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Ed Schmidt III's avatar

Ignorant people are easy to fool, lie to, and manipulate. It doesn’t serve the Republican’s interest to have well educated people who check facts and think for themselves.

It’s in our country’s best interest to stop them, defeat them, and indict them.

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JF's avatar

Too bad it was the young, Gen Z, who voted unexpectedly for Trump. I had high hopes for them before that.

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jibal jibal's avatar

You seem to have misheard ... 70% disapproval rating among young voters.

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Susan Wellwood-Nehez's avatar

If that was actually true in November of last year, Harris would have won.

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jibal jibal's avatar

Logic failure. Many didn't vote or voted for Jill Stein.

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JF's avatar

I assume that is NOW. What I read is they went firmly for Trump in November, as Susan said. It was part of the “bro culture” movement. They’re young; maybe they have learned, but I’m not sure they will have a chance to course-correct.

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jibal jibal's avatar

67% of Gen Z males who voted voted for Trump, same as millennials. Females were a different story ... far more millennial females voted for Trump. None of this was unexpected to me.

"not sure they will have a chance to course-correct."

Oh, there's no correcting -- the fascists won, and they don't let go.

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JF's avatar

Thanks for the data. I knew that it was largely male driven phenomenon. I agree with your assessment about fascists won’t let go. I have no expectations of authentic elections going forward. They know they would lose, and they’re holding all the controls.

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Jacque DeWolf's avatar

BINGO

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Kathy H's avatar

Perfectly stated.

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Cheri Moss's avatar

Trump told them he was going to abolish the Dept of Ed. He’s not doing anything he didn’t tell them he would do! He didn’t hide it & u still voted for him. U just thought..he’ll do it to other people..he won’t do it to me!

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Lady Emsworth's avatar

Well, that's what comes when you don't have a decent education - and never learn how to apply critical thinking skills!

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Cheri Moss's avatar

I think those young people let their emotions guide them to vote as they did. They were passionate about what was happening to the Palestinian people. Much like what happened back in the 60’s with the Vietnam war. They truly voted to punish not factoring in how dangerous the orange idiot was bc they didn’t really pay attention to who Trump was. Well..they..are finding out!

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Susan's avatar

I was shocked to find out the amount of young people that voted for tRump. My daughter is 22 now, and with some of her friends it’s their first time voting. Her boyfriend’s Latino and his family came here from Mexico. One reason he gave was the deportation of “illegals” that didn’t come over legally like his family did. I asked my daughter if he realizes that tRump hates him, too. It doesn’t matter his immigration status; he’s not white. Also, the younger generations don’t remember the Cold War or tRump’s liking for Putin.

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Paul Thompson's avatar

Yes, you are so right. It is the color of their skin, and not the content of their character.

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Rachel Kamm's avatar

Not just the young people. The Muslims of Dearborn, Michigan voted against their own interests. How in the world did they forget his first action in 2017 was the Muslim Ban.

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john grisaffe's avatar

because they're are ignorant just like their orange buffoon!!!!!

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Yvonne Scott's avatar

A large number of those in Dearborn and Michigan did what y'all could have done and saved us: voted for the Green Party, not trump. Sadly even the educated still think we should have a 2party system. How is that working for you? Neither party cares about you really. They both cater and cower to their donors, corporations and AIPAC. Green Party doesn't have PAC's or corporate donors and limit individual contributions...as they all should. We don't have a democracy. We have to step outside our blind obedience to just two parties. And that's why the Dems especially do all they can to make it hard to vote 3rd party. Also Dems promise a lot and don't deliver, just point fingers at the other party. Repubs tell you exactly what they'll do and people still vote for them. Wake up folks!

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Barb O's avatar

Except the Dems do deliver. Not everything, but many things. Repubs don't know how and don't really care if they do or not. Greens are small and don't have a face to their party. Jill Stein isn't impressive.

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Cheri Moss's avatar

Jill Stein serves as a spoiler for the Rep party!

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Yvonne Scott's avatar

You are right, Barb, they did deliver big---on funding a genocide and supporting a war criminal in our Congress. My apologies.

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jibal jibal's avatar

Putin-funded disrupter blocked.

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jibal jibal's avatar

One must be profoundly stupid and ignorant to think that voting for Putin's girlfriend Jill Stein would have saved us.

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Bob Churchill's avatar

The Green party has no national power because it has no national political presence - no members of congress, no participation in influential caucuses, no governorships, no cabinet members - nuthin'. Voting Green (and I truly admire the Green ethos) for president is like voting for a telephone pole or streetlight - an exercise in futility. The way presidential power works in the USA is that a successful chief executive MUST have a cadre of powerful allies to actualize his or her agenda - lacking those powerful allies GUARANTEES that agenda will be stillborn. We need look no further than Jimmy Carter to prove this thesis - he was a Dem among other powerful Dems - but as an outsider, had not cultivated that needed cadre of powerful allies and was woefully ineffectual. The Greens - to ever have any handle on any real power MUST build a base at the school board, county commissioner, state rep level first - THEN they will have name recognition and a track record of benefitting the electorate directly - not just having great ideas. We must remember that the opposition to great ideas in this country is well intrenched, well practiced in toxic propaganda and EXTREMELY well-funded. To jump into the ring against them at the main-event level is to invite disaster again and again and again...

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Roberto Blyden's avatar

Carter had numerous accomplishments.

One of which was the establishment of the US Department of Education.

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Bob Churchill's avatar

I have always been a BIG fan of Carter - but there is NO question that he was sandbagged throughout his administration owing to the aforementioned lack of a cadre of powerful allies...

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Yvonne Scott's avatar

Well here ya go! https://www.greenpartyus.org/greens-in-office/

And it is absolutely necessary to have someone run for President if you understand how the process is rigged against third parties.

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john grisaffe's avatar

yeah and when this 3rd party you speak of gets established the same nonsense will start and then we'll have 3 corrupt parties !!!!

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Rachel Kamm's avatar

As my grandmother used to say, "I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole"

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Cathy Delia's avatar

It's pretty ironic that the person they voted for, if they voted at all, is now ready to relocate the Palestinians and take over Gaza. Oh, and he's still sending weapons to Netanyahu. It's sad.

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Rachel Kamm's avatar

Not just the young people. The Muslims of Dearborn, Michigan voted against their own interests. How in the world did they forget his first action in 2017 was the Muslim Ban.

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Paul Thompson's avatar

Sadly, you are correct. Tho, I am, most impressed by an 18-yr-old younger who wors at a Wendy's where i often go for a frosty. He's really analytical and saw all of this--but he wasn't yet 18 in November 2024, so he could not vote for Harris.

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jibal jibal's avatar

This is nothing like what happened in the 60's ... we supported Bobby Kennedy and he was killed, then we begrudgedly voted for Humphrey against Nixon. That's way different from letting Trump win because one cares about Palestinians--that's appallingly stupid and ignorant.

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Cheri Moss's avatar

I was referring to their passion not their reasoning!

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jibal jibal's avatar

But the difference is crucial. Again, these are not AT ALL the same. And having lived through that era *and* watched closely what happened in Dearborn as an anti-Zionist Jew myself, I also disagree about the passion ... much of the resistance to voting for Kamala was performative virtue signaling, or came from Putin-funded provocateurs. People who say "Genocide Joe" are not passionate, they are calculating assholes.

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kate russell's avatar

It's FAFO time.

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Cheri Moss's avatar

Young people voted against Biden to get back at the & Dem for not doing enough for the Palestinians. So to get back..they vote for Trump who wants to make Gaza a place for the rich to vacation! That really worked out for the Palestinians & those young people! 🤦‍♀️

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john grisaffe's avatar

that's the only silver lining to this mess we find ourselves in !! they fafo'ed now they don't like it!!!!

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john grisaffe's avatar

yes they foafo sorry for the harsh lesson but unfortunately they have to live with the disaster the rest of the middle class and below middle class have to live with because of their stupidity!!!

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olderwoman's avatar

FA and FO

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David Alan Arnold's avatar

Who would’ve thought that the illiterate president would be killing the Department of education?

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Steve Doll's avatar

Who's illiterate? Didn't he tell his supporters that in 1775, the Continental Army captured all the forts and air bases?

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David Alan Arnold's avatar

I believe Prime Minister Starmer knew he couldn’t read, and brought him the king’s letter to expose that fact. His illiteracy is to such a level that he could not determine from studying it, that the letter was an invitation to visit. He was forced to ask Starmer to tell him what it says. It was a monumental event that was simply dismissed by the legacy media. Watch it, it is obvious.

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Kathy's avatar

We need to get it out there. Share to X & bluesky. I haven't even heard about it.

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David Alan Arnold's avatar

Samantha Bee did a sketch on it several years ago, wherein they showed a video of him being asked to read a contract, and he waffled, said the print was too small and he didn’t have his glasses, and asked “you want me to read the whole thing?” It was absolutely an example of “the dog ate my homework!” Prime Minister Starmer is a class act who set up our buffoon in chief in a British protocol maneuver, that they knew would expose his illiteracy. I think they did it in honor of President Zelenskyy after the Oval Office attack on him.

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john grisaffe's avatar

where can i find that ? I need a good laugh

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David Alan Arnold's avatar

John I saw it recently on YouTube

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David Alan Arnold's avatar

He is truly illiterate. I’ve seen too many clear examples of his fidgeting like a third grader, to avoid reading something he knew he couldn’t. It is one of the most amazing facts of the modern world.

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Paul Thompson's avatar

He never actually was educated. Papa Fred bought litl Trumpie thru miltary school and both Forham and UPenn.

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Phyllis Robinson's avatar

😂😂

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Carol Smith's avatar

This is Trump’s revenge for his scam university was exposed as failure

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Paul Thompson's avatar

His so-called Uni never would have rec'd DOE funds.

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Sylvia's avatar

Remember, tRump did say he loves the poorly educated. Those are the ones that vote for him!

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Eva Camacho Guzman's avatar

“NO ONE IS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE EDUCATION YOU NEED TO OVERTHROW THEM.” Charles Schulz 🥲

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Sylvia's avatar

Probably true!

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Jenn Lara's avatar

Every single time I hear or read "I didn't vote for that" I am reminded of how gullible MAGA voters are. Trump literally told them to their faces and they chose purposeful blind ignorance. Yes, they did vote for everything that's happening. They just didn't think it would affect them, they thought it would only affect the "crying libs".

Well, I lay all of this crap that is happening, has happened and will happen at MAGA feet. Yes, many millions (too many) chose not to vote and this is on them too but MAGA purposely chose to and continues to choose blind ignorance because they don't have the balls necessary to step up and help correct such an egregious wrong that they are so incredible responsible for.

It's not too late to fix some of this if we actually work together. Better to do it now than to "sit back and see what happens" as I've been told by a couple of MAGA voters.

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Kathy H's avatar

What I hear is them saying they didn't vote for that, but not being honest about what they knew damn well they were voting for & wouldn't admit, racism, misogyny, etc. They didn't think it would affect them because they consider themselves superior. And, even when they are seeing what they don't want now, I don't see them having a come to Jesus moment & starting to do the right thing. How do you go from having, basically, no ethical grounding to standing with personal accountability & the idea of all humans deserving opportunity? I've seen a lot in my time, but nothing that ever showed me how much people were lying about being a part of our liberal consensus. They've betrayal the foundation of trust that our country has been built on, that hard work & being honest pays off.

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Phyllis Robinson's avatar

You hit the nail on the head!!!

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Paul Thompson's avatar

I think some of them nay be starting to see? Think about those Republican town halls over the past weeks. Those we not Dem plants. Those were dyed-in-the-red-wool Republicans being v angry abt how cuts hurting them.

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Jenn Lara's avatar

I do think it's possible some of them are starting to wake up. The sad thing is it's only because things are starting to affect them and they thought they were going to be protected. Regardless, if they are:

Maybe they'll start to reevaluate & reaearch to not make the same mistake again?

Maybe they'll listen to what's being told to them?

Maybe they'll understand that we weren't crying wolf?

Maybe they can start to positively affect other MAGA hearts, at least some of them, to understand what is happening?

It's very challenging to believe they are/have changed. The big question is (at least for me atm) is it too late even if a good amount of MAGA start to fight back?

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Phyllis Robinson's avatar

Yet they still support him, are they mentally ill , illiterate what is it???🤦🏾‍♀️☹️

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Kathy H's avatar

They are emotionally aligning with abusive people because they FEEL this is safe & will give them advantage, they are putting faith into dominance as world order & finding rationale to support that. It's an emotional, spiritual immaturity, children that never learned how to share their toys. They have to be taught they don't get their way with that.

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jibal jibal's avatar

There are many Democrats in districts won by Republicans.

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Mary Anne Sheehan's avatar

Linda McMahon has NO business in education. He is a racist and wants low quality education so he puts her in the spot. WTF?

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Paul Thompson's avatar

What? Having a background in wrestling promotion isn't good prep for running the DOE?

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Kathy H's avatar

The oval office take down of Zelenski was pure WWE theater, Jon Stewart did a thing on it. I thought it was weird Netflix promoted a WWE movie right out of the gate...apparently it is part of the whole reality show government strategy. Man, it's messed up.

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kate russell's avatar

How can ignorant Americans "Make America Great Again"? THEY CAN'T! It's all a massive fraud. If we made community college and trade school free to high school graduates, that would go a long way to a highly functional nation. By the time a student is preparing for their junior year in college, they are pretty sure if they are or are not going to complete their 4 year degree. Even if we can't make a 4 year degree free, if the student didn't start making a financial commitment until they complete an associate degree, think of all the people who wouldn't be in educational debt today. Let's make our country more educated, instead of plopping a red hat and no opportunities to advance on their heads.

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Judy Sherwood's avatar

When, oh when, will our duly elected, taxpayer funded legislators get their act together and stop this insanity. I don't care if D or R: stop this wholesale destruction!!! They know better. Take frickin' charge of Congress and focus on the best interests of America NOT on tRump's fragile ego.

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Paul Thompson's avatar

Yes, yes, yes🤬

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Eva Camacho Guzman's avatar

I read they are scared. 😭

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Charlotte Braun's avatar

Since Trump is INSISTING ON DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY, WHY ARE WE NOT GETTING RID OF HIM!!!!! DUH DUH🥶

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Charlotte Braun's avatar

Another thing is how could anyone TRUST Trump when he cheated twice that we know of on his wife, did not PAY people who did work for him, had a phony university that people paid a lot of money to attend, convicted on 34 felony counts, many of his businesses went into bankruptcy and Cheated on his income tax!!!! How could ANYONE TRUST HIM🥶

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Steve Doll's avatar

By seeing him for what they want him to be, and refusing to find out what he really is - a venal, corrupt and deeply troubled individual who shouldn't be trusted to predict whether the sun is going to rise tomorrow.

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Cathy Delia's avatar

I don't think most of the people who voted for Trump knew any of that stuff about him, except the 34 felony counts which they believed he didn't deserve.

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Kathy's avatar

To say nothing of his felonies.

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CJinAK's avatar

Ret. Teacher here, I can attest! Randi’s the absolute best! She’s for kids, teachers, families, communities, states, country, and the world. And she’s fair across the board!

👊🏽👍🏽❤️‼️

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CJinAK's avatar

OMG yes! I think of current teachers daily and what they must be going through. I love/loved teaching and miss it every day! I can only begin to imagine what it must be like right now.

Those who wish to destroy public schools have obviously never stepped foot in one and have no clue what they’re talking about. Some people hate public schools, but love their own children’s schools. Public schools have been the great equalizers when it comes to key moments in our history. That’s the trigger when narrow, hateful politics just don’t fit as they’d like. The coup mongers are taking advantage of that. May the fomenters of this mess all self-destruct before it’s too late. It’s said that “the fish rots from the top down.” Some of that seems to be happening, especially as more and more are speaking out daily.

In the mean time, we the retired can make our voices heard daily and encourage others to join us. Call legislators with every outrageous behavior made by themselves and/or the coup mongers, and/or thank them for any positive moves they make as well. Remind them of their oath of office, which requires them to support and defend the Constitution. Their military oaths as well, if applicable. Encourage them to stand up to stop the coup, and to help save our democracy…and maybe themselves and their legacies in the process! Give them something to think about. Call daily for progress reports and clarification. Get to know the office staff. Be nice, but firm. .

Recruit some friends and cohorts to join you as well! Speaking out makes a difference. And taking action feels good, too!

Hugs to all here!

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Eva Camacho Guzman's avatar

Retired teacher here too. ☺️

🙏🏼 to those that are still in public education.

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Needsmore Cowbell's avatar

Trump said he was gonna get rid of the education dept. it’s like people only hear what they want to hear, don’t hear at all, or better yet don’t take the time to do the research on the candidate they are planning on voting for in the election. He never hid that away. If anyone wouldn’t think he’d cut their throats, they might want to think again.

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David Sassoon's avatar

KEEP FIGHTING.

(US STUDENTS ARE NOT WELL REGARDED IN EUROPE UNIVERSITIES AND IF THE EMPEROR OF LIES GETS AWAY WITH THIS MAD PLAN... IMAGINÉ ?????

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Laura Grossman's avatar

They are trying to finish the job the Bush family started in the 80’s.

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Vicki Yost's avatar

Thanks for putting a spot light on the Education Department. So many things it does for all of us.

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Mary Anne Sheehan's avatar

Stealing everything!

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