of Dems or Republicans, but it seems like the Dems are the only ones looking to protect the American people and preserve democracy. A total of 90 million people did not vote in the 2024 election, I'm going to assume those zombies will now wake up and see the error of their ways.

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Looks to future's avatar

Vance is waiting for the 25th!! That was the whole plan from the get go!! Vance is waiting for the "People " to say Save us, JD from this idiot. Vance would be worse!!

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Wanda_46's avatar

✔️💯AbsoFREAKINGlutely❗USAflag💙

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

The Magats do not know enough to ask to be saved from this implosion of our democracy at the hands of the Mumps. How would they know we are a disaster in the works if all they watch is Faux News. I wonder how Faux is spinning this dumpster fire. Well, one exception, of course, could very well be the price of eggs which was a major, major issue with one family member. That in and of itself could be enough to send the Magats screaming to JD to save them.

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Bonnie Ramos's avatar

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you and this podcast. I am 71 years old and my anxiety has been through the roof to the point I have had to start taking muscle relaxers because I am so tense and it is causing a lot of physical pain. Thank you so much! I’m so happy I’m in tears! 🥹❤️

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MARY T. ENOS's avatar

Thanks Popok and Karen for all the difficult work you folks go through to get the truth to us. It is a shame that the MAGA idiots are what they are and now are crying and complaining that their loved idiot is turning on them. Whatever were these people thinking voting for a deranged predator and sex offender. This idiot's body never contained a spot in it for "Empathy"..instead it grew with narcissistic personality disorder veins.

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

FBI makes a plea to stop targeting the J6 Agents doing their job, it’s being reported on Deadline Whitehouse

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

They are reporting this on Deadline Whitehouse and Legal AF

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pam cone's avatar

The process doesn't move if citizens don't rise in support of it.. but we are

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Phgladko's avatar

Insufferable selfish magamorons didn't think about how this would affect US citizens living or visiting overseas. Any one of our citizens could be taken as a result of Trump's reckless actions. Musk should have his citizenship revoked and he should be deported immediately. Trump blew a gasket over Jack Smiths appointment, yet we're supposed to accept musk's ravaging the government? FDJT and FEM, deport him now!

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

They are enacting Project 2025 right in front of us

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Phgladko's avatar

Like we knew they would. We warned the maga base and they accused us of TDS. They said Project 2025 wasn't a thing and trump didn't know anything about it.

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Diane Newman's avatar

Great having lawsuits- what damage will the felon and muskrat do in the years it takes to try these court cases. Each day, each hour and sometimes minutes he destroys more.

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Leslie's avatar

You are 100% correct

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Political~Witch0's avatar

What trump is doing is treason against our nation and any complicit GOP members, this is a coup and it needs to be stopped and they need to be held accountable so this NEVER EVER HAPPENS AGAIN

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Anna Kingry's avatar

Waiting to vote him out is not the answer. We need law enforcement. We need to contact our representatives and strongly urge them to stop this take-over to implement an all-powerful executive branch.

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Kimberlee Avery Wilkins's avatar

Dumpster and his ilk need to be stopped now !

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

I can’t stand Trump

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Amy C's avatar

This is a continuing saga of court case after court case, rinse and repeat. Donvict was given approval to continue his J/6 rampage being handed the keys to the Whitehouse with a handshake.

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nukepower's avatar

Why is the limit on our info read only?.

Musk and his goons shouldn't have any kind of access to our data.

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Pamela Fender's avatar

Don't be surprised if Elon has all the information and will use it as blackmail. Nothing would surprise me.

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Lulu Manus's avatar

DOGE is essentially Elon Musk's slush fund.

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Anna Kingry's avatar

Important to keep pointing out that it doesn't have authority to do anything. Law enforcement is negligent because of being confused by a criminal President. They need to get their heads together.

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Diane Gordon's avatar

I pray that more GOP voters will turn on Trump, his "policies" and his unelected parasite Musk

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

Let's be real. How can we expect Trump voters to turn on him? We know all they watch is Faux News. Wonder how they are spinning this dismantling of our democracy? For as distraught as we are watching this happen, they are overjoyed that Dump is fulfilling his campaign promises and more--well, except for the price of eggs. They will not turn on him until he messes with Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

Thank you Michael and Karen

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

Not getting accountability for J6 is sickening

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Leslie's avatar

DOGE isn’t even a legitimate agency and someone needs to speed it up removing Elon musk

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Angela4691's avatar

Entitled! I’ve fucking paid for it!

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Anna Kingry's avatar

That's what entitlement means. It's money we are owed in old age because we worked and paid into it.

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Mia Hammond's avatar

How about a Class Action Lawsuit, with the American public as Plaintiffs, against MUSK? Sue him for the last $ he has!

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Jan Gallegos's avatar

It’s time for the 25th Amendment!

Before he kills us all! I hope the GOP regime gets voted out. They are ALL traitors!!

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ErikaRickyBelk's avatar

I Love MTN across the board. Everyone of their people they gather to comment and everything just like straight up good democracy everything I love it I share it with my family in Norway just so you know.

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Donna R.'s avatar

The information has already been stolen by Musk and his 3 teenagers. They need to go to jail. We need to demand the 3 names of these 3 kids. We will most likely win some court battles but we need to win the WAR!!! Vought is extremely dangerous for OMB. He's one of the architects of project 2025.

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Bonnie Ramos's avatar

Yes he is!!!

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Bonnie Ramos's avatar

We are watching the implementation of Project 2025 along with the narcissism of Donald Trump.

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Chohni Baird's avatar

Great podcast 👏 Thank you!

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Laurie Redston's avatar

Login for VA system today required DMV license: front and back!! Never before! WT? This is so wrong!

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Anne Elizabeth Ruhr's avatar

I still don't understand why every law enforcement agency within shouting distance didn't show up to prevent Musk & his team of criminals from illegally accessing our information. That is NOT supposed to happen to us in America and we do NOT accept this breach of security.

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Anna Kingry's avatar

Americans don't think anything really bad can happen to them. The gov't has been reliable for so many years of peace, regardless of differences we might have had in the specifics. Trump was the first hint that we were not safe. Big money "conservatives" have planned this coup for decades.

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Susanne P Connor's avatar

Amen & Alleluia Prayers and Requests and TRUTH & TRUE JUSTICE ...."MINE EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY...."

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Linda's avatar

Have to say that your promotion of your law firm for insurance claims etc is creepy. I see dozens in f billboards of this type of lawyer. Incongruous, I think. Sorry

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Tim's avatar

Schoolhouse Rock does Project 2025 🧐

Injunction Junction, what's your function?

Hooking up laws in phases and pauses.

Injunction Junction, how's that function?

I got three favorite stars

That get most of my job done.

Injunction Junction, what's their function?

I got "stay", "cut", and "enforce",

They'll get you pretty far.

Injunction Junction, what's your function?

Hooking up to losers and making 'em act right.

Bilk the money, head in gutter, treason and vice.

Hey that's the price!

Dirty but scrappy, rigging and snatching,

Losing your shit for a reaction or two,

Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!

Injunction Junction, what's your function?

Hooking up laws in phases and pauses that balance, like:

Shout at the lying man and into the mire.

He cut loose the dirtbags,

But the loon wouldn't stop being a liar.

Let's jump into the fountains,

Or down on your knees.

You should always say "eff you",

Or at least say "cheese".

Injunction Junction, what's your function?

Hooking up laws in phases and pauses

in prison sentences like:

[spoken] In the warnings, when I yell out it’s fake, I love to stalk the wardens who are not on the take, where I often see a cuck and a snake, and I wonder, as I stalk by, just what they'd say if they could tweet, although I know that's an absurd thought.

Injunction Junction, what's your function?

Hooking up stars and making 'em function.

Injunction Junction, how's that function?

I like tying up laws in phases and pauses.

Injunction Junction, watch that function.

I'm going to bet your scared and you're very spiteful.

Injunction Junction, what's your function?

I'm going to bet your scared and you're very spiteful.

Injunction Junction, what's your function?

I'm going to bet your scared and you're very spiteful.

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CMP's avatar

Will captions or a transcript be available?

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Anna B's avatar

Loved your sign-off! And yes, although I have never seen either of you in person and am not likely to, we're family. For me, it's that kind of connection. So, to my mind, you have an old auntie (84) in California.

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Julie Stacker's avatar

Watching from Australia. Thanks for an interesting and informative show and some real hope that lawsuits can support democracy.

Are there any challenges under the USA Privacy Act of 1974? Or under state data breach laws?

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Cindy's avatar

I just applied for Medicare. I am worried about this governmental regimen denying my life long contribution into the system, Medicare and Social Security! We paid into these insurance programs through-out our working years! Not to mention that our veterans deserve so much support and so much mental health support! Our veterans and active service members deserve our utmost respect!!

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Sandy W's avatar

What a wonderful recap of this disturbing events- so informative and heartening

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Gail Irby's avatar

Thanks, both, for the legal update!

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Leslie's avatar

Absolutely true. If we miss 1 SS check or if it’s late I’ll lose my home

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Sandee Alpern's avatar

KAREN - you missed this one - Musk can't even get a security clearance for projects involving his own company, Space-X.

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Leslie's avatar

You are giving us hope I hope you’re right and our federal judges hold the line and act swiftly with holding trumps lawyers in contempt if they don’t follow court orders

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Mt's avatar

We do have to get the message as to what’s happening out to more people. I have run into several people and in a short conversation have no idea what’s going on in our country at the moment.

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

I think a lot of people are too overwhelmed by all of this and have opted for a blackout for the sake of their own mental, emotional, spiritual and physical health.

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chev_chelios's avatar

Incredible stuff Michael and Karen......thanks for helping me get thru another day ....keep standing up and standing strong.

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Rick's avatar

Michael and Karen, you are both so knowledgeable and informative, you both do a fantastic job. This Canadian appreciates your podcasts in informative info. Take Care

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Geena Marquis's avatar

I’m beyond grateful for this run down, for your kindness and willingness to share with us.

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ErikaRickyBelk's avatar

The Mad House. We All Expected.

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Daniel Quackenbush's avatar

Trump also has absolute civil immunity for his criminal acts. (Compare, Briscoe v. Lahue, S.Ct.) I don't have much hope for the Court to uphold the Constitution. After all, Trump has the backing of the power of the military, the quintessential, core presidential actual POWER. There is no way to stop a tyrant with absolute, or perceived absolute, power. Experts on the military, should opine on how the 50 state National Guard can prepare to defy the military?

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Larry's avatar

Only Meidas is reporting the news we need to be getting! Outrageous in this Nation of expensive and widespread ‘media’. Angry!

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joybanks@earthlink.net's avatar

I love you guys. You bring realistic hope. THANK YOU. I joined and paid for a year. Hope that helps.

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Bonnie Ramos's avatar

It’s community and we all need this! Thank you!

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Joy Hoover's avatar

I'm 70 retired, I'm worried about my SS check, are we going to receive them on time or will we have to wait till all the stuff you spoke of is settled?

This is a nightmare, I've never seen anything like this. How long does it take for this mess to be put at rest?

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Rick's avatar

They're a bunch of Men and Women working tirelessly putting their lives on the line to protect the Citizens of America, and the world. They should be respected and congratulated for their work and efforts.

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Cindy's avatar

Why is Musk still walking around when he should be behind bars with NO bail!

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Steph_Annie's avatar

It's utter incompetence as well as irresponsible. Perhaps he needs some Ritlain for this impulsivity! His lack of executive functioning skills is appalling.

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Christa Byrd's avatar

What were Elon’s 20 year old hackers doing on election night?

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Bonnie Ramos's avatar

Exactly … my thoughts too!

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Shelley Greer's avatar

Please make certain that Elon is on the rocket 🚀 to Mars🙏🏻…that way it will take him a few light years, to get back…or better yet, NEVER 😃👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Marguerite's avatar

Send his ass back to Africa 🌍

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David Belton's avatar

This Australian finds Trumps lunacy very depressing .

I hope all those lawsuits succeed.

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

Remember what Judge Michael Luttig and Lawrence Tribe said about J6

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Jill Walton's avatar

That's so scary when bringing in his own laptops. Now just load all our info and walk out with all that on their laptops.

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

Be careful, here we have a felon with how many indictments against him he should have to face the J6 Rally, how do people think he is immune for inciting a coup

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

I know anytime you need to talk let me know

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

I do care about people but not those that don’t

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Scott Gruber's avatar

Michael popak I have a question for you I was wondering if you could answer this if we impeach Trump and get rid of him we obviously have to get rid of GD Vance too so we have to get him impeached as well as the whole cabinet his whole administration and start over and just have a new election how do you get rid of the whole administration at once well I guess the impeachment process would work according to this document I'm just wondering if you could read this and let me know if this would work for getting rid of all of them at once because it's never been done in history from what I can see...

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S4-1/ALDE_00000282/

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Tina's avatar

Impeachment would never happen. They have control of all 3 branches

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Scott Gruber's avatar

The only problem is by then that a lot of damage is going to be well done

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Scott Gruber's avatar

There has got to be a way I know it's never been done in history but there's got to be a way to scrap this whole entire administration and start fresh even if it's at the midterm elections you know what I mean

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Scott Gruber's avatar

Grrrr... True

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

I saw this today Trump is not a good man

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nukepower's avatar

or is he in good health look at him whenever he pops his ugly head.

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Patricia Adamo's avatar

I understand everything you’re saying, and it’s outrageous and illegal and lawsuits are being filed but what is to prevent people with law-enforcement from just grabbing mask and his cohorts and dragging them off to jail?

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Phgladko's avatar

Revoke his citizenship and he has no rights. Deport him immediately as a terrorist.

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toni jeske's avatar

I think Vance is busy with the project 25 play book.

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Anna Kingry's avatar

All of this is the Project 2025. Including the friction with our allies. They don't want our traditional allies, and certainly not allies of color.

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Dawn's avatar

Check out the National Science Foundation's list of forbidden words.

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Maria Baraboutis's avatar

Not just contempt but disbarment for each one. They will never practice law again because of Trump and Bondi should be Disbarred! She promised to follow the law with integrity. We all knew she was lying.

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

Watch "Barack vs Donald vs Melania?!😂😂😂" on YouTube......

https://youtube.com/shorts/3GlFVGQPrXo?si=1aBd2juJlMQ981on

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Ginny Ragland's avatar

I heard an awful thing about trump. It was said that the 911 disaster DJT had only one thing he had to say. Not aghast about the terrible tragedy but "NOW my Trump Tower is now the tallest. One sick son of a a gun.

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Pamela J Detwiler's avatar

I've never listened to podcasts before. But you guys have me hooked. Thanks for helping all of us through this horrific time!

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Mariamne's avatar

Will these lawsuits work? Some experts are saying the Supreme Court gave him immunity and the only thing that will stop him is a Constitutional Crisis. What is the truth?????

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Jane's avatar

I do not understand the lack of follow through - when they are told they cannot go into the sites that that they are breaching - and it is obvious that will do it anyway - which puts all our population and our government at serious risk - well - I would shut off the electricity to the entire building! NO!??

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Judy Likouris's avatar

Do you have feedback from American's about not getting their social security payments? Are there people without their Medicare? What are we hearing on the ground? What agencies have closed up because the funding is gone? Are there interviews of people out there?

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Adam Knight's avatar

Where are the Police!?????

If you & I took over the FED Accounting computers we’d be in jail within an hour!

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Gregory Amour's avatar

Now, Rubio says that he is not going to the G20. Like that's going to insult the world. But wherever there is not American influence, that leaves a space for China and other nations to get their interests at the expense of us. THE STUPIDITY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION IS UNPRECEDENTED.

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Gregory Amour's avatar

Elon Musk must have ordered JD Vance to hide behind his couch!

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Deb Sullenberger's avatar

AOC said on her podcast that the whole reason Trump is tearing everything apart is to find enough money to pay for the huge tax relief for the top 1%. He owes the oligarchs. Musk spent millions to get Trump elected.

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Doug Jones's avatar

So, let's say the court finds that Musk is instructed to leave government offices and turn over all the data he's copied from Treasury's databases? Yes, the judge can instruct the US Marshals Service to remove or arrest Musk, but what happens if Bondi intervenes and orders the Marshals to stand down. Game over. In effect, Trump can simply refuse to comply with any and all court orders.

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wagsjamie's avatar

Yes Trump is continuing to set himself up quite nicely.

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Marguerite's avatar

He's no Genius, deport his ass back to Africa. He's a thief.

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Kathey Hunt's avatar

I think that hug is empathy born of shared trauma, for lack of a better term. The woman recognized someone kin kindred.

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Mike Llewellyn's avatar

So bloomberg just did an interview with the treasury secretary. He laid out what was going on as the post federal block of doge as if it was what has been happening all along. Made it sound pretty benign post constitutional violations! pathetic. Republicans don't have a problem taking food from the mouths of starving children to save a dime. The moral majority has no morals

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Leslie's avatar

I absolutely love Legal AF and MTN I wish I had more disposable money. I don’t. At 68 I’m still working full time and depend on my SS which I’m now scared to death I may receive every month.

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Alan Mikuni's avatar

Do you foresee Trump now shifting his crosshairs to target the judges and courts?

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

Absolutely. Just think of Paul Pelosi and his fractured skull.

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Angela4691's avatar

Need to keep focus on the most impactful things

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

Totally agree. Problem is there is so much xxit flying it is difficult to prioritize.

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Angela4691's avatar

The Gaza is all about the rights of the waterway trade etc, that’s it

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

I also think developer-in-chief sees it as an opportunity to open vast real estate holdings on Gaza beaches along the Mediterranean Sea. Here is my theory. Dumpster has been in contact with Bibi since the beginning of the Hamas attacks and told him to refuse any peace settlements until he is elected because he will relocate Palestinians, develop the property, and Bibi gets a cut.

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Angela4691's avatar

He needs to go, this is insanity

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Linda's avatar

Claim, Evidence, Reasoning. That’s the main thing, as a 6th grade science teacher (now retired) I wanted my kids to know by the time they finished 6th grade science and hoped would stay with them as they moved on in their learning journey. It’s what I love about the Meidas Touch Network and what I’ve grown to love about the legal profession, at least those affiliated with MTN in some form or other. Please continue to bring us the receipts. 💙💙💙

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Linda's avatar

Why doesnt someone expose Elon Musk and his musketeers the value of space X and starlink contracts. Politico contracts are as valid as those

WE NEED TO KNOW!!

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Peter's avatar

Hi 👋🏽 😊 🇺🇸🇵🇷

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

"The First Two Weeks of Chaos: How Trump’s Actions Hurt Americans and Made Our Nation Less Safe". We will show up, speak out, and organize, to build the power to replace corrupt politicians. (PEOPLE POWER UNITED)

https://www.newsletter.peoplepowerunited.org/p/the-first-two-weeks-of-chaos-how-fae?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1499421&post_id=156637840&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=17g504&triedRedirect=true

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Sue Saunders's avatar

get those contracts out for us to see! show how much he's getting out tax $$$ from us!

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Susan's avatar

But what exactly happens if they just defy the court orders? I guess we have to wait and see who blinks first.

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Toxtli Melloh's avatar

This is criminal. He should be prosecuted along with those who gave him access to this information. No better than folks overseas trying to hack our data.

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Kim Hart's avatar

Doesn't HIPPA already make Musk's violations of privacy rights criminal?

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Peter's avatar

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Peter's avatar

I can't wait to see Donald Trump Elon Musk and the rest of the maga crew go to prison for the work they have done to this country

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Rick's avatar

If Musk is getting that much of tax payers money, isn't that a conflict on interest for the job he's doing??

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Kelley Fox's avatar

Thank you. Listening to you is tremendously helpful. Is there any legal way to stop Vought? How can we stop someone potentially in power who is on record saying he believes that the U.S.A. government is now post-Constitution? What happens if our executive branch and maga majority Senate and Congress continue acting against our Constitution?

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Kathy H's avatar

This is reassuring, that we can trust the process, that there are strong people holding to the intent of our laws. We can get behind this.

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wagsjamie's avatar

You know it is too late! People can file all the suits they want. Musk has all the info on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and online Income Tax payer citizens, and possibly more. Lawsuits won't negate that. And there is so much more. The damage has been done. Trump and Musk must go to prevent any more damage. Apparently the Congress we have elected is useless!

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ErikaRickyBelk's avatar

I'm not sure but I'm thinking that I smoked way too much pot that I don't smoke. Or any drug on Earth. Is this for real. ??

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ErikaRickyBelk's avatar

Book the 25th amendment only takes care of him how about all the other horrible minions including so-called VP

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Peggy Lou Samas's avatar

A Russian circus 🤮

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Bonnie Ramos's avatar

I am so happy he has received this conflict of interest letter. I’ve been asking this question … can he actually divest to a family member? Isn’t that still a conflict of interest?

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

What is going to happen to Ukraine?

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Janet Repucci's avatar

So glad someone is resisting. But all these cases...who pays for this?

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

I will share an article about Moscow already studying the Classified Documents from Ma Largo

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Lillian Taiz ❌👑's avatar

Attacking DEI is just another way of saying white boys are too mediocre to get the job and need to get qualified people out of their way.

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Cold and Prickly's avatar

Should we be shining a light on our own judge shopping? Isn’t that not favored?

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

Pressure on Putin after Ukraine agrees to Trump’s 30 Day Ceasefire Plan, they are talking about this on Morning Joe right now

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Katrina Billings's avatar

Thanks both - excellent as usual. Something has just occurred to me - if all the people affected by these terrble measures become homeless as Popok suspects, then they won't be able to vote! Could this be part of the plan?

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

Watch "Why I'm PISSED At My State's Government", on YouTube. (Tennessee Brando)......

https://youtu.be/Ruor-7yK-_g?si=aEgGCd5Qr4O7THGt

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

"Watch "Elon's DOGE commission suffers massive humiliation" on YouTube"......

https://youtube.com/shorts/FuzO9KowASU?si=XgZlVZobaCw8PdCS

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Laura Grier's avatar

I have a question. Since the Supreme Court has said that a president cannot be held guilty of a crime related to the duties of his office, what is the point of lawsuits? Further he can pardon anyone who crimes. I know there are a lot of lawsuits flying but to what end?

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Ginger's avatar

Good point elon gets more government money than anyone in our country

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Ginger's avatar

Who is stopping Elon... this is reprehensible

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Diana Quinn's avatar

Yes, this community has a special bond! And you guys rock!🤘

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Ed Garland's avatar

Trump playing butler to Netanyahu is a joke. Both are lawless prideful ogres. Notice, too, Bibi's health isn't quite right lately. He had surgery (type not divulged) and Trump is also not in the most robust of health. Two criminals in charge of people's lives is not a good look. Trump kowtowing to dark leaders all over the world does not bode well for the USA. We have nothing to be encouraged about unless he and his entourage including Vance are done away with. They all deserve to be in prison.

Incidentally, Sadam thought he was invincible too. He also had two sons. Today they are no more and the people rejoiced at their departure. We have a rogue leader in the driver's seat and he has put lawless unqualified loyalists in positions of power for one reason only--to reign and rule over America.

Note: I saw something about Hawley and Sanders going after bank interest rates. Neither of them has my vote. I can't unsee Hawley running for safety with a raised fist during JAN6 nor can I unsee Bernie's wife who embezzled funds from a private college to the tune of it dissolving without consequence to Bernie or his lying thief wife.

So whatever this duo is proposing isn't for the people. Rather, it's to keep them looking like they GAD about us. From their actions, it's clear that they care about staying in DC and collecting a salary and benefits many Americans could only dream of.

I'm calling BS on their latest disingenuous tactic. I see no value in supporting either of them. My wife frequently reminds me "There are no paupers on Capitol Hill." As usual, she's right as rain (again)!

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Dai McClymont's avatar

Much as I find negative comparisons with my home country hurtful, I must warn that in 1948, when the National Party (Apartheid) came to power in South Africa, they went to town in politicising the Public Service. They were aggressive about it in their own way. As a for instance: my father in law had volunteered for military service at the beginning of WW2. AS late as the 80s, he had his seniority in the public service withdrawn because he had "served in Smuts's Army."

Americans can be as smug as they like about Musk's implied Apartheid associations, but they are watching their own government do even worse to Americans. For the love of God, please learn from our history.

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Judy Likouris's avatar

Whoever was in charge, should have called the police to arrest Elon right on the spot. He has no papers for clearance to go in and do what he did. It should have stopped him immediately.

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Kim Ah Choy's avatar

Thank you both!!

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Shirley Ann Gassner's avatar

cbplkn n

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Max P.'s avatar

Please allow me to introduce myself, I’m a man of wealth and fame.

Meet the brainwashers…

https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no

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Debra Whitehead's avatar

Great info and narrative. I really appreciate the updates on what’s happening in the courts and the lesson on TROs and such.

AOC spoke a couple days ago about the strategic timing of musk’s invasion and trespass; this context helped me a lot: trumps tax cuts for the rich meet their sunset in 2025! As I understand AOC’s message, musk is working furiously to keep those tax cuts and grow them. That means he has to find $4T so the oligarchs can pocket our cash from the treasury.

I love Timothy Snyder’s car analogy from this past weekend! AOC showed us the math.

AND there’s the bluster: confuse us so we’ll give up and obey, even though they have NO RIGHT to be doing what they’re doing.

Good job tonight. Thank you. And maybe add in a little more “why” like the above?

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Marcia West's avatar

My question is --- will Trump abide by court orders if he doesn't win?

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Bill Belanger's avatar

Have you folks seen the YouTuber Justification for Musk? Here’s what to look for. Just screen shots.

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gerri caldarola's avatar

Excellent today -- thanks. How about a class action lawsuit representing early-Alzheimer patients approximately $325,000 who get Social Security, Medicare and maybe in some cases even disability but who are not eligible due to age.

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Keith Denning's avatar

Why is the email for the White House shut down?

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Bambi Vargo's avatar

try googling "contact donald trump".

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

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Tony's avatar

He’s not lost it; he’s doing this on purpose.

He wants to destroy the USA & rebuild it his way. And “his way” is that the average American will be battered worker bees, with no freedom, & no choices. If we don’t submit, he’s showing us how we’ll be punished, like Gitmo.

He and his million/billionaire cronies will rule the broken-down American Citizens.

And it feels like we are not doing shite to stop it.

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Victoria's avatar

We know he lost it a long time ago. And yes the alternative is JD Vance, where is he been? Preparing to be the US president, having created the project 2025 intro. Why is Greenland precious metals under those melting icebergs important?. Canada same same. Well I do have hope for the federal judges, I know that Donald Trump an adjudicated rapist convicted felon and fraud has no regard or the law for the courts. Please, please somebody give me some hope here. I'm calling my friends in Mexico and Canada to see if I can sleep on their couch. Talk is talk and I hope that somebody is listening to independent, Pro democracy Networks. Still legal AF, I hope you are correct. Thank you for what you do.

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Wendell's avatar

The tactic Diaper Don and Elongated Muskrat is using should be familiar to those that fought in WWII...BLITZKRIEG.

This should not have surprised anyone.

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Ms. Terry's avatar

You guys and girls are the BEST. Thank you for your awesome reports and podcasts! I love gifting subscriptions to my friends and family!

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MM Harris's avatar

All these lawsuits are encouraging but WHAT IF THE PRESIDENT/S DO NOT HEED THEM AND JUST CONTINUE BREAKING THE LAW???? I know We The People have to all show up x 1,000 in every way possible, but other than that, what recourses are there? No "calvary" to send in!!!!

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Dave Cassenti's avatar

Sounds like a Christmas Carol. 32 lawsuits, 4 TROs and a preliminary injunction.

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Alan Mikuni's avatar

I respect the optimism about the suits being filed against Trump/Musk, but worry that they can now focus their energies on destroying all that remains to constrain the lawlessness and cruelty. We need to safeguard our judiciary.

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Mark's avatar

It's hard to believe that we even have to play this legal chess game to prove the existing rule of law.

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Erik Gregorie's avatar

I, as a drowning man the current sea of corruption and disinformation ( lies ), so very much appreciate the life saver thrown, dare I say the life boat built, that Micheal and Karen offer each week. I only hope to soon crawl up on sunny Midterm Beach and rest for a bit.

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Meemaw's avatar

They think they can put a torch upon our most sacred document..instead they ignite a very flame, within all of us

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laila almasalkhi's avatar

Girl what are doing here you need to get our boy out of jail

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Peter's avatar

And I'm trying to figure out how come they're not deporting the Amish but here they want to deport Puerto Ricans and Mexicans and everybody of color in the state that I live the Amish live pretty good they got cars they have everything they get government assistance and they don't even have papers I went to get help with heating assistance because I'm disabled and I qualified for it and there are about 60 amish people in line And they were taking care of them first before they took care of the brown and the black people

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Susan's avatar

Never heard of any Amish person accepting government assistance, nor do they drive.

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Peter's avatar

Another thing that I wanted to mention Karen and friends is that we try to post stuff to share it and Facebook and other platforms not all of them are blocking us from doing it especially in red states I feel that they are monitoring everything they're doing it's not like before Will we were able to have freedom of speech and freedom of sharing our thoughts with friends and neighbors and the world they're trying to limit us so they'll be less info out there

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Melody L Wollan's avatar

Karen, you are amazing!!!

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Judy's avatar

Any bets on when the impeachment happens?

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joybanks@earthlink.net's avatar

I just did. See below.

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Lea's avatar

I want to watch the one w Jim Acosta, where is it?

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Melody L Wollan's avatar

I love the two of you together going over these cases and teaching us what they mean and what is likely to happen. Thank you for your efforts and the time you put into this. You are my "must watch" podcast pair.

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

"Let's Do This: All the Lawsuits Against the Trump Administration, Listed. Here are lawsuits on 15 different issues, that I could find news stories about".

(Chris Bowers/Wolves and Sheep)......

https://wolvesandsheep.substack.com/p/lets-do-this-all-the-lawsuits-against?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1017039&post_id=156560859&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=17g504&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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Barbara Gierzak's avatar

Watch "💥Amy Klobuchar just EVISCERATED Trump & his clowns 🤡" on YouTube......

https://youtube.com/shorts/k6cnzEWRevs?si=Fn_7WDAveidQT5jv

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Jon Bluth's avatar

Just think - by now Musk's team could have taken all the data they wanted, and further access is more theater than purposeful. If so, they could use AI to mine it in the basement, nothing and no one to track their activities or purposes. If I was an evil corporate villain with extremist mouths to feed, that's what I would do.

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Nancy weinstein's avatar

Isn’t Trump acting like Putin treasonous?

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

Thank you

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Teresa Johansen's avatar

I am a proud Democrat and these guys in Trump’s Administration want retribution

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two suits that have been filed against the Trump administration in federal courts around around the nation, half of which are in the District of Columbia, which means look for the revenge of the Joe Biden appointed judges and those who who handled the Jan six cases. This is their moment. This is what we're watching.