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Mike Hammer's avatar

Musk is a psychopathic criminal immigrant and needs to stay the hell out of our politics. His support for the right wing party in Germany and donating millions to Susan Collins in Maine as well as other states should alarm us all. Where is ICE to deport him when we really need them.

Linda (Evanston IL)'s avatar

We are hoping voters detest Musk and DOGE so much his interference will get voters out in record numbers. Musk, with his many children with various women should also influence voter’s decisions. He is truly despicable.

Hound's avatar

The problem with elections becomes the MAGATS. These people are not conservatives because they don’t even know what conservatism is. They are fine with the Republican borrow and spend way of destroying the economy and the country. They are too stupid to know that interest on the attack goes into the pockets of the very people who oppress the human race.

We can debate as to whether the MAGAT is depraved and beyond any kind of redemption because they are a product of their nature. The MAGAT thrives on depravity, greed and lies. I continue to bring up the Mike Pence paradox. Here it is again.

Mike Pence who is arguably a conservative Christian and a man who doesn’t fuck around on his wife. Mike Pence is a man who followed the law on January 6 and the MAGATS tried to hang him on a gallows that they had ready for him.

The MAGAT will not vote for the person that they pretend to be. The MAGAT will vote for a Republican candidate who, has a sex scandal, cheats on his wife, hates minorities and LGBTQ, is incompetent like Trump, and hole has no redeeming moral value whatsoever. The MAGAT doesn’t even know what conservatism or liberalism is. The MAGAT is a maggot.

Sandra Przybylski's avatar

MAGA is a cult. It's a death cult. Mike Pence is no paradox. Manafort wanted Trump to choose Pence as VP. Putin was behind it. Manafort faked engine trouble on Trump's plane to get him to land in IN for a breakfast meeting with Pence. He has one brother who owns a company in Russia. Pence is an Evangelical Christian who's against abortion. He was chosen as VP to pass anti-abortion ban through SCOTUS. Mitch's job was to get Trump the most Justices on SCOTUS as possible. Pence was needed to break ties. Pence had his emails hacked by Russia when he was IN governor. He had his emails sealed under court order. What's he hiding?? There was documentation for this on the old Twitter in multiple threads.

Hound's avatar

None of that will change the fact that the MAGATS were dead set on murdering Mike Pence. Pence was selected because even a criminal like Manafort figured that Pence would attract some sincere Christian Republicans. What they didn’t know in their own delusions is that there are not any sincere Christian Republicans except for maybe one percent.

The other facts are that when it comes to women, there is no proof that Mike Pence has mistreated women. There’s more proof that Mike Pence raped little girls.

Because Mike Pence is a republican he probably is a hypocrite with that family values bullshit but that’s all Republicans. Republican voters pretend to believe the hypocrisy of Republicans. Republican voters vote for Republican candidates because they hate Democrats. They aren’t sure why they hate Democrats but they know that they do. A Republican/MAGAT is immoral and they can’t be anything but that. The point is, their hatred of Mike Pence has to do with her hatred of morality and common decency. The MAGATS perceive Mike Pence as a decent guy and that’s where they hate him. I don’t know if he’s a good guy or a bad guy. If I were to guess I would say he’s a little bit of both. I don’t believe he is pure evil like Trump and I don’t believe he is pure evil like Trump‘s disciples. I also don’t think Mike Pence is the sharpest knife in the drawer. Maybe now he realizes the complete depravity of Trump supporters and he’s probably having real cognitive dissonance because he learned everything he believed is wrong.

Christina Keenan's avatar

Musk's grandparents, residents of Canada, heard about Apartheid in S. Africa, and decided to move there. That should say it all. It would be advantageous for them and all on the backs of native Black people. He is a racist above all other things.

Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Thiel’s parents were Neo-Nazis. His father insisted he go to a school in South Africa to be taught about how to be a white supremacist in a country predominately black. Thiel and Musk started companies together. They are pariahs, reptilians, awaiting to gobble us all up!

Oaktown's avatar

And Shady Vance is Thiel's puppet. and Thiel is Altman's mentor.

Nancy Endersby's avatar

That’s why I can’t understand how Vance’s wife can stand him?

Hound's avatar

A lot of people think that Nazism and fascism and depravity is something people learn. People need to wake the fuck up. People who gravitate to Nazism and fascism Are already evil people and they were evil the moment the sperm fertilize the egg. They should’ve been aborted. This isn’t rhetoric. 4% of the human population fits the criteria known as the dark triad. These are people that have the personality disorders that make them dangerous and so undesirable they shouldn’t not be allowed to exist among humans. The only value they have that I can say would be to use them for test crash dummies and for organ donations. You’re the most dangerous creatures on earth and if we continue to tolerate their existence, they will destroy humanity like they’re doing now with climate change.

Mike Hammer's avatar

Biological mishaps in the womb no doubt combined with toxic family life.

Hound's avatar

If a sociopathic mother gets impregnated by a sociopathic and narcissistic father, the odds of them producing a sociopathic narcissistic scumbag like Donald Trump are extremely high. Bad parents often produce good kids and good parents sometimes end up having a kid that is simply no good and beyond any type of redemption. It’s the DNA.

Sandra Przybylski's avatar

You're correct. Research has shown there are certain personality types that become Hitlers. Narcissists & psychopaths are in that category. HOWEVER, I believe environment & genetics work together. Genetics loads the gun & environment fires it. Trump was babied all his life by his parents. They led him to believe he could do no wrong & gave him money to get out of trouble, which he went thru. He was a bully in his youth. Mary Trump has said he received no love from his parents. They just fed his ego.

Sandra Przybylski's avatar

Correct. Thiel followed the same path from Germany to S Africa. They are both white supremacists & anti-Democracy.

Suel J's avatar

Susan Collins should be ashamed. Accepting Nazi money.

arne link's avatar

C'mon the old tart has no shame and never has. God, how I hope that Maine sees the light and get rid of her saggy ass.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

I'm sure she is concerned.

bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

The one thing we can be assured that Susan is concerned about is her bank account

Ellie still in the mix in 26's avatar

She might waggle her finger at it before she puts it in her pocket.

T L Mills's avatar

Should be. Isn't. Her PAC, Pine Tree Results, is using Elon's filthy lucre quite happily, producing several ads that imply, suggest and/or misdirect attention at some rather shocking things--if those things were indeed true.

Since there is a very active and self-righteous contingent of Republicans legislators who are always on the lookout for things of which to accuse the opposition party and we've heard nothing about any of the instances that Susie's PAC is suggestively accusing Troy of doing, I'm guessing any instances that might have happened have been wildly exaggerated or spun 180° degrees.

There are at least two ads that outright assert quite ridiculous conclusions: that Troy Jackson--all by himself, mind you--somehow caused ALL the property taxes in Maine to rise. (Property taxes are in each individual town's purview).

And my favorite: that Troy--again, acting all by his lonesome--somehow caused the electricity rates in Maine to rise. Electrical power in Southern Maine is delivered by Central Maine Power, which is owned by Avangrid which, in turn, is owned by Iberdrola (a giant Spanish Energy corporation). Versant Power, owned by ENMAX Corporation, a Canadian energy company) delivers power to Northern and Eastern Maine. Electric delivery rates are regulated by the MPUC (Maine Public Utilities Commission and high voltage transmission costs are regulated at the Federal level by FERC. Maine does tax electricity usage, but at the same level as the state sales tax which hasn't changed in many years. The first 750 kWh delivered to each residential home each month are exempt from the state sales tax. There are other specific exemptions for off-peak space and water heating as well as low income assistance programs. Troy Jackson has little or nothing to do with electric rates in Maine.

Susie, like all Republicans in this regime, has absolutely no shame.

Catt woman's avatar

I live in Ohio. Susan Collins isn’t the only liar running for office and running tv ads full of disinformation. Husted and Ramalamadingdong tv ads are nothing but a series of lies. They somehow manage to claim both sides of issues and don’t seem to see that you can’t be both FOR data centers and AGAINST data centers. You cannot support rural health care and at the same time cut Medicare/Medicaid funding. You can’t both support public education and promote school vouchers which take money away from public education. You can’t promote closing colleges one month then deny you said it the next one. It’s like they all take their cues about honesty from the orange menace.

Mike Midcap's avatar

The heck with ICE, they’re Trump’s Thugs. Musk’s money and support means more to him and the Republican Party, than the American people, who are suffering as a result with autocratic policies imposed by Trump and his cronies.

If there’s not an agency not corrupted, have them seize all Musk’s assets in the U.S., take Musk into custody and deport him back to S. Africa, and forbid his entry into the U.S.

Wendy Shelley's avatar

Strip Musk of his fraudulently obtained US citizenship immediately. Germany’s AfD can perhaps give him citizenship if they think so little of such an honor. We sure as hell don’t need or want him! (Oh, let’s cancel his too-many government contracts!).

Thomas Thompson's avatar

They only deport the poor....

Al Reaud's avatar

But what the World should do is follow Aerosmith's advice about the rich...

Ellie still in the mix in 26's avatar

I'd reference Rousseau, but take your point.

Jane's avatar

The trouble is money talks. Money is power that overshadows ethics and common sense.

Kathy's avatar

Agree we should all be alarmed at Musk’s support of the AFD party abroad..

and for our own version here.

Trump posts Space Force uniforms derived from fascist-inspired ‘Starship Troopers’ outfits

President Donald Trump posted an image of dark “next generation” U.S. Space Force uniforms on Sunday that the text claims were “inspired by the discipline and functionality of the Starship Trooper uniform” — a design the director of the 1997 film “Starship Troopers” said was directly meant to evoke Nazis.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2026/09/07/trump-posts-space-force-uniforms-derived-from-fascist-inspired-starship-troopers-movie/

Top Rubio Aide Was Reportedly Fired by DeSantis Campaign After Sharing Nazi Symbol Video

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/top-rubio-aide-was-reportedly-fired-by-desantis-campaign-after-sharing-nazi-symbol-video/

Hound's avatar

Susan Collins is no different than any other Republican senator. She takes bribes foreigners and that should be a crime but it isn’t but if it becomes a crime Susan Collins should be hung by her ugly neck or and up under the blade of a guillotine.

There should be a bounty on Nazis. Elon Musk, Trump and Putin should be reminded of what happened to Hitler and Mussolini. Putin spends his days in underground rooms because he knows a lot of people are out to get him including his own people. The corporate billionaire class continues to build their mansions around the world and now even they are adding bunkers. Let’s hope those bunkers become their prisoners and eventually their graves.

Dawn Cali's avatar

Has anyone in Congress followed up the claims by "baby mom" Ashley St. Clair that Musk potentially manipulated some swing state elections in 2024?

Americans deserve better.

RobWhitH's avatar

No one in the media seems to care, yet it was Trump himself who said he was losing in PA and then Elon did his magic with his computers. I don't wear a tin foil hat, but I don't believe for a second that Trump would risk a fair election in 2024 when prison beckoned if he lost. I also believe that Butler "assassination" was staged, but it went wrong. No investigation. Nobody talked to the kid's parents. There was no security on that roof when it was an obvious sniper location. Everyone has to remember this: Trump will do ANYTHING to win. Anything.

Dawn Cali's avatar

Rob,

I agree with you!

It is Frightening!

Going to send this again to a few People in Congress. Wish we had a direct ear!

Americans deserve better.

Angie's avatar

There are so many sick and evil people who want to destroy the world. It’s up to us to stop them.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Has anybody mentioned to this dumb fuck that he cannot legally change the names of states and bodies of water? Guess not, they're too busy fanning the flames of fascism.

Heather.B's avatar

We have reached a point in society when one deranged criminal can just decide to rename things that have been widely known and accepted for a long time and everyone just shrugs and says "ok"... 🤦‍♀️

He wants attention. He is a truly undiplomatic and offensive person.

When is congress or anyone going to step up and take courageous action? 25th amendment exists for a reason and Trump is the reason. He's lost his mind and needs to be removed immediately. To think that taxpayers are paying for his narcissistic delusions...

The Trump presidency ends as we know it this November if people do the job. Vote!

This "Trumpkin: Orange on the outside, hollow on the inside and should be thrown out in November" t-shirt will be perfect for Halloween! 👇 🎃

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Denise's avatar

The 25th amendment can only be invoked by the VP and a majority of the cabinet. Chances of that range from fat chance to zero.

Karen Rivera's avatar

Exactly right. Even if there was a chance it was invoked, "Under Section 4 of the 25th Amendment, when the President "refutes the charges" by transmitting a written declaration to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House that "no inability exists," the President immediately resumes the powers and duties of the office." The rest of this fat chance ping pong game, with several additional provisions, " However, there's a critical caveat: the VP and a majority of the Cabinet can reassert the inability within 4 days of that declaration." It isn't ever going to work to get We The People out of this mess.

Karen Rivera's avatar

You are exactly right. To a narcissist any attention, even unpleasant attention, is all good, and what its all about.

Patti Campbell's avatar

DOWN WITH THE RUMP AND HIS EVIL MINIONS.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

The 25th amendment has nothing to do with Congress. Congress will step up when Liddle Mikey and "Invisible" John Thune are no longer in charge.

Patti Campbell's avatar

The friggin' evil fuck can sign all the documents he wants declaring name changes for buildings, bodies of water, parks, coins, or whatever. But the American people who love democracy and our country will never refer to the new names - we like the original names that have served us for decades. Hopefully his nasty stubby fingers will rot off from writing his despicable name. All name changes he make will revert back to the original names when his fat ass draws its last breath.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

I look forward to the day when everything he has renamed or built to honor himself is torn down. I think the demonstration in D.C. that day will be largest in history. I plan to be there.

Patti Campbell's avatar

What is this - I have not heard of it???

Karen Rivera's avatar

Just using his cheap Sharpie pen doesn't change all the documents, treaties, charters, and deeds. In NMs case land grants from Spain that are centuries old. Too bad, so sad, no one but his delusional Maghats think his hallucinations carry the full force and effect of law.

Patti Campbell's avatar

He is of exceedingly low intelligence!

Karen Rivera's avatar

We have had literal geniuses as our Presidents, and then we end up with this one. W.Shrub wasn't very bright either. He was so ill-spoken. They had rich daddy's, and college legacies, though, and that's what got them through

Karen Rivera's avatar

I was so surprised when he came for New Mexico. Doesn't he know our AG & the Truth Commission are coming for the former Epstein Zorro Ranch unredacted documents? He really should be more aware of whose shit list he is on before showing once again just how stupid he is. Our AG, severally, and jointly with 2 dozen other states' AGs, has successfully won nearly a billion against META; he doesn't play. He is serious about the suit he brought against Carte Blanche and the DOJ for the unredacted documents.

Patti Campbell's avatar

His I.Q. is very low .... what can one say?

ramonaj's avatar

Yes . I agree Joanne. Everyone is busy dancing around to his BS propaganda. How about focusing mainly on telling him NO YOU POS. No other President had such a learning disability. So damn sick of it.

GAIL Burgess's avatar

So much for turning down the rhetoric and helping to unite a country. Let alone typically ignoring what is Labor Day for?

William MacKenzie's avatar

Trump gains nothing by turning down the rhetoric. His blasts are intended to do what they do, elevate his offensive views.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

Actually, he would gain if he were able to do this, which he isn't. His approvals keep plunging — his "strong approval" is between 13-17% depending on the poll. Republicans rubbing are scrubbing him off their websites ands praying he doesn't campaign for them (or worse, send JD).

Pat white's avatar

musk needs to be deported back to Africa- he is trying to keep from being charged with the crimes that Trump will never charge him with. his last baby’s mother said he confessed that he got trump elected in the toss- up states by manipulating the voting machines. Somedayitwill be proven and he will be charged with all his illegal activity and go to prison.

Will DeBurgh's avatar

Musk manipulated voters. He is doing it again because taking is in his interest. We taxpayers allowed him to use our government’s contracts to become a trillionaire.

Wendy B.'s avatar

You misspelled that: "used our government's contracts to steal huge amounts of our money".

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

Musk spent a lot of money. Luckily, not all of it worked.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

Obviously this "baby mama" knows less than zero about voting systems because he did not and cannot "manipulate the machines." That is 100% false. It will never be "proven" because you can't prove a falsehood unless you are Trump, I guess. Don't hold your breath on this because you will die. What he did do, tragically, is 100% legal: pour massive sums of money into his favored campaigns. We need to repeal Citizens United, and pass something like Move to Amend which says "Corporations are not people and money is not speech."

Pat white's avatar

She was in an interview and said that he told her that he manipulated the voting in those states . I agree that Citizens United needs to be illegal. Also all thePACs that lots of wealthy people are using to hide donations to the PACs. I just hate the world in-the USA that we are leaving our children and grandchildren

Teach84's avatar

I think his comment about Democrats “not going to win” the midterms is his giveaway that he and Musk are planning to rig them, just as they rigged the 2024 election. I will tell you one thing: if the Democrats (and all of Congress) allow this to happen again, then we must rise up and get rid of every last one of them!

Abandoned Afghan Ally's avatar

I agree with your point that behind every political decision there are real people paying the price. We can talk about wars fuel prices, military numbers and political arguments, but behind those numbers there are families,workers and young people trying to live a normal life. I also believe criticism should be directed toward the decisions of the government, not toward the American people. Many ordinary Americans simply want peace, stability and a better future. that is why reporting these issues honestly matters so much

Murray Smart's avatar

REMOVE Deranged Donald and ALL his Enablers with him!!!!!! Vote them ALL out and show the him that America and the rest of the world are FED UP with him and is Massive Corruption!!! And then hold him and everyone of his Enablers.......accountable - investigations, prosecutions, jail, fines.......and force them to face the people they are Hurt and Harmed and make them Pay for their Crimes Against America and Americans and the world!!!

Patti Campbell's avatar

Maybe our military will finally stand up to his illegal orders and ship him off to Iran and let them deal with his evil ass as only the Iranians know how to do.

Karen Rivera's avatar

I am hoping the military shows their righteous indignation against how they are being treated, and steps in on behalf of We The People who have supported them, and protects us from these corrupt traitors.

Susan Raquel's avatar

Military members are standing up in one way. There is a heading of Conscientious Objector that is being used. These are not just soldiers who decided that they didn't like the military so are using it as a way to get out. These are soldiers of various ranks and years of service who cannot in good faith continue to tolerate the unconstitutional acts being committed by the military.

Karen Rivera's avatar

One of my long-time mentors was a Conscientious Objector. He served as a medic helping, not hurting, people.

Karen Rivera's avatar

Agreed. We The People can't do any of those things, though, unless we Vote Blue in Nov, in number too big to rig, or ignore. We need to win back healthy majorities in both Houses, so we work with the authority (not authoritarian) to make Change happen.

Angie's avatar

States better be ready to get around the mail-in voting problem because that fascist Red Court isn’t going to do anything to help democracy. Ben, Simon Rosenberg is doing a BIG PUSH for people to vote early where possible and mentioned your platform as one that might also help.

Karen Rivera's avatar

On September 4, 2026, U.S. District Judge Indira Talwani in Boston issued a preliminary injunction blocking the U.S. Postal Service from enforcing key parts of a rule that would have operationalized President Trump's March 31 executive order restricting mail voting. The court found the rule likely unconstitutional and unlawful, warning that enforcing it less than 70 days before the November 3 election would make voter disenfranchisement "practically inevitable." The **injunction bars USPS from refusing to deliver mail ballots that don't comply with the rule's new requirements** (ballot envelope design standards, unique bar codes, and uploading voter lists to a federal portal), though it allows states to voluntarily comply (these are expensive measures to implement - maybe Red States might do it.) **It remains in effect through the November 3, 2026 midterm election.** I always take the ballot I receive in the mail, and hand deliver it to a polling site so I can watch it being placed in the receptacle.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

If this is OK'd there's not much states can do; it's too late. We can try to appeal to people to vote other ways, but that's a heavy lift, and many can't. (Most voter right/registration groups are already doing this; I spoke with half dozen at the Labor Day Festival this afternoon. The Divine Nine are hitting this especially hard.) The positive side is that it would probably hit Republicans as hard as Democrats. But honestly, I doubt this will happen.

JoBo's avatar

In Copenhagen (4th day). When we arrived (my husband and I) last Friday, and were in the taxi to our hotel, I see an antique shop with a child size broken wood horse that says, ‘dump trump.’ We love it. This morning we walked by the shop before it was open. There is a mail slot in the door, so I left one of my cards. The ‘forgive us’ cards that say,

“I came to your country to personally apologize for the actions and policies of my government. Please know that these actions do not represent the feelings or values of many American citizens who believe in kindness, empathy, and global cooperation. Many of us are working hard to change things.

Again, my apologies. Joan B (California). ❤️

This afternoon, returning to our hotel, there are 2 men sitting outside the shop. I stop and ask if one of them happens to be the owner. The man with the beard says, he is the owner. I ask if he received the card I left this morning? He stands up and tells me he is so happy I came back as he had no way to reach me. He gives me a hug followed by a 30 minute conversation about world affairs. Peter, the owner was born and raised in copenhagen and has traveled extensively for his antique business, including many times to the US.

Bottom line: He has loved and respected America forever but somberly told us he can no longer like America. It is because of the lack of action from the people to stop this man.

I understand and worry that it will take a generation to undo the damage to our reputation and standing in the world. It’s not trump. It’s Americans.

BJ's avatar

GREAT story JoBo. I have a dear friend who is Danish and returns home every summer with her grandchildren. She relays the same sentiments and stories. GREAT COUNTRY I keep asking her why she come's back?

I have another Austrian friend that does the same. Returns home with her children for the summer. Two years ago she wrote to say, I'm not returning to the USA. And then of course you have Rosie O'Donnell and her unapparelled welcome in Ireland.

We are the laughing stock of the entire world

Loreili's avatar

November cant arrive fast enough. Get the orange demented evil p3do out of the WH.

Linda (Evanston IL)'s avatar

And send Natalie Harp off to an institution for the mentally ill.

Tess's avatar

This STUFF….is exhausting! Nursing home for this guy and prison for the rest!! (But thanks for the updates Meidas!)

Sharon Herrick's avatar

Sorry. "Shaved heads. Orange jumpsuits. Behind bars. Doing hard time. Peeing in buckets and sleeping in slime. Shaved heads. Orange jumpsuits. Behind bars. Doing hard time. For Trump and his toadies, it's the end of the line." Maybe some of this is negotiable but no nursing homes. I don't care hold old he is.

Karen Rivera's avatar

I've been thinking the NY prison where Epstein died would be good. No amenities there, and it seems the guards look the other way

Sharon Herrick's avatar

Looking at my reply, I see I'm making typos again---glad folks still seem to understand. I like your suggestion very much and am pleased to be on the same page with you. Cheers!

Karen Rivera's avatar

And I with you! We The People coming together!

Claire Lamberth's avatar

There is so much disgusting news and today is a holiday. Congress's refusal to take a stand against this corrupt felon is a sad note for all of us. There is not one sane person in the cabinet or WH who has the balls to stand up for dignity.

Not one shred of decency anywhere but the shame is ours for having him get this far. Who would have thought?

Janet Hains's avatar

Thanks, Ben, for the update. Disgusting that a widow of a deceased military member fighting in the WAR, has to fight the Pentagon regarding family benefits. Worse yet that the regime’s president refers to it all as small potatoes. Put his sons in the war in combat, would he throw them under the bus? Most likely yes. He was a draft dodger.

We will not give in or give up to the meanderings of craziness taco brains.

Time for change. Time to keep on keeping on.

Anastasia Pantsios's avatar

Yet Melanie gets $40 million sent to her bank account, allegedly for a "documentary" that grossed less than $15 million. All the wrong people are profiting.

Marliss Desens's avatar

Is Musk also funding far-right parties in Europe?

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Yes he is. Remember he has funded the Far-Right AFD in Germany? They are gaining a lot of traction.

Wendy B.'s avatar

Yes. He wants to turn the entire world into an oligarchy ruled by himself.

arne link's avatar

As a California resident, I laugh at the idea of $4.15 fuel. Where?

Patti Campbell's avatar

So sad for the prices Californians are paying!

BJ's avatar

Maybe those "Energy Drinks" Anne?