In a new report, Ben Meiselas holds a mirror up to Trump voters who are just now seeing how Trump and his billionaire oligarchs are turning against them. From Elon Musk betraying MAGA by turning away from “free-speech absolutism,” and Vivek Ramaswamy suggesting American workers aren’t smart enough to make good engineers, and even working class immigrants who never thought Trump would turn on them, Trump supporters are already feeling betrayed by his shift away from their expectations. This ad-free experience is available for subscribers of Meidas+.
Meiselas shows how time and time again Trump has broken his promises to his base, such as his bogus claims on lowering grocery prices, a healthcare plan that never materialized, and the wall that was never built. Additionally, Meiselas shines a light on racism within the MAGA movement, with a poignant reflection from an immigrant who initially defended Trump but now recognizes the raw bigotry underlying much of his agenda.
Working class immigrants who voted for Trump who never thought he would come for them are now learning that the MAGA movement sees them as dirty and undesirable. The evidence was there all along, in Trump’s poem “The Snake”: Trump has been festering anti-immigrant hate for years. The backlash is coming as Trump voters realize they supported billionaire oligarchs who only used them to get access to power.
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Unfortunately they are dragging the rest of us along. I can’t tell you enough, I talked until I was blue in the face…. NO ONE WOULD LISTEN.
So here we are.. all on the titanic together.
Ditto
Exactly. They had already decided to close their minds and hearts, only directly experienced pain and betrayal by their group or leader will make an impact.
I talked too. All I got for my trouble was called names and ridiculed.
I think Alot Of Us Tried Hard til we were blue in the face💔 The First news I heard, bill to get rid of the dept of education is already been introduced, thankfully it looks like sons of liberty discord is on it with pretyped responses we can all get our hands on and send out asap. Then heard Dickface say there’s only one gender moving forward and I’m so pissed I can’t think straight 😤🤬😠🤮 I am So Heartbroken for all the LGBTQ+ that didn’t ask for this, especially the young and feel for the ones that did as long as it opens their eyes asap! One flick of news and seeing how upset it got me has me realizing I am going to have to learn meditation and yoga ASAP, I don’t want their hate to take over my energy and mindset✨🫂 And This Is What We ALL HAVE TO Remember Every Single Day….Anchor In Love and Light and ask if what we’re saying doing and thinking is coming from love✨🙌✨ This is how the world ultimately wins! Bc we cannot allow them to turn us into what they are💯🫶
All those who think they were hoodwinked, by Trump and minions, you lapped up his dripping lies. Minute by Minute. Day by day. You lapped it up like baby kittens. We told you so!
Yes, and wait until the "Trump 'hostages'" find out they're not [all] getting pardons. Think the infighting is bad now? It's going to be one hundred times worse once the thugs who get pardons are facing the vitriol of the ones who didn't. It will be one mel-of-a-hess. LOL 😂
Magas will be eating each others lunch
They may not have lunch if fat boy gets his way.
Or “eating each other FOR lunch!”
Sadly, that would be one promise he would keep
I don't know. He has not been known to keep his promises to those who supported him in the past. We will just have to sit back & watch how this all plays out & how much they all start fighting each other. :(
No sympathy for anyone that voted for WEIRDO TRUMPTY DUMPTY!! Reap what you sowed!!!!
The ones that got talked into, pressured into voting for him I do. Bc where we live I heard many story’s of just of age kids saying their parents were forcing them to and our election places will let people stand with one another at booths. We must try to remember the ones who did and feel betrayed will become some of our greatest allies🫶✨
How do you feel about the 90 million eligible voters who didn't cast a ballot?
Because it was what they wanted to hear, or they twisted it into what they wanted to hear.
Janice, this is not helpful. To be hoodwinked, you have to “buy” at least part of what’s being sold. Most don’t. You have to be more acceptable than Dorito Spiceboy. We should march on Dildo Donnie’s birthday making crystal clear what we offer as an alternative in our universe! And refusing to buy garbage from him.
It’s called critical thinking and they do not do it. If you read a book or get informed, then you know what the heck is going on in their sick world of oligarchy.. they cut their nose off to spite their face. Idiots.
FYI, the saying is “cut off their nose to spite their face”
Thanks I changed it.
I thought it was despite 😂
WEIRDOS!!
Trump is as hypermasculine as an earthworm 🪱. FAFO! And Elon? ELON??? A super rich turd with neither soul nor the slightest of family values. Screw ‘em all.
Exactly.
They made him in their own image, not based on his behaviors. That’s why they sanewash his comments, why they never believed he was guilty, or that he would betray them.
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There was a wonderful description of dealing with political bastards at the end of “Shogun” when a major anti-imperial traitor is seen buried in public up to his neck in the earth with a bamboo saw next to him and a sign saying, “Feel free to saw at the most famous neck in Japan!”
Rumps “shiny” objects game plan of crazy talk ( Greenland, Panama, Gulf of America, Canada) while grifting every crack and crevice of OUR White House make anyone else angry?
All distraction
While they rob our treasury and natural resources. No one can stop the grifting while they control the White House.
Don't worry, the Gulf of Mexico isn't going to be the Gulf of America. I'd put money on at least one of his planned acquisitions bearing the made-up name of TRUMP.
Bamboozled is the word for these folks…. Own it, wear it, stay on that side.
Yes, his voters are beginning to see. I couldn’t understand why they believed him in the first place. Now we will all pay for their belief that he would lower food and rent prices. Total lies! We are in for a rough ride! I just hope we can put the brakes on him in the next election.
He doesn't get another election. 2 terms and this is his second term. The he goes bye bye, but what kind of damage will he leave behind. We are in for a rough 4 years
I am referring to the midterm election in 2 years when we can take back the House and the Senate and stop his agenda.
A lot of really bad stuff can happen in two years.
The only silver lining is that MAGA and the GQP doesn't seem to be able to get much done in any time frame.
Yes, Anna, you're spot on. MAGA infighting (within the Hill and outside of it) dooms them. Even if Dumpty rides off to Boot Hill and we wind up with Vance we'll still be subject to "Presidential Elect Buddy" Elon Musk. Vance won't be any more $ucce$$ful in getting rid of him than Trump is!
I believe we have a chance to take back the House, but not the Senate. I don’t think enough flippable seats are available in the Senate in 2026.
Assuming there's more elections.
Midterms may be able to stop the bleeding.. IF we have them. );
Are you sure of that?? The bought supreme court found a lot of wiggle room in Article 14 and also regarding immunity. I wish I had that certainty still, but I don't anymore.
He said he wasn't leaving. Unless he goes out in a box, he'll refuse to leave and the GOP will back him.
I'll take him leaving in a box, please.
Amen.
Yeah! Like NOW!
I've wondered whether that might be accomplished by some 2A loving father or mother or spouse or sibling whose kids or loved one harmed by Trump. When he was first elected, my book club agreed that if we were diagnosed with a terminal disease, we might volunteer - but the only weapons we had at hand were our library cards.
But since WEIRDO TRUMPTY DUMPTY has immunity, watch him NEVER leave the WH!!! Then we're in ALOT MORE trouble than now!!!!
God help us!!
I shouldn't say this, but maybe he will croak and do us all a favor, but then we would have JD Vance. I think that would be a travesty. To stay in power, he would have to change the constitution and thats not going to be easy. There will be other elections and his time will be up. Lets hope he doesn't screw up the country beyond repair.
There is a good chance Donald will not complete his presidency. I think JD, as repugnant as he is, would be better as a) no one likes him, not even his own party, and more importantly b) he could not hold the MAGA base. I don't think anyone but Trump can do that. In spite of Don Jr.'s hopes and dreams on that score...
Also I should have specified Section 3 of Article.14.
@ Paul Alexander: Dream on. Trump is in a world of hurt and Jan 20th is only the beginning.
God, I sure hope you're right.
His voters were alright with others suffering is why they believed him. Trump campaigned on "us versus them" and his followers stupidly bought his line of BS hook, line, and sinker. Remember when he said he'd "Protect women ... whether they like it or not?"
He is a pervert, an adulterer, and a liar. Why would any thinking person believe him? The only reason is because of everything he promised to do to RINOS and his perceived "political enemies" they supported. Trump's theme of "us versus them" gave MAGA a false (flimsy) impression of security, protection, and--yes, "immunity" by Trump's definition.
"Do anything, and I'll protect you!" How many JAN6 families did he financially support? How many of their legal bills has he paid? When only a "select few" are pardoned, what will the response be? It's not good [for him and his legion of devils], and we can take that to the bank.
They are the duped stupids who never figured on being lied to and abandoned. They thought he would be their Cyrus. He is their Jeroboam aka The Great Betrayor.
JUDAS the DUMB DUMP TRUMP (He's BETRAYED our Beloved Country)!!
Yup. He’s a predator, a liar, an adulterer and he’s betrayed everyone of his marriages. Burying the mother of his three adult children on his New Jersey golf course should have been yet another sign that he’s unfit to lead. JAN6 was the sign that he was willing to “burn the house down” in order to stay in office.
But his followers worshiped him, believing if they wore adult diapers to his rallies and sanitary pads on their ears he’d be impressed. They were fooled and today many are desperate because of his failure to do what he said he’d do.
The only people who are happy are the ones going to make deposits in their bank accounts—grifters and liars just like their “god.” The devil is a liar. There is no truth nor is there any light to be seen in this evil, dark and corrupt administration. I recall reading …”Resist the devil and he will flee …” Chump is changing his mind as much of what he’s tried to do is shot down by SCOTUS of late. In his mind judges he appointed would rule in his favor.
That’s not what’s happening. Trashing the USA and selling out is obviously a priority for this group of deplorables. They’re not having an easy time of it and people are waking up and taking a stand against tyranny. This is a good thing.
Perhaps the highest court in the land realizes they’ve goofed in giving the devil’s manservant immunity. He believes he is above the law. Well, he’s not above the Creator so we shall see how long his reign of hate and terror prevails.
Absolutely right!
Good. Fool around and find out is now in the find out stage.
Yup!
IGNORANCE is NOT an excuse. They made their bed now they need to lie in it. I don’t feel any sympathy for them. The rest of us unfortunately will pay for their ignorance and stupidity. The time is over for sugar coating the truth.
There were/are educated, professional well to do people who are pure Maga. Most are Christian nationalists who are militantly anti abortion, anti LGBTQ - especially the Trans part. If Trump pisses on them and says it's raining, they will believe him.
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A reminder: The 2025 word of the year will be schadenfreude.
Sadly true - but we all suffer due to their ignorance/hate/racism .......
Unfortunately, in 2025 99% of us will be the ones suffering!
I can tell you, women all over the world, are laughing at what Maga thinks is an example of masculinity. They best keep their maga mama happy because women in other countries don't want anything to do with those kind of so-called men.
I am single & the fact that men voted someone in office who has treated women like crap & is taking away women's rights says it all about how much their women mean to them. After 25 years being married, I am happy not to deal with that.
Same!! About to be 25 years but not “legally” married. My concern lately has been how to help the young girls wade through this. My lil cousin I call my niece I have custody of recently started talking to a boy, we just had our homecoming dance and they went together. The Friday night game he came over and my man asked out loud so has he been asked the ? Yet to see if he passes ur approval, who he’d vote for if he was old enough to, he joyfully said trump, my niece says oh yeah I forgot to mention not to mention that. Aunt doesn’t like him at all, Boy said it’s ok. After a couple mins my ol man said to me loudly to u gonna ask him for which reason he would’ve voted for him, bc he’s a racist bigot or…..I don’t want to place judgement onto a 17yr old that has no life experiences, but I also do not want my niece or eventually daughter to end up with someone who underlying has those beliefs that pop up randomly either💔 He doesn’t seem to be someone who doesn’t have respect for women, and I wouldn’t think she would even try to date someone who has ever posted something along those beliefs online. This nonsense has presented an entirely new issue I NEVER thought would occur😔 Bc now it’s deeper than covering the common sense basics of finding a genuine, good, supportive partner.
Don’t forget the 10 million or so people who voted in 2020 but - for various reasons- couldn’t be bothered to vote! They are just as culpable!
You mean 100 million.
They are if this is true.
So if we replace American workers with Indian hi tech workers will we be replacing Christianity with Hinduism?
It’s probably better. The Christianity of today is not about God or Jesus it’s about how much money and power can I get.
Or endorsing an immoral candidate.
Christian Nationalists who say they believe in Jesus & follow the Bible but only vote according to their own interests. I have had experience & have a hard time being around them as they eroded my trust in thinking we were like minded & shared the same beliefs.
1972 or 73 - I learned how racist Trump was when DOJ came after him (& his father - KKK Trump) for refusing to rent to Black Americans & Puerto Ricans. The Trumps were in trouble again in (not sure of the year) when DOJ went after them for charging one rent to whites & a higher rent to Black Americans & Puerto Ricans. He has always hated black & brown people - he learned that from his KKK father. How stupid do you have to be to not know this about this pitiful man.
Pitiful?!? How stupid do YOU have to be to pity HIM?!?
She doesn't pity him that way. There's more than one definition of pitiful:
pitiful /pĭt′ĭ-fəl/
adjective
1. Inspiring or deserving pity.
**2. Arousing contemptuous pity, as through ineptitude or inadequacy. **
synonym: pathetic.
3. Filled with pity or compassion.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition •
@steveglicken656019 - How stupid do YOU have to be to not understand simple English? Become a little more learned before YOU call someone else stupid.
I have a doctorate and majored in English lit. Not that it means anything to you. Trump deserves no pity. He dug his own grave. Screw him.
You are a perfect example of how you can have a degree and still be dumb as a box of rocks. Pitiful can mean inspiring or deserving pity, but it also means Arousing contemptuous pity, as through ineptitude or inadequacy. with the synonym: pathetic.
You are pitiful, and I don't mean in the former definition, but in the latter. Pathetic.
I have never in my entire life heard someone use pitiful in a good way. I hear pitiful, I hear sad pathetic excuse for _____ lol
And you, sir, are a poorly put together jerk. Consider yourself a waste of my time. Oh, and blocked.
Hey man, she was implying the same thing, ur on the same page. It’s not difficult to recognize u misread her interpretation and simply apologize 😉 For future reference maybe just try not to personally attack someone online so quickly. Remember our words have power and for, we do not know how long, they will sit online spreading that message to whoever comes across it for possibly multiple multiple generations 😉 Think about what u want to leave behind for those that come across it then, and the type of energy u would want them to take from your words ✨🫶
MAGA evangelicals need to be reminded that this preferred culture from India is a culture that worships cows and believes in a caste system and you MAGA are not in the top caste.
Oops for MAGA voters. A bigger Oops is waiting for the Keystone Cops who've joined Trump's traveling circus. I expect more fallout and internal chaos to ensue. And, all because Trump is an illiterate--except to his cult members who are now trying to figure out how to survive the coming onslaught of Trumpism. Too bad, too sad and the next four years are going to be nothing like Trump's daydreams.
Anyone who watched that insane display of nonsense by the fool, yesterday, has to know WE HAVE ALL LOST. My thoughts to you,your brothers and family,as well as all suffering through the fires 🔥
Trump got their vote. Other than buying his trinkets, they have nothing else he wants. Welcome to the grand transactional president.
Good.. they need to see and feel the betrayal ..
Trump appears to be reading from a script these days. I don't even think these are his ideas but what Musk and Heritage paid for.
He has no idea.
I disagree. His one and only idea is to build up the trump dynasty treasure chest as much as possible.
I agree. He seems very tired and disinterested, even when he is making horrible statements. I just keep hoping he'll quit and go away...
I keep hoping he will choke on a big Mac or stroke out or have a fatal heart attack. Maybe he has a better chance of getting struck by lightning on the golf course since that is where he will be spending the majority of his time.
I suspect many folks feel the same way! FWIW he looks very unhealthy and exhausted. I know my dad could not have handled the campaign schedule at that age, let alone the presidential schedule. I expect he will continue to speechify in front of the cameras, but leave the hard work up to JD...
Or the EVIL Stephen Miller!!!
And then who will be caught like a deer in the headlights? J.D. Vance, who really doesn't know which end is up. Still, not showing signs of dementia, so that's a plus....maybe :-}
I don't think it matters who is president as long as it is GOP and they are willing to be bought.
Empathy for all the lemmings who voted against their interests. They are going to find out how criminals redistribute wealth. America will suffer.
I'm waiting for the disillusioned MAGAs to request a re-boot of the election.
I can see that happening
Next election meaning the midterms. We can take back the House and the Senate and halt his agenda.
We had 90 million people who couldn't be bothered to vote in a GENERAL election, even when we were facing another trump regime! Do you seriously believe anyone can get out the vote for midterm elections? Historically, people don't show up for those... 2022 possibly being an exception. I'm not sure we'll even have a 2026 election, but if we do, I doubt it's going to resemble anything democratic.
Maybe
Ben, not sure what’s up but unable to hear podcast: TRUMP PLAN EXPOSED as TERM CR..
Advice?
They will get what they gave to our nation.
Let them suffer the consequences.
REMEMBER THIS:
YOU ARE FREE TO CHOOSE,
BUT YOU ARE
NOT
FREE FROM THE
CONSEQUENCES
OF YOUR
CHOICES.
That's why Trump loves the poorly educated. He loves them so much that he wants to dismantle the Dept of Education to keep them blissfully ignorant.
Reread “1984”!
Soooooo true. That's been a GOP/plutocrat agenda for decades. And, here we are, with an entire generation of college graduates whose parents were happy not to improve public education if doing so meant they would pay higher taxes. Their children who are college graduates, mostly unprepared by the time they left high school to join the workforce, are now crippled by their educational loans, while the rest of their generation, those without college degrees ,suffer the consequences of their inadequate socio-economic support for attending college and/or inadequate public K-12 during those very important years of their development. Gotta hand it to those devious members of the GOP. They sure did get what they wanted, those jerks.
"Concepts of a plan" after EIGHT YEARS of saying that the ACA was "terrible".
Now the only "Plan" that I hear of, from Mike Johnson, is getting rid of the "existing conditions" protections, that will force millions off their insurance plan.
The main disqualifying preexisting condition will be life, and anyone alive will NOT be eligible to file for any newly existing pathological condition.
Please copy and send to “weak-brained” Mike Johnson!
What could possibly be the point of that legislation? I mean, other than the outright cruelty. More profits for insurance companies? Will pregnancy and COVID be pre-existing conditions now, or mental health treatment? Jeez.
Sadly you thought of the answer on the first try....more profits for insurance companies....and cruelty.
Go figure. If that were to become a reality, though, think of all the illustrious leaders and legislators in this country who wouldn't have coverage. They'd find out real quick how much medical care and drugs actually cost. As if that's any consolation to the average citizen...
If fucks could fly, I’d donate one to explain how I feel about them and their moron followers.
So H-1B visas are actually the Great Replacement, not that other anti-Democrat theory? Surprise, surprise!
This reminds me of something my Dad used to say- "Sometimes you have to be careful what you ask for." These people didn't look at the facts and now they're crying. Too bad they're dragging the rest of us down with them.
How can they be so unaware of Deadbeat Donnie's dishonesty? Do they really think that all of the reports of him lying to the nation tens of thousands of times just the democrats making shit up? They can see his repeated broken promises with their own lying eyes. No wall, no health care plan, and Obama care is still alive and well. This is the reason why I call them MAGA MAROONS.
After four previous years of DJT's mayhem there is no excuse for not understanding. I would wish on them what they voted for but I didn't ask for this madness but I must live through it too. Thanks half of America. He's not even in office yet and the madness and chaos is already starting. CNN was calling the potential invasion of Panama and Greenland as "expansion". No...it's invasion, ala Putin with Ukraine. Madness.
I've been writing for a few months that tRump buyers remorse will be harsh, epic u name it mostly on YouTube so not a surprise, just disappointment that tRump voters have such short memory spans . Were any of the magas awake ⏰️ for tRumps first term? Insanity to believe in different results this time.
No, they were just fixating on the price of eggs. One Maga caller said the quiet part out loud, "We don't want a moral leader. We want lower prices." I think it was Oscar Wilde who said, "There are two tragedies in life. One is not getting what you want. The other is getting it." Caveat emptor.
Voter's remorse sets in bigly. #Politics
After witnessing the four years of Trump's presidency and knowing all about him and his minions I will go to my grave wondering how on earth did America reelect this criminal traitorous clown.
There is Russian who escaped from Russia before the war he has a program called INSIDE RUSSIA on YouTube. He made a cast about how the Kremlin over the years took more and more away from the country and people to the point that he is in control of the country the people. Now he has total control and absolute power over everything. He has removed anything that confronts him or stands in his way. This is how it happens.
Konstantin from INSIDE RUSSIA warned us about this exact same thing. Don't lose control over your government like Russia did. Stay vigilant it's very impreseptabal while it's happening.
Well said the American people need to stop this madness from happening they have the power. But they need to act before it's too late. Concerned Canadian.
Hi Bluesmurf! Yes, this is where I'm at, "what to do"? My theory is for Dems to win the midterms we need more cross over voters. I think djt's betrayals will tip the scales. Congress has the 2025 playbook and need to play offense not defense. For now, I'm going to let the amateur administration go into full betrayal mode. Then test the temperature of cross over voters. ??? 🤔
They thought he meant OTHER immigrants, certainly not them or their friends.
So Elon said we would have to suffer before it gets better. Before WHAT gets better and how?!
My opinion is, due to the general moral decay and greed in this world, we will only be able to beat this by denying ourselves (and the oligarchs) the PRIVILEGE of getting our money by cutting WAY back on spending on things that are not necessary. Stop driving for one day per week. Stop shopping on Amazon. And cancel your cable news in favor of FREE (in more ways than one) PRESS. Stop buying anything advertised anywhere it benefits greed (there are apps to check political affiliations based off donation habits and company profit info is easily obtained). IF WE, AS ONE, DECIDE TO TAKE THE REINS IN THIS WAY IT WILL QUICKLY AFFECT OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR REPRESENTATION IN IT. CONGRESSIONAL REFORM WOULD FOLLOW.
I have personally taken some even more drastic steps to practice what I preach but listen, IF I HAVE TO SUFFER, IT WILL BE ON MY OWN TERMS WHENEVER POSSIBLE NOT BECAUSE ELON SAYS SO! IT IS ONE OF THE LAST WAYS, I BELIEVE, TO FEEL THAT I HAVE FREEDOM IN MY LIFE. I have able to retain a much higher amount of fruits of my labor and given benefit to others who need help in ways I never could realize before.
That's why he loves the poorly educated! And his love is so great that he wants to keep them blissfully ignorant by dismantling the Dept if Education.
Watch "#georgecarlin tried to WARN us all decades ago — he always knew the truth. 💯" on YouTube:
https://youtube.com/shorts/3SM_SVSHaRo?si=TeDvLDAsAFQZ41v9
I've often said George Carlin saw this coming many years ago. I miss him.
I miss him, too!
They need to realize MAGA and Trump NEVER gave a fat “f” about them.
Pretty good stuff here, Ben. I like how you feature regrets that contradict themselves - especially on immigration. Any fissure within MAGA should be shamelessly exploited. More of this and efforts to reach into chambers where the MAGAts reside.
We must get rid of Trump
They were warned REPEATEDLY.
Who else remembers trying to tell our fellow Americans that tRump can’t be trusted and being told to “shut TF up dumb libtard” 👋🏻 I do!
His followers really to get their heads out of the sand and pay attention! I will never get over the sheer ignorance that puts us here again!
On his Coronation Day ( Jan 20th) Trump will self proclaim himself Emperor of the Americas , suspend the Constitution and Congress, a universal pardon to all Jan 6th insurrectionists and imprison all those who prosecuted or assisted in prosecuting him and enact a bill absolving him of any judgements or convictions. Vive L' Emperor Trump
Don't forget he will immediately banish all immigrants. Does that include Melanoma?
Is that you, Miller?
Why not start naming Musk what he is -- instead of labeling him "Far Right"? He is way to powerful to be named as though hs is in a class of Republican right wingers. Call him what he is -a Fascist, a Plutocrat, or whatever other names apply? There are right wing Republicans whose values aren't, at least in private, aligned with the megalomaniacs like Musk and Trump. Calling those something else is a way for the most conservative Republicans to separate themselves in public from Musk's insanity.
The media concentration of power does not foster objective journalism to create informed understanding resulting in rationally informed Public Opinion. So lazy reporters/self-termed “journalists” prefer generic labels to creating explicit understanding. Has anyone but L. O’Donnell or Nicole Wallace had the balls to call what is happening, treason? Or especially Richard Painter.
I appreciate Nicole Wallace but after a while she and the repetitive group of "friends and guests" (I honestly think it undermines any sense of objectivity that she calls her show's commentators "friends') are just speaking to each other and the each are telling each other what great points the other person is making. They never feature the voices of actual people out in America who honestly don't understand what it means to have a daily dose of "unprecedented" behavior in our Justice Department, Executive Branch, Congressional, or whatever other "norms" are being violated that day. They really don't know. WE all know that, and WE know why it's wrong. But does the public know WHY norms in the DOJ matter? Why public information from the CDC and NIH is important? Most of America doesn't understand why the President shouldn't be allowed to make money while he's President. I've not once heard anyone on that show explain why he shouldn'tt, its just all very OMG it's just "insane." And treasonous. but hearing that without explaining why gets old.
Elyse --- SPOT ON!!! you are speaking to the choir. I began writing about the failure of the Fourth Estate, when I establish a blog when my last book was published at the advice of my friend Dave Satterfield, winner of 2 Pulitzers for financial reporting as the Bus Ed of the Miami Herald, anchor then of the Knight Ridder chain...and called my blog: www.the5thestate.net because the 4th failed. I only watch O'Donnell, who is the last of the journalists in the mold of Cronkite and Murrow. Dave Satterfield also endorsed and wrote the foreword for my last book, www.howwegotswindled.com - which he nominated for a Pulitzer.
Further, as I bet you know, the "public" has been dumbed down because the Kochs were successful in getting public funds for public schools diverted to private charter schools which in Red States are KKKristian schools in denial & avoidance of science intent on stifling critical inquisitive thought. So now there is a generation or 2 that has no clue about much of anything if their parents are Republicans, and for kids of Democratic parents, they believe they are entitled to their opinions, no matter how wrong - which are assertions and mere conclusions that can't be supported by facts.
Reagan kicked off the sociopathic greedy billionaires drive to deregulate greed and devalue ethics. Which I wrote about in Swindled, and explicitly detailed why arrogant narcissists like Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan and Larry Sommers were cheerleaders for greed - and responsible for ripping down the Glass-Steagall 1933/Bank Holding Co Act 1956 cage that successfully curbed greed - until Clinton followed the advice of Peter Rubin (Goldman infiltrator) and signed Graham, Leach, Bliley (Clinton later said this was the worst decision of his Presidency) which opened the door, and is the platform for today's un-American grifters behind the Russian Asset following orders to SCUTTLE U.S. Democracy.
Thank you Elyse - I feel less isolated!
I could not agree with you more, so yes, thank you for saying as much in far more detail - all of which I would not argue with, although I haven't read your blog or book (yet). And ditto re: Lawrence O'Donnell, bless his soul, and whoever taught him to think the way he thinks and, above all, to speak about it in English! I've given up on the rest of MSNBC. I'm no economist but I guess I've learned something from my circumstances and curiosity -- including in the age of Cronkite. I must have mentioned him more in the last couple of months than I did in the five years before! Don't get me started :-) Thanks again, Henry
O'Donnell is the closest thing to Cronkite, who in 68 upon returning from a trip to Nam told America we didn't belong there, why and America had to exit! He did not have General Westmoreland on to give the "other side," because he saw first hand that Westy was lying, which LBJ figured out after the fact. I vividly remember - having attended USNOCS in the fall of 64. The goddamn Das CNN round tables to nowhere for the past decades, "non partisan" ABOUT THE TRUTH - have rendered CNN akin to soft Das Fox. High school debate teams where one side is assigned a position to argue why a dead body isn't dead serves to inure students to lies, and that's it's ok to take the side of overt lies. So America has now reached a deflection point where Generals must decide that there oath to DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AGIANST FOREIGN & DOMESTIC ENEMIES IS NOT AN OATH TO DEFEND A PRESIDENT THAT IS A SELF-EVIDENT DOMESTIC ENEMY. keep in touch.
Not only does O'Donnell have rigid integrity toward truth and the role and obligation of the protected Fourth Estate - he has the insight and wisdom to clearly see what is wrong, and the balls to stand up for the truth to objectively create informed public opinion...which includes condemning other "journalists" in abject failure.
This may be superficial, but following your comment just now, there’s absolutely nothing masculine about those three men.
"men"
Thanks Ben. I've said everything you just said, over and over again. The felon's followers are as hateful and disgusting as he is. Unfortunately, all of us will suffer greatly soon. And they are to blame for their ignorance.
The day is coming when I tell my idiot MAGA son I told you so.
Be generous, folks. It's very hard to be stupid. You go through life from one bad decision to the other and never learn how to avoid the pitfalls of the charlatans.
You know, while I am glad some MAGA-ites are starting to come to their senses, I fear it's too late to turn back time. Maybe they will vote less insane people into office soon. In the meantime, I sincerely hope we do not become embroiled with insanities that will hurt tons of people.
I don't think it does any good, and actually causes harm, to get caught up in being angry at those who enabled a Trump win (which I still have a hard time believing wasn't fixed). It is exactly that division and grievance-based politicking that causes the division that lets creeps and power-mongers like Trump/Musk/Orban etc to slither through the cracks in society and gain office. I think we need to focus on creating a wave of voter expectation, where the citizenry bands together to get what they need: more prosperity, security and a higher standard of living (which might start with universal national health care and some TLC to the public education system).
People think others will be hurt by the demagogue's scapegoating, but not them. Time to rethink about liberty and justice for all.
Trump and Musk want to become dictators. Unfortunately, Musk is craving it.
The bad part of all this regret is that they pulled us down the tubes with them. They think they don't like what they are seeing, just wait, it is only going to get worse.
OK, so on the cyber truck issue… If he was such a big fan of Trump, why did he blow it up in front of Trump towers? I know that we’re still learning all the idiosyncrasies of the idiot Maga followers, but any theories anyone
What most of these MAGA people probably don’t realize is that Trump is only driven by money. He who pays the most, gets what they want. Historically, that has been the Religious Right, but it’s changing.
I don’t think MAGA supporters watch anything but Fox— so they stay in their fox hole of disinformation. How can you reach them— otherwise, we are just commiserating never Trumpers.
I feel a little sorry for these reluctant Trump voters, except the racist, sexist, non democratic fascist, pretend Christians. Someone help me do I have any left?
I want to see numbers, how many of these assholes have "seen the light". Many, stupid enough to vote for Trump to begin with, are too stupid to "see the light". Let's see some numbers, a poll for those who regret their vote.
Leopard 🐆 Meet Face
Why wouldn't he be anti-cancer funding, he STOLE money from a children's cancer charity!!!
Now you know why intelligence tests are not required of voters.
I mean, how stupid do you have to be not to know that tariffs are a tax passed on to the end buyer, aka the consumer?!
Did 'DON the CON's MAGAOTS not realize that darned near everything THEY buy at Northern Tool, Harbor Freight, Dollar Tree, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc, will be TARIFFED!!!
STOP VOTING FOR THE UNIPARTY DUOPOLY POLITICIANS THAT SMILE IN YOUR FACE WHILE THEY LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH!!!
we use to kill traitors
All of this information was there for everybody to see. How did they miss it? IDK. They told us they were going to do this. Every bit of it. And somehow voters were all for de-funding cancer research and cutting social security.
Elonia seems to ignore that he himself has not been able to deliver on the promise of self driving cars, or successful rockets that can redock successfully and consistently. He seems to have ruined X and apparently, in typical confession, he hires people to play video games to raise his standing. Trump and him, peas in a pod
Elon Musk has always been far, far right. #Apartheid
And a sexist pig.
Thank you Meidas for your valuable work. I’ve tuned out television and most newspaper news.
I never forget one important thing about trump: Not now, and not ever, did he ever care about others' opinion of him.
No matter what he does in the days ahead, trump will not care at all what we think about him. For trump, for all his life, the phrase "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law" is the principle he lives by.
We need 2 send President Melon The Mars Baby & his VP ORANGE BABY TRUMPET on a rocket 2 Mars LOL
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He doesn't blame just migrants. Wait til everything goes sideways, it will be all Biden's fault.
Hope we see every MAGA maggot self destruct like a implosion button snaps in their brains, when 2025 lawsuits block trump, and elons suicide agenda planned for poor MAGA maggots to. trump said he don't care about MAGA, he just wants your votes. MAGA you deserve this poisonous Karma. Not us!
Fu*k you Donald....you're a douchebag POS💩...your entire life , you've lied, stealed, cheated, committed crimes and assaulted women ... You belong in a prison cell with no window, a shity mattress on the floor and a cardboard box in the corner for you to take a dump in....and fed leftover food from the garbage bin on a cold metal tray in your cell to eat only with your tiny hands ....and where you get only 1 hour a day to be let out and hopefully run into someone that takes issue with your fat ass....Fu*k you and your entire family Donny ‼️ 🖕
I agree with the comments already posted. Sadly, we will all have to deal with what the majority of our fellow voters...preferred. If they are 'disappointed', too bad. And what did they expect from their dictator wannabe and his unelected Boer car dealer? Their leader has never followed through anything, for anyone except himself. That's not hard to discover, even in a world awash in dis and mis information. Currently I am in the DC area and today went to view President Carter as he lay in state at the capitol rotunda...The profound difference between that leader and the one a majority chose to foist in on us is profound. As Jan 2nd put so well..."I'm so pissed off"
And frankly no looking forward to the next admin.
I have MAGA friends and family who are veterans. I'm looking forward to seeing their faces when their veterans benefits are cut. I will laugh out loud. No sympathy from me. This is what they wanted. This is what they get. Don't get mad at me because you refused to listen.
Sad but true
We warned them that Trump and P2025 would set up a Dictatorship. Every election in the future could be fake. Trump was a good pupil for Putin. America is over and it’s 100% MAGA’s fault 😡 #WeWarnedThem
I don't think I could ever be civil to someone (relatives included) who I heard whine about what Chump promised and then did the opposite or promised then reneged on. They would probably be shocked at my response. Thanks, Ben
Since when does Musk write policy?
Haters gotta hate
Feels a lot like regret after they voted for Brexit 🙄
If you want to further the rebirth of masculinity, the first thing that's imperative for you to do is to paint your face with a ton of makeup. Oh, and get liposuction.
Idiots. "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." H. L. Menken
Well, they're going to get it good and hard, just like the rest of us.
They are total idiots! Now we all have to suffer from the stupidity. Thanks Ben!! You kept us up to date for the past few years 💙💙Ⓜ️Ⓜ️
Really not much to comment on this podcast... except the Maga Cultists didn't understand that Trump follows where the money is. Henceforth the money is located with the Oligarchs. DUH@
Well at least their showers won’t go drip drip drip.
Sad stuff. But America reelected the orange tinred great dissapointment.
So disappointed in Michael. No need for mansplaining. It was so dismissive when women have recounted their experiences.
Ben, I don't know if you ran across an article that I did I can't remember the name of the person or organization that posted it but it was explaining the reason why Donald Trump is so into the tariffs now is because he has set up an account like a business account that only his name is on it and he is the only person that has possession of it and that he is going to funnel the Tariff money into that account for his self. I don't know if that's true or not but I know you have the wherewithal to investigate it if you so desire but it sounds like something he would do.
It has been about white Americans
Why are you not addressing the fraud???
I would love to see more video interviews with our elected Democrats addressing what they plan to do as a coalition to fight, protect and "brawl" as AOC says in defense of Trump and his sycophants plans. We have their blueprint- what is the leadership's plan of action? How does this narrow margin in congress work in the fight?
It’s happening now. We’re raiding people living in fear. And then what are you going to do? What are we todo.
We told them the truth they believed the MAGA LIAR
I love your morning and evening updates. Keep 'em coming.
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I really don't want to hear about their regrets. It's too late now. One didn't even have to be knowledgeable about issues or even be aware of all the lies being told to know he has no place in this position. His disgusting rhetoric both during election cycle and all the years before that was enough in and of itself to know this guy should be nowhere near the Oval Office again. Put your vote where it should be next time, if there is a next time, and meanwhile spare us hearing about your regrets.
Wow
All I can say is . . . .
Well I can't say it here without being canceled, banned or suspended. Suffice it to say,looks like all that "free", very addictive RedPartyCult KoolAid isn't working so well. Now the hangover is all there is with no amount of guzzling can push down or mask your withdrawls.
So F the F OFF.
Unfortunately, I haven’t heard any maga speak out on their disappointment. All I read from them is how terrible President Biden was..is. Where are those comments?
They're the stooges clutching their pearls in Arizona. The "shock" they act out is glorious. Kinda like when the in your face anti-vaxers here started dropping dead. Can't help relishing their KARMA 🖕🏼 'em all
George , where are you ?
If you voted for Trump , these problems are on your shoulders!
You have an obligation to help us get it right !
We will have to deal with the next 4 years but we can do it together!
Don’t forget how you’re feeling this very moment !
Remember!!!
I hope someday the MAGAs will realize it was Trump who was the snake- and that they knew, or should have known, who he was when they took him in. I always saw that snake poem as an amazing piece of projection.
SCOTUS, MAGA Congress, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, LA Times, NY Times, X, Meta, etc, have insulated Trump, there won't be the intense backlash reported WHEN he violates the Constitution & fails to uphold the presidential oath. He's isolating people from each other because it's easier to control the uneducated and uninformed.
I don’t think Trump voters are disappointed. The immigrant households and communities who were duped, maybe. But the white man MAGAs? No way.
All of this is no surprise! He never was for the MAGA supporters in the first place! They were a means to an end. Everything was Bullshit!
Trump is insane, he's a LUNATIC, who in this world voted for this idiot, they must have been out of their mind.I hope trump will be held to account for the next 4 years.Putin/Russia are Laughing at trump/America, Trump is doing exactly what Putin wanted creating havoc in the West.
Way too many people were asleep at the wheel and now all of us are paying for it.
Perhaps being "woke" instead of asleep really is a good thing!
Everything that Trump is he has proven when he was President before. Now they’ll remember how it was like…so I expect major voter regrets.
First, my agreement with your words is absolute. However, the contempt in your voice had me stop listening. Who is your audience? If it's just versions of your outrage, it's just another echo chamber. If you want to attract people -- not Dems or Reps or MAGA -- and educate them, you have to open an opportunity for them to listen to you. If I don't want to listen to you, someone trying to understand where they went wrong certainly won't. "We told you so" does not begin the process of educating or uniting anyone. What is your goal here?
Sending love and hugs to you, your family and all affected by the wild fires. Stay safe
Ok well. I don´t really get what these Trump voters saw in the first place. He has been showing his true self since before the 2016 election. I mean, good on them for ”maybe” waking up, but my god… 10 years??? That was some serious hibernation!
I wasn’t aware of the song “The Snake” Trump had been using in speeches, until this article. Sad at the state of something between ignorance and studied indifference that immigrants might only now (and perhaps not even now!) start to understand that Trump sees them as “dirty and undesirable.” It’s not as if he hasn’t been saying and showing it for many years. Proof that people will see and believe what they want to. Or decide only to care about what they care about, for as long as possible.
Just ignorant libtard propaganda playing into the feeble minds of the democratic sheep
Great reporting Ben 👍🏼
I think people from other countries...legal immigrants... from say India, China, Haiti, South American countries etc (POC)...may not actually understand the depth of systemic racism and hatred of black, brown, and other races that exists in the US. They don't realize our country was founded on genocide of the indigenous culture/people (Indians), then we had slavery of the black peoples...and how those things have scared our culture, and are still alive in our country ...albeit more in the southern, and Appalachian area states (I lived in WV for ~20 years)...but I've also seen it even in California where I live now. When tRump says the mean hateful things he does about immigrants they don't realize he and his MAGA followers are speaking about them...I mean they're here legally, or even second generation immigrants, they pay taxes, they work hard, obey the laws, speak English...so why would they think he and his MAGA followers meant them?
It's sad 😔 to see they are getting torn up on social media by the right wing. It will be more sad when his minions start rounding immigrants up and putting them in camps awaiting deportation. They will arrest first and check paperwork second... if at all.
The immigrants are tRump's "other" his scape goats to blame all the US problems on...just like Hitler did in Nazi Germany to the Jewish people...tRump has even used Hiltler's verbiage they are "poisoning our blood", "they are vermin", "they are murders and rapists"...I'm not sure why those words were not a red flag to every immigrant in our country...maybe they weren't reported by the right-wing media? They seem to have fallen on deaf ears for those following tRump.
Anyway the left will be here with open arms to help...it will be a fight for all but we are stronger together!💙
Several experts have considered the question of Trump's first order on 20 January, especially if current Military leaders have not resigned by then and, in contrast to most politicians, have the courage to honour their oaths to the Constitution, rather than legitimise a ceremonial swearing in of a disqualified president elect.
Despite all the lying, disinformation, and ignorance, there are two things that seem to remain reliably "known". They are:
(1) The US Constitution still exist -- no authority has yet declared its actual death.
(2) Trump remains an insurrectionist -- no authority has declared he isn't, and only Congress can remove the disability.
Since the Constitution does not allow an insurrectionist to hold office, the very first order issued by Trump on 20 January would be invalid. Military leaders would be obliged to refuse an order to invade Greenland or Canada, for example, and to refuse to resign as well, until Congress has removed the disability.
Interestingly, presidents rely on the voluntary obedience of military leaders, and if that's lacking, even the Commander in Chief's power is limited. While generals can usually rely on their officers and men to follow orders, politicians' power rests with the electorate who, in this instance, have have been allowed to elect a president, but not to constitutionally qualify him.
Such an impasse would not be a rebellion but a reminder of points (1) and (2) above, with the solution readily available -- 2/3 vote in Congress.
The guy wanted a president with a dick and balls!!
Still, blowing up a cybertruck in front of a rump bldg just doesn't make any sense.
Thank you.
I will be back to make a contribution after I discuss this special need with my family
Please give me a few days to see what I can work out.
I am very concerned about what is happening in this country.
Towards the end of the video, Ben says "Were you not listening to his words?" Well no, they weren't. My sister is a MAGA voter and after the election as I was telling her about buyer's regret, I find out that even though I listened to 8 Trump speeches in their entir
Sorry (old, finger fumbling)) anyway, my point is she did not listen to even one Harris OR Trump speech but had unshakable beliefs about what they said from Fox News reports. She did not know, she does not know now. I'm so sad she has to find out with the rest of them...with the rest of us.
There are those in MAGA who are still hateful and lash out. Despite Trump winning the election, they are still ugly towards others. I don't think enough of them have figured things out to be of any help.
Buyer’s remorse will be swift and terrible. Midterm Congressional majority to the Democrats ?? I smell impeachment …..
They deserve everything that happens to them now.
They (maga) are finding out now! The head clown (dumpty) is blaming Gov. Newsom for the fires in southern California. I’d like to remind the magots in S. California they are lucky that Joe Biden & Gavin Newsom are working together to provide resources.. hmmm, would dumpty act the same? Nope, he would make Californians SUFFER because nobody raked the forests! No, we haven’t forgotten dumpty’s visit to NorCal during the fires in Paridise, CA.
To anyone impacted by the fires in SoCal, just know that NorCal is sending help to you, regardless of your political affiliation!
They have got to suffer really bad to be open to change. Even if their kids suffer, they'll blame it on the kids, not on Trump. Maybe if their grandchildren are threatened, they might take notice. But MAGA men want to be Trump and MAGA women wish Trump was their husband, with his $$$ and big talk (refusing to believe tht they may have to change a diaper every night)
They're All BONEHEADS!
The traitors of the working class, xenophobic immigrants and anyone who didn't vote for Harris deserve is going to happen them. Democrats need to stop helping people who isn't a hard left. If they didn't for Harris, let them die.
Yikes it’s about to get so bad for everyone but the billionaires!
Not happy with Meidas at the moment, upgraded to a paid subscription over a week ago but am still a "Free User", what happened to my paid subscription? I hope this wasn't a grift like something Trump would do.
Elon Musk was always that far extreme Right-Wing. He is from White South Africa. Very racist and his father became very wealthy. That is how Elon Musk got his start, just like Donald Trump. He is just as narcissistic, just as much of a liar, just as selfish and lacking in human emotions (except adolescent pettiness, bullying, anger, etc). He just didn't fritter away all of his money like Trump did or he is much more intelligent in what he invests his money in. He sucks at running business he starts, as late by as he doesn't try to run things himself, he dies very well.
Thank you guys (including women) for being here.
There are many, many Trump voters who were just sitting ducks. They have been subject daily and for decades to neurological re-wiring (a.k.a. brainwashing) -- quite intentionally and fraudulently-- by Fox "News" and the rest of the mercenary media propagandists. Many no longer able to understand or admit the humiliation of that fraud perpetrated on them by those who created it, and the forces that enabled it.
Trump is hanging on to literacy by his tiny manicured fingernails, if at all. That poem, The Snake, isn't his, he didn't write it.
Really? He didn't know MAGA was racist? Did he not see footage of Jan 6? Did he not notice that everyone there was white and most were members of some white supremacist group? Just because you deny that something exists doesn't mean that it doesn't actually exist. He might just want to keep his eyes closed because things are only going to get worse.
I would love to hear from any former MAGAs, who may have ever gone to his rallies that may be on this channel now after realizing how bad they have been played
DT’s lies are the biggest grift against the American citizens
Leak the fucking report NOW! I paid for it and I want to see it.
Leak the fucking report NOW! I paid for it and I want to see it.
By the way, you guys are great, particularly Ron Filipkowski. Best paid subscription I ever had since Mad Magazine 60 years ago.
They’ll still vote for him, because they are idiots.
Wait? White Americans are angry & don't like to be called "lazy", "stupid", "unqualified" ... As a Black person, allow me to give you a tip : unless you have been called that and worse for 200 years - how do y'all put it? Oh right : "suck it up snowflakes".
Or as we say in my community - "Oh nigga please ..." 🤨
I think the talk about Greenland, Canada etc., is because the NWO has the globe divided up into "regions" instead of countries. Hes right with the program.
Please let us get a live action version of "The Cats of Kilkenny" 😈
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Is Trump going to put a 20-25% tariff on cherry and cheese Danish in an effort to usurp control of Greenland to the United States? Is he that thigh-slapping crazy? Yes, he is but he thinks he’s dealing with the Duchy of Grand Fenwick! The Good Ship Lollipop has sprung a leak and she’s going DOWN!
*Checks cupboard for f**ks*
Nope. All out. FAFO.
Slaves are no longer from Africa. We are from everywhere around the world!
And to boot, egg prices are up today to $6/$7 per dozen. Up, up, up just like disapproval ratings for Trump. What a coincidence 🤪
$100 was charged to my Visa account at the end of December. I am now canceling my subscription and expect a full refund. As an elderly retiree, that is out of my budget.
We want Trump Disqualified... There is no Justice... He and his oligarchs are burning down our country....bs
He is already disqualified, 14th Amendment section 3. What we need are officials with spines to enforce the Constitution they've sworn to defend, and aren't.
“Nigel Faraj has more principles than Elon Musk.”
Richest man in the world? Putin's puppet for Putin's financial gain.
If they are masculinity say I'm from Missouri "Show me" Go build a house, grow a garden, hunt to put food on the table. Either that or you all are not real men!! You are spoiled babies, pathetic!!
Josh Hawley. Big man. Hah.
Does not it seem that this is a good time to get through to them?
Opportunity is not a lengthy visitor.
I’m not buying that yet…
I so agree Jan.
Because stupid racists elected him. Biden can’t wave a magic wand and save our sad asses. Don’t say, “Immunity,” as the corrupt supremes gave themselves an out, that they get to decide if a president’s action is within the job description. Stop blaming the good guys. That’s part of why we’re here.
Stop yelling.
There's no magic wand, but those two keep acting like they don't have any business calling a spade a spade now that the election was over. WHY NOT TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING HERE?
If the shoe were on the other foot, the election would still be in dispute.
You are bad at recognizing where the blame should fall. Read bad!
Exactly, fellow commenter Dale. I believe it is unacceptable that President Biden and Vice President Harris who we believed were capable of the responsibilities of their offices have refused to fulfill their sworn oaths of office at usa.gov/inauguration to defend the Constitution and We the People from domestic and foreign enemies including Trump, Musk, Putin and many others in their treasonous WWIII Axis! Biden even just promised in his State of the Union speed that we would not bow down to Russia and its domestic and global forces who have infiltrated the entire GOP Party, not just Trump's family.
With the compromised Supreme Court, Congress and the 4th branch of government of the mainstream press ALL bowing down to the oligarchs, our Commander-in-Chief must wield the Executive Branch and our military with fierce love for our country to responsibly protect our nation and us all right now as they should have been doing since 2021 after promising that if we wisely elected Joe Biden, he would save our democracy and us from our enemies. STILL WAITING with shock at what we are being forced to keep enduring at the hands and minds of the villainous GOP party of traitors, who has blocked much-needed progress in this country and globally for DECADES when it comes to fulfilling promised and declared human rights, equal opportunities, and a livable planet.
Washington, Lincoln and FDR never would have succumbed and rolled out the red carpet for national enemy Trump. All the appeasement the Biden-Harris Administration is shamefully doing and exhibiting is an unwarranted and nationally fatal exercise in futile bipartisanship when one party is the ENEMY of this country now and our American society.
We who voted, volunteered, donated and helped them and the very wide and necessary agenda we demanded to improve and save our country expected and deserved far better from the Biden-Harris Administration including their much-delayed responsibility to declare Article 5 with U.S. NATO so we could better defeat Trump and Putin's Axis of Dictators together and now, not separately so weak and never. They need to act with as much force as necessary NOW to protect us, our nation, and our allies for democracy, too, or be forever known as those who committed the gravest dereliction of duties!
You have a point. So far, taking the high road hasn't been much of a strategy, has it.
CNN caved.
They are not real news anymore
Then asked whom they polled
CNN….really? Remember that they are Corporate media. They are sanewashing Trump!
That is bullshit - not possible - CNN's new position on politics - boot lickers
The only satisfaction will be watching thrm suffer too. I have no Sympathy for them at all.
Exactly
Bigger percentage of the us that didn’t vote for him.
What were these voters thinking? Believing?
I heard a Maga in a call in show say, "We don't want a moral leader. We want someone who will lower prices." 'Nuf said.
The statement about the moral leader has got to be the most pathetic one I have heard
Yeah. Who could ever think of Trump as a "moral leader"?
Depends on what your morals are. Even not having any is a moral position. Think in terms of 0 to 100. Jimmy Carter is 99.9999. Mump is .000000000000000000000001.
I have a friend, a former Canadian I am ashamed to say, who voted for Trump because she wants America to be white....or at least for America to be a place where whites are ascendant. She liked the deportation plan and the hope of a sealed border.
For your own peace of mind. It's time make that Former Canadian a Former Friend!
I certainly don't feel the same about her after hearing that. She also repeated that MAGA line about not liking Kamala Harris' "cackle"...that really bothered me. Is using that term racist, sexist or both?
You are referring to a racist as a "friend"??
Yes, there is really no going back after hearing stuff like that. She's more of an acquaintance now...
Don't you hate that? When someone says something like that, I lose total respect and/or affection for them.
I hear you, but I also reflect on my personal mantra "people make bad choices for powerful reasons". Her racism is born of fear. That is both pitiable and pitiful at the same time.
well, be sure you tell her exactly why before you do these people need to have negative reactions to the racism. Call them out wherever you see them.
Hah! And they will get NEITHER!!
At least they're honest. Too bad they're only getting half of what they wanted.
Being honest about their bigotry isn't the flex some might believe it to be.
Double nothing. Eat your heart out, MAGAt!
Either way they’re screwed cause he’s none of those
I think mostly there were worried about the price of eggs.
The avian flu has the possibility of devastating egg and meat production…
For many of them, their thoughts were, and even are, no longer their own. As I just commented, the manipulation of their ability to perceive fact has been a decades-long project of right-wing mercenary media, in the propaganda business for nothing more brutal than exploitation of those who got sucked into the cult unknowingly, and whise brains can't quite understand that they are even more victimized than they thought -- manipulated by the long-term effort to take over their perceptions.
I agree re disinformation and propaganda, but 49% of us voters DID NOT believe the bullshit. We were equally exposed, yet we chose truth, justice, fairness in the workplace, bodily autonomy for women, empathy and try to build community. So I ask, why didn’t we choose to drink the drugged koolaid of MAGA? Many of these are not low information voters. I believe they choose based on grievances, they blame the victims for their current circumstances rather than looking at corporate America. Do I feel sorry for them? No. Are some of them good people? They may not be axe murderers, but they have deep prejudices, believe bad shit shouldn’t be happening to them, and/or refuse to think for themselves.
All Trump voters need to look at their motives, of course. True, there are the truly cynical who literally bet against themselves as Americans, as well as against American democracy, out of greed, out of fear, or just out of antipathy towards other options, without considering the ramifications.
But there are some people, who for whatever reason, usually psychological, are more vulnerable than others to manipulation by sociopaths such as Trump. That is why con men, for example, can pick out of a crowded room who will be an easy mark and who won't. If they can find those at a psychological low-point in their lives, or who feel otherwise that they have been betrayed or treated unfairly, they make the best marks.
MAGA emerged because for decades now, there has been steady, creeping spread of ideas on the right which, under the guise of American individualism and an unrealistic idealization of the so-called "free market" economy, argued against that investment in our future, in all kinds of ways.
That is one reason why, to my mind, those among the least politically active or aware, as well as those who either consciously or by default chose personal wealth over societal investment, share the blame for what has happened -- because It has always been incumbent upon all Americans to strengthen the fairness of our society -- if not out of a sense of social responsibility -- then for our own protection.
The bottom line is, our messaging did not work. Campaigning by spending a BILLION dollars in the 1980's paradigm did not win.
Michael Steele and Bryan Cohen talk it out, here: https://youtu.be/08ZCjACPV7s
It's not the substance, it's the venue and the delivery.
Unfortunately I have to agree with that… too many right wing echo chambers of disinformation and not enough exposure to this from the left.
And that comment in and of itself is sad.
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Thinking? Not! Believing? Everything!
I don't plan to forgive them.
Agree
Not only "the rest of the country." i.e. MAGA voters , are to blame, as we are all suffering from years of Democrat passivity in the face of Mitch McConnell/Federalist Society treachery (ongoing passivity, still, -- ahem, Merrick Garland). How wrong have those Dems been who thought "the high road" would be a way around this political and governmental disaster. The failures to fight back began long ago.
A great majority in this country have low IQ’s. That’s why this country is in decline. Idiocracy.
I feel the same. Ready to fight for our country, it’s people and the planet!
I'm convinced they live in a completely different reality. One that we can not see...AT ALL. It's frustrating and we will all suffer but I believe maga will suffer the most (which, sadly, I don't have any fucks to give them).
And not only the US will suffer from this election! His actions will de-stabilize the US and end de-stabilizing the whole western world!