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Roger Loeb's avatar

"The United States sent a couple real estate guys and a venture capitalist." Wrong. The United States sent three grifters.

Update: based on the results, perhaps we should have sent some experienced negotiators who understood the give and take instead of a bully and two bozos. Trump just keeps digging us into a deeper and deeper hole.

Gail Dragoo's avatar

That’s right and why does the Trump administration think they have any leverage here? They started this conflict for no reason except BibI wanted more firepower behind Israel. These clowns need to go home. They need to dump that smarmy little bastard Kushner off somewhere in Russia.

Katelyn's avatar

They got played by Israel, but they’ll never admit it. One of the reasons we’re still in this mess.

Ann Neises's avatar

Isreal is the state that needs a Regime change. Netanyahu is the one stirring up the war for his own power purposes. He wants to be like Trump and Putin. Not sure why the people of Isreal back him as he had never been well liked by the people. Actually, Israel and USA both need a Regime change!!!

Carol's avatar

Other than our politicians attachment to the AIPAC money, why do we keep sending arms and money to Israel so Bibi can continue to blow up the Middle East? This has been going on for years. Or did I already list the reason?

jim king's avatar

IMPEACH AND DUMP TRAITORS, NAZIS PREDATORS AND ENABLERS , IMPERIALIST CRIMINALS, WAR MONGERS, CAREER CRIMINALS, CRIMINAL GRIFTERS, FASCIST PIGS, FRAUDSTERS, RACIST, AND CON REPUBLICONS EVERYWHERE. RELEASE ALL UNREDACTED EPSTEIN FILES AND JAIL CON RTRUMP. AVOID CON RTRUMP'S AND THE REPUBLICON'S RECESSION AND DEPRESSION. FIX CLIMATE CHANGE, FOR THE FAIR DEAL, NOT THE RAW DEAL. VOTE BLUE AND SAVE DEMOCRACY. STOP THE RTRUMP OLIGARCHY. BOYCOTT CRIMINAL RTRUMP & ELON THE NAZIS.

Marilyn's avatar

Didn't they get played by Saudi Arabia as well. There is no love lost between the Sunnis and Shiites. The Iranian Ayatollahs are itching to take over the entire mideast. Israel is in their way. Thus, they have long wanted to get rid of Israel. Their proxies: Hezbollah, Hamas and Houtis are out to murder Israelis on a daily basis.

Susan Raquel's avatar

I read an article that says this "war" is serving to unite all the people you mentioned against the common enemy. Good job trump. :-(

Lori Anderson's avatar

Ur right. Why do they think they have any leverage here? The answer is....They don't know how to think. They are all under qualified. They DEFINITELY got played.

Katrina Nuciforo's avatar

Cons grifters liars scammers billionaires gives 2-3 billion and a big jet bordello to orange ass hole and mannequin Jared give me a break. I’m insulted as an American my God they need to get in prison too impersonating USA government with their pockets wide open

Diane in Ohio's avatar

The US needs to distance themselves from Netanyahu. And no...this is not antisemitism.

bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

It's long past time to assess our relationship with Israel with a very cold eye. Treat them as another ally that has its own national and/political interests.

Turn off the spigot of aid. If Bibi is determined to lay waste to thr Middle East then he can pay for it himself.

Marilyn's avatar

Actually Iran, Hezbollah and the Houtis are determined to lay waste to Israel.

Vincent Domeraski's avatar

Sure. But shouldn’t we at least make it our policy on military aid isn’t always a given? Bibi assumes that the US will always give him cover, no matter how many war crimes he commits. American Jews are not as unified as it might appear on the subject.

Carol Bushnell's avatar

Bibi has so much intel on Trump that it won't happen until the orange shell of a human is gone.

Vincent Domeraski's avatar

What did he have on all the other, including Biden?

Carol Bushnell's avatar

US has helped Israel for decades. Biden wasn't a dumbass stooge who followed along with Bibi.

Vincent Domeraski's avatar

No he wasn’t a dumbass stooge. He made the only rational decision in view of what would happen if he appeared to be abandoning Israel. He would have spent the rest of his administration on the defensive, when his whole effort was to accomplish something meaningful for all of us.

C Bowlby's avatar

Exactly, Agreed! Also cut off all $ and weapons,ammo,radar systems, and clear out any military personel-active or advisory! We USA taxpayers do not get universal Healthcare here, yet we send Israel bils$so they can provide healthcare to all their people! WTF???!

Complete halt and retreat from mideast advised! Afterall, USA has no business there in the past, present, or future! The only true reason I can think we're there now-rump graft stream!

Marilyn's avatar

The fact that we don't get universal heath care has nothing to do with Israel. Don't you know why we don't get universal healthcare?

jim king's avatar

IMPEACH AND DUMP TRAITORS, NAZIS PREDATORS AND ENABLERS , IMPERIALIST CRIMINALS, WAR MONGERS, CAREER CRIMINALS, CRIMINAL GRIFTERS, FASCIST PIGS, FRAUDSTERS, RACIST, AND CON REPUBLICONS EVERYWHERE. RELEASE ALL UNREDACTED EPSTEIN FILES AND JAIL CON RTRUMP. AVOID CON RTRUMP'S AND THE REPUBLICON'S RECESSION AND DEPRESSION. FIX CLIMATE CHANGE, FOR THE FAIR DEAL, NOT THE RAW DEAL. VOTE BLUE AND SAVE DEMOCRACY. STOP THE RTRUMP OLIGARCHY. BOYCOTT CRIMINAL RTRUMP & ELON THE NAZIS.

Vincent Domeraski's avatar

I think the point is that overall the US spends most of our money on the military and not on services that for Americans at home. Our entanglement with Israel is a unique and very expensive obligation, certainly dwarfing our commitment to NATO, for example. We just spent a billion dollars a day on a thirty day war to help create a buffer for Israel.

Nancy Parker's avatar

It is and has always been about oil, in the Middle East [ or West Asia, as the residents thereof have pointed out]. Corporate profit. And Britain before us, the same.

Vincent Domeraski's avatar

And now American policy is to create more markets for oil and to fend off the inevitable switch to renewable energy. It certainly isn’t about national security as it was a hundred years ago.

C Bowlby's avatar

USA has no dog in this fight!

Vincent Domeraski's avatar

Not anymore. Iran and Israel are making all the key decisions and Donald is promoting prize fights on

our dime at our White House.

Marilyn's avatar

I don't like Netanyahu either. What do you mean by distance themselves from Netanyahu?

Diane in Ohio's avatar

Netanyahu is corrupt and has been under indictment for years. But he keeps starting wars so they can't hold elections, replace him, and finally prosecute him. I think Israel could be a good ally with the right leader.

bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

I understand that Israel has legitimate security concerns.

What I don't understand is Netanyahu basically laying waste to Gaza,reducing it to rubble. That appears to be treating every Palestinian as automatically Hamas.

It's been so appalling.

Marilyn's avatar

Give a lot of credit to Hamas as well. The Gazans could have made a fortune with their waterfront property. Instead, they elected terrorists.

Judy Sherwood's avatar

You tell 'em Gail!!!

What a foolish, inept bunch of ignorant nincompoops. These guys can't even negotiate their way out of a paper bag.

C Bowlby's avatar

Russia &putin is smart. Will refuse delivery

Linda Harris's avatar

Talk about the 3 stooges.

WJB Motown's avatar

Who......Jeffries, Schumer and Booker???..........right...probably not.......they are all MIA and hanging with crickets.

Diane's avatar

Ah, you are attempting to distract from the three arrogant grifters (2 real estate guys +1 venture capitalist) on our team facing off with a much larger Iranian team of highly educated, knowledgeable experts.

WJB Motown's avatar

Not at all......just waiting for leaders, for a vibrant..forceful anti-war oppsition party to answer a wake up call. Is that distraction from men, women and children being killed mercilisly by 2 Hitler wanna be despots.....and crickest oppose them???

Glena's avatar

You are so wrong and you can’t even see how dangerous Trump and co. are right now.

WJB Motown's avatar

Who is out there calling Trump out EVERYDAY........I know McTacotits is a dementia ridden..child rapist...chronic case of Narcissitic Personality Disorder......look in the mirror!!!!

Sharon Siba's avatar

I have to agree with you that the Democrats are woefully silent in all of this. Maybe they are just waiting for Trump to hang himself. It sure looks like that could happen, but he will throw everyone under the bus when the proverbial 💩 hits the fan and a noose goes around his neck (hypothetically speaking).

It's actually humorous watching Trump spar with Iranian officials who give back as good as they get, or better. This war into which Trump inserted his fat a$$ should never have happened. Trump sided with one devil, Netanyahu, against another devil, the Iranian Ayatollah. Netanyahu never wanted a peaceful end to this war between Israel and Palestine until he got what he wanted, the takeover of Gaza and the West Bank,the genocide of Palestinians in both, and an end to the Islamic terrorism. I can't agree with what the Islamic terrorist groups do, but without their help Palestine would have fallen a long time ago.

One thing Iran did successfully over all these long years, they became extremely wealthy and quietly built up an arsenal of weapons unlike anyone, especially Trump and Hegseth imagined. Iran also made friends with Russia's Putin. The became strategic, if evil partnerships.

This will not end well for anyone in my opinion. No matter the outcome world relationships with the US will never be the same. Nothing will change in the Middle East unless one or the other is nearly annihilated. Terrorism will be a massive threat again and no matter what, Trump will claim victory!

Linda Harris's avatar

Great post. Not really any winners. Iran is on top but they have to rebuild most of their infrastructure. The US has lost all credibility around the world and it will take a very long time to get it back. Israel wants to rule the Middle East so I don't know how it will turn out for them.

WJB Motown's avatar

Great job!! Your posting is really sums up the situation. IT should be an easy lay-up for the Democrats. They need to be out there everyday, taking over the narative. It is unbelievable....but Schumer said "Israel gets everything they need."

It is too early to know the winners and losers. USA is the #1 loser for sure........no the Palestinians and Lebanon are the biggest losers for sure.

I just watched a really good YOUTUBE video "Melania's Move...Crisis or Exit Plan" . Lawyer and ex White House insider Molly McPherson covered it all perectly. Molly removed the blinders on what happend Thursday.

And yes.......even in total defeat.......Trump will claim victory.

Aaron Hird's avatar

Iran has made alliances based on 2 main criteria.. their own continued existence, and to protect against their key aggressors - America and Israel.

Evil alliances? Probably not untrue..

But from Irans perspective, fundamentally and existentially necessary. Not necessarily cos they WANT to ally with Russia etc, but who else can they ally with who will actually stand against their enemies with them, when everyone else they COULD ally with is already contractually obligated via trade or alliance etc to support America??

When you dont have many options even the snake becomes a viable option.. cant be any worse than the spider theyre already under threat from.

Aaron Hird's avatar

Almost every single one of those 'terrorist groups' were created by Israeli aggression and us interference.

They're essentially mirrors of Israeli terror tactics and espionage and interference. Hezbollah exists cos Israel invaded and annexed part of Lebanese territory which they still hold. If they returned it, apologised, and promised not to instigate further aggression without cause against Lebanon, theyd probably find Hezbollah (as a group, some individuals and splinter groups might not) would stand down from further aggression against Israel.

Same with Hamas.

Same with pretty much every single anti-israel group (except the actual antisemitic religious zealots fighting cult wars over who's got the right god fiction) has been created as a direct response to Israeli aggression and expansionist agendas.

In fact, the 2 state solution has failed predominantly because of Israeli aggression and efforts to expand their borders, cos theyre not satisfied with what they have, which fits their traditional boundaries from before they were expelled and the diaspora era began.

Sharon Siba's avatar

I agree with youi that many of the Islamic terrorist groups now are reactions to Netanyahu and Israel, but I have to remind you of the anti-American, anti modern, western world terrorists that cropped up in many Middle Eastern countries around the time the twin towers were attacked. They were soldiers of Muslim terrorist groups who believed our modern way of life was sinful enough that it warranted being crushed. They aren't innocents. But that wasn't a significant threat since Bin Laden and Sadam Hussein were killed and the Middle East was left to their own devices. The beliefs are still there though.

Aaron Hird's avatar

Are some groups from the middle east just straight up terror groups? Absolutely.

Does that negate the fact that some are literally responses to American imperialism?

Not even remotely.

Some groups have genuine grievances, and as such have a right to 'fight the good fight'.

Others just want power and control for themselves and use their cult to justify their actions.

They are the enemy they claim to fight, the terrorists exporting terror for no other reason than to exploit the fear generated in order to obtain and maintain their own power.

Which makes sense.. considering thats how their cults originated in the first place.. as political propaganda selling fear and barbarism as salvation.

Linda Harris's avatar

I meant vance, kushner and witkoff but you just listed 3 more that fit the bill. We are only in the crisis of the times so where is congress? Oh yeah recess, or is it still the shut down. I forget since they have hardly been in office since trump's 2nd term.

WJB Motown's avatar

Remember when President Obama was in power? The GOP never stopped attacking him from all sides.....all day...every day.. Where is the Democrat opposition??? Lost in Space???? ...what I hear is the "Sounds of Silence".

Aaron Hird's avatar

Tell me.. how much do you actually expect from a major minority? Trump controls the whitehouse with his republicunt bootlickers.

But of the republicunts called for article 25, the dems would likely all vote immediately 'yes'. Not that they would need to if the entire republicunt party voted yes.

Unfortunately, there is still far too many that support trump, and the bill would likely fail.

What they're trying to do (the dems) is get people to wake up to the damage trump has done, encourage them to vote correctly at the midterms, and swing the balance of power in favour of the dems who can then use their majority to force the issue.

However, I think thats a bad idea. That still gives him another 6 months to screw up the country - and the rest of the world - bad enough that there won't be any midterms cos you will be in a major conflict, with elections suspended and martial law in place.

America literally engineered an amendment into the constitution that allows for american citizens to legally take up arms against a corrupt government. And for years americans on both sides of the fence have bragged about how they can protect their country from despots thanx to that amendment.

Where are they all now?? 2A was everywhere during Bidens term. Many threats and even an insurrection incited by trump. There were even mentions of it against Obama - one of the better presidents America has had, especially over the last 60 years.

But for Trump??

Nothing but fucking crickets.

America either waits and hopes the system will work..

Or it stands up to take the cunt down before he takes America down.

And right now? Thanx to Trump, America is literally on the razors edge of insolvency as a nation. He's already taking America down.

The country had a civil war to end slavery.

Maybe its time for another to prevent something worse.

Madam Geoffrin's avatar

Not sure there’s much of a difference between grifters and real estate guys/venture capitalists.

C Bowlby's avatar

Sending these guys to negotiate is an automatic slap in Irans face ! Before 1 word is spoken!

RobsSister's avatar

Dewey, Cheatem and Howe

(IYKYK) 😋

Geoffrey Fox's avatar

Failed businessmen that all are criminals

Donovan Marley's avatar

Every one of America’s allies should send the same message to the international pariah, Donald Trump: “We want nothing to do with you. You are a war criminal. You will be arrested, tried, convicted, and punished for Crimes Against Humanity.”

Donald Trump’s war against Iran—(launched without Congressional authorization)—is but the latest in a series of his crimes against the American people and freedom-loving people around the world.

On January 6, 2021, Trump tried to overthrow the government of the United States—a blatant act of treason. A supermajority of Americans condemns both Trump’s treasonous 2021 attack on a joint session of Congress, and his 2026 criminal attack on Iran.

This supermajority also condemns Trump’s Gestapo-like ICE deployments that murder and maim those who oppose his domestic crimes. Internationally, it condemns his criminal invasion and exploitation of Venezuela and his larcenous designs on Cuba, Greenland, and other sovereign nations.

America’s supermajority vehemently condemns Trump’s sexual predations, his fraudulent financial dealings, his sales of pardons to criminal oligarchs, his murders committed on the high seas, his deployments of the U.S. military against the American people, and—most of all—this supermajority condemns Trump’s compulsive and continual lying.

As reported by Fox News, on November 18, Trump’s Presidency was approved by 38% of Americans; 60% disapproved. And, Trump’s approval has continued to plummet.

Every aspect of Trump’s Presidency is now condemned by a supermajority of the American people. This supermajority will not rest until Trump—and his Neo-Nazi enablers—are removed from office, prosecuted for treason, convicted, and punished as dictated by the Constitution.

Susan Gorman Gerke's avatar

Although real estate guys and venture capitalist are often euphemisms for grifters, particularly in trumps lexicon.

Aaron Hird's avatar

You do understand that there was no legitimate interest in the negotiations succeeding right?

Otherwise Trump and a real negotiation team would have been there.

Trump wants the war to continue, because Netanyahu wants the war to continue.. and no doubt theres plenty of oligarchs pushing for war because they will get richer, take more control, and put the other side, we will ALL have been robbed of everything, left with nothing, and told we need to be grateful and happy for it.

And you want proof of this reality??

What the fuck do you think corporations world peace is actually about??

Its not about world peace.

Its about controlling the world under the will and whim of one person - Trump.

Only the cunts too stupid to understand what comes next, if he succeeds..

Which will most likely be his head on a pike and someone even worse.. actually intelligent, but far more brutal, much less empathetic, and purely about serving their own greed and lust for power.

It will be interesting to see how the world will deal with a corporation built within international corporate rules (which to my knowledge include no caveats against corporatising something like world peace) that NATIONS have signed onto, paid for, and are now contractually obligated to adhere to..

Or become the 'Enemy of Peace' and a target of every other contractually obligated member state.

Trump doesnt want these negotiations to succeed. He needs them to fail, so he can use it to justify deploying his contractually obligated army against his perceived enemies. All of whom will control resources he wants to own and control and directly profit from, just as he has been profiting from being president, with insider trading and other corrupt acts.

Trump is either the most inept criminal in the world, or hes an evil genius, setting up conflict and economic instability globally, destabilising nations, creating conflicts, all of which make it easier for him to step in and take control.. he either knows what hes setting up, or hes just blindly fumbling in the dark and smashing everything in the room trying to find the door handle.

Roger Loeb's avatar

No disagreement! Trump gets confused but he's far from inept. I suspect he's receiving mixed messages from his handlers. There are too many wizards behind the curtain, they represent highly different objectives, and Trump is incapable of sorting and aligning the messages. The resulting chaos is intended, because it obscures the conflicting agendas.

Extra Ordinary Man's avatar

I didn’t need to read past your headlines. They said it all.

Of course Israel is sabotaging the negotiations, and of course the American team of negotiators are incompetent.

Daniel Solomon's avatar

IMHO everyone involved, including Meidas, needs a course in transactional analysis.

If I were negotiating on behalf of the US, I'd offer the Iranians thorium technology in exchange for a ban on utnium.

I'd threaten to displace every fossil fueled vehicle with EVs. I'd threaten OPEC to produce 100% more in places like Nigeria and Venezuela.

Extra Ordinary Man's avatar

But that would be a sane thing to do. It doesn’t apply in this situation.

Angelia's avatar

But Trump is Oil. He is planning on destroying everything we have been trying to protect for more oil. He hates America and Americans.

Katrina Nuciforo's avatar

But he LOVES OUR TAX DOLLARS IN HIS POCKETS 💸💸💸💸💸💸

Extra Ordinary Man's avatar

I think it’s that he wants more, more of everything. And, he’ll do anything to accomplish that. Literally anything.

Linda Harris's avatar

trump is a puppet to so many but one of the biggest puppets is OIL What you state is of course true but this regime is actively destroying any form of non-fossil power. I do not know if they cannot grasp the idea that there is an end point to these elements or if they do not care.

Daniel Solomon's avatar

Even if there isn't, US oil is controlled by Saudi, a competitor for Irianian oil. Kushner has a conflict of interests. He should be a registered Saudi agent under FARA.

Prices in the US are a joke. We have enough domestic capacity that we don't need Iran (or OPEC) to set our domestic prices. Ironically Saudis control some US comnpanies and own the largest US refinery.

Extra Ordinary Man's avatar

Kushner shouldn’t be anywhere near the seat of power. He belongs in jail with his daddy in law, and all the rest of them.

Linda Harris's avatar

Kushner is on the Saudi payroll and has been for some time. He is also extremely tight with Netanyahu and wants Israel's best interests first.

Extra Ordinary Man's avatar

They truly don’t care. That, I believe is obvious.

C Bowlby's avatar

The rump string pullers have no grasp of reality!

A Mountain View's avatar

Run for office... please. Someone with a brain! What a fabulous concept.

C Bowlby's avatar

Need to appoint negotiators from outside the rump administration! To start with!

rump stinks and everyone knows it!

Jean Conley's avatar

So would I! Excellent statement, Daniel--ESPECIALLY the last paragraph. We should have done that YEARS ago--especially after the Oil Embargo back in 1973. Problem is, the Big Oil Barons (in the U.S.--supported by mostly republiCRAPS) had enough money and control to stifle ANY development of alternative sources of energy--especially for EV's.

Pamela S.'s avatar

Brilliant! 👌🏼

C Bowlby's avatar

Need a job Daniel, you're hired sir!

Daniel Solomon's avatar

I used to, as part of my job.

The trick is to get the BATNA and WATNA for each side. Identifying the BATNA (Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement) and WATNA (Worst Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement) for both parties is the foundation of any serious negotiation strategy.

Thomas Moore's avatar

If Lebanon is left out, then certainly so must Israel, meaning that Iran can continue sending missiles their way even if the US reaches an agreement on other matters. Unlikely though that is.

Extra Ordinary Man's avatar

Then, it seems, you believe Lebanon should continue to be annexed by Israel?

Stan's avatar

In order to do that, Israel has to continue to exist. That is becoming less assured as this goes on.

Extra Ordinary Man's avatar

I think the “to exist” as a cry to defend themselves has run its course. I believe they lost the high ground when they implemented genocide on the Palestinians.

Marilyn's avatar

What makes you think they are trying to annex Lebanon. Iran annexed it years ago and uses it to lob missiles and bombs into Israel. Is Israel trying to take over Jordan? Syria? Iraq? Turkey? Egypt? If you reply no, they explain why not.

Craig Berrington's avatar

Every country that has wanted peace with Israel has gotten peace with Israel. Lebanon was at peace with Israel until Hezbollah took over and joined Iran’s Death To Israel cult, and started attacking Israel. You would deny Israel the right to retaliate and protect itself. Why do you take that position?

No one believes that Iran is proposing a peace treaty where iran and its contractor Hezbollah would be prohibited from attacking Israel. Israel would be prohibited from retaliating, which it is doing now. Hezbollah would rearm and then start firing missiles against Israel again.

Extra Ordinary Man's avatar

I’m thinking you haven’t done enough research on what Israel wants. “From the river to the sea” and they weren’t kidding.

Marilyn's avatar

What would you do if your neighbor was continually lobbing missiles into your home? Do you understand that Iran is a hegemonic Muslim country? They and the Sunnis hate each other as much as they hate Israel. Do you understand that Iran would love to take over the entire mideast, the only Jewish country in the world is standing in their way. BTW, shouldn't the Jews of the world have a country to call their own?

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Is it just me or does anybody else see the timing with Swalwell's accusations a bit odd? I mean we all know Trump has a boner for California and is eager to see Steve Hilton as governor. That's no secret. I just wonder, why now? I'm not defending Swalwell if these accusations are true. I just find the timing a bit weird and the fact 4 woman came out on the same day. I also see investigations are moving rapidly against him but none for the sexual abusers in the Epstein files and the NUMBER ONE sexual abuser, Trump!

Angie's avatar

Indeed. I do believe women, but this stinks. We know the MAGAt party would love nothing more than to control the 50+ EC votes from CA. Treading lightly. We shall see.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Glad I'm not alone in thinking this. Yes, we shall see what happens. It is just very disappointing.

Deborah Hunter's avatar

We will never know if he's innocent because unless you get one of the women to recant their story, once accused, the stain is always there regardless of what the DA finds. And MAGA sure doesn't like the Manhattan DA.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

I was just saying that to my husband actually. Accusations such as these will never go away and will ruin one's life forever.

Deborah Hunter's avatar

And yet here is our president with pedophilia accusations and he's just fine.

Dee Cee's avatar

And don't forget Hegseth with assault allegations against him that were filed in 2017 (meaning they could not be politically motivated) and he, like trump, failed forward.

Jeannie Neighorn's avatar

Since Patel’s efforts to reopen an old and settled case against Swallwell (sp) was slapped down by the courts, this seems a little too unlikely. I usually do trust the women, but not surprised with a MAGA accusation. This is sickening if it’s what I think it smells like.😔😡

Dee Cee's avatar

I keep thinking of Tara Reade. If MAGA learned anything from that episode, it's that they needed more than one accuser.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

I agree. More than likely the reason for four.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Yes, this is a new MAGA low for sure if it turns out untrue!

Martha Kenne's avatar

Agreed. Very fishy, as folks have said, and needs to be thoroughly investigated. Very, very disappointing...I have always liked/respected Swalwell, and I'm from Minnesota .

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

I'm so glad I'm not the only one with these suspicions. Let's see what happens.

William Keefer's avatar

I feel the same way, why is it that the accusers always come out during any election? Makes you wonder what the pedophile Trump has his hands in this?

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Exactly! I smell Trump's stench all over it! The timing is bugging me!

Deborah Hunter's avatar

Call Roger Stone up and get an idea from his bag of tricks. GOP will stop at nothing to win elections.

Stan's avatar

I know nothing about Swalwell’s politics, but this kind of accusation and its timing is typical of Israeli election interference. See if that suspicion has legs.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

I agree! The timing is very suspicious to me.

WJB Motown's avatar

Satanyahu paying off 4 women to lie about sexual assault?? Maybe one or two......

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

That wouldn't surprise me in the least. The timing! It's very suspicious!

Marilyn's avatar

Israeli interference? How is that?

Jessica Holliday's avatar

Timing suspect. Trump just screwed up the CA Gov race for the Rs. It had looked like the top two candidates surviving the jungle primary would by the two R candidates. Then Trump endorsed one of them, despite the CA Rs asking him to stay out of the race & not endorse. After that blow to their chances, Comer was going to publish a FBI file on unproven failed allegations against Swalwell but WaPo wrote a story on it; Swalwell sued to block. Now - round three - 4 women made allegations on the same day and never before this. The Manhattan ? DA is investigating. Who is orchestrating this?

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

It's crazy, Jessica! I smell Trump and MAGA all over this. Trump is dying for California. He will stop at nothing to get it. I really hate that Newsom's term is ending!

Jessica Holliday's avatar

Certainly Trump is behind the Manhattan DA. The Chinese have gone after Swalwell in the past. This seems like the Russians. CA the fourth largest economy in the world. The R party in CA has been in trouble for years. Trump, Bannon, Roger Stone - you name it - the Rs have been doing dirty tricks since Nixon.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

They never stop! So corrupt!

SFGal's avatar

Me, too, Joanne, with all you state, especially losing Gavin! If only, like Obama!

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

We need Gavin for our president.

SFGal's avatar

I agree, no matter what all the nay-sayers publicize, Joanne.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

I'll vote for him in a heartbeat! 😉

Dee Cee's avatar

Absolutely agree. And as far as California goes, at this point I'd support secession.

(Sorry Joanne, but we'd love to have you move back!).

Marliss Desens's avatar

I don't see Gavin as president.

Carthago Delenda Est's avatar

Who then?

I know it's 2 years off, but who do you see running?

Jessica Holliday's avatar

CBS reports that it was influencer Cheyenne Hunt and former Cong. Katie Porter (candidate for Governor) are source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/katie-porter-influencer-cheyenne-hunt-eric-swalwell-allegations/

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

What?! Wasn't Katie Porter running for governor as well? Wait, isn't she still??

Jessica Holliday's avatar

Former Congressman Porter // still Candidate for Governor Porter

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Thanks for clarifying. That's what I thought. Crazy!

Deborah Hunter's avatar

I do find the timing suspect. However, it's more than one woman and the Manhattan DA is investigating. There was also the issue of the Chinese girl friend several years ago. I hate to think any of it's true, but they just didn't make up the date/time/location. Something has to correspond with the story. Do I think that MAGA would do anything or say anything to ruin his career? Absolutely. That's the problem with these stories that weren't reported at the time. No physical evidence and usually it's he said versus she said. I think the Cali system of potentially having 2 people of the same party running for the same office stinks. Who ever voted for that?

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

It just seems very fishy to me. I hope it's not true but damn! We have to see what happens next. So disappointing. I really liked him.

Deborah Hunter's avatar

I liked him too, but projection also can be coming from a Dem as well as a MAGA. He's been pretty vocal about all the MAGA bad behavior. I live in Vegas, not Cali. So doubtful I would have heard any gossip about him prior to this. Maybe those on here from Cali have some input to that.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

I was born and raised in California. We just recently relocated to New York. California is still my home but now I'm a registered voter in NY. Swalwell wasn't my congressman but I've been following him throughout this Trump ordeal; he's not a fan.

Deborah Hunter's avatar

I'd like to be in a blue state. I used to live in NY state, but that was decades ago. Nevada is purple. You just never know here. The GOP is vicious and nuts in this state.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

I was fortunate to go from one blue state to another.

SFGal's avatar

Same here, Joanne!

Marliss Desens's avatar

I also find it odd that a story emerged this morning that the Democratic candidate for governor of Ohio had the police at her house in 2019 on a domestic violence call. Some of the information is disputed, which suggests the Republicans are attempting to twist it.

Republicans must be very worried about the elections to start slinging the mud so early.

I don't know about Swawell and will wait to see where the investigation goes. I recall a woman making an accusation against Biden during the 2020 campaign that was fully investigated by the media and found to be without merit.

Dee Cee's avatar

Yeah, that was the Tara Reade mess. I think she ended up defecting to Russia, if I remember correctly.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Wow, really?! I have not heard about it. They are truly desperate!

Kelvin Hobbs's avatar

It may have been an attack on Swalwell, a Dem frontrunner, undertaken now to mitigate the damage caused last weekend by 47’s politically unsavvy (ok, stupid) endorsement of 1 of 2 GOP candidates who securely held the 1 and 2 spots in CA’s “jungle primary” for CA Governor. The top two vote-getters advance to the November election, even if they are of the same party, which almost certainly would have shut out the Dems. By endorsing one of the two, 47 does what the Dems would have had to pay a lot to do, attack one, using a divide and conquer strategy, to oust one from the 2-spot and replace him with a Dem. So much for the man who knows so much that he knows nothing.

See, Trump endorsing Hilton may help keep California governorship in Democratic hands; CalMatters; 6-Apr-26; https://tinyurl.com/4m5nvzs4

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Trump endorsing Hilton will only hurt him. Hopefully.

Ann B.'s avatar

Follow the money. The timing is too convenient.

Old Uncle Dave's avatar

It's not just you. The timing plus four on the same day is suspicious.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Very very suspicious!! Glad I'm not alone in thinking this.

Diane in Ohio's avatar

The timing does seem suspect, and frankly I'm surprised at these accusations. That said, I do think we need to let things play out before taking sides. I'm remembering the woman they tried to trot out to discredit Joe Biden. Unfortunately, the damage may already be done...there are already prominent Democrats calling on him to drop out of the race. The CA primary is June 2 so not much time to clear things up.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Unfortunately these allegations are damaging and he will never recover. Sickening, Trump was actually convicted of sexual assault but it didn't hurt his political career! The double standards!

Dee Cee's avatar

I agree with everything you've said. I'd like to know the exact timing of the 4 women who came out on the same day. Did they wait until it was too late for Swalwell to drop out of the race? Have the ballots already been printed? (I'm assuming they have, but would like confirmation on that).

The latter question is also important with regard to the Democrats with low polling numbers. I wish they would have done what's best for the greater good and dropped out.

Kelvin Hobbs's avatar

Dee Cee, it would seem yes as to ballots already printed:

• Certified List of Candidates for the June 2, 2026, Primary Election will be posted March 26, 2026

• Voter Information Guide: Online Version Available April 3, 2026

• Last day for county elections officials to transmit ballots and balloting materials to absent military and overseas voters who have requested them by this date April 18, 2026

Primary Election – June 2, 2026 Key Dates and Deadlines CA Secretary of State https://tinyurl.com/5bpsaj3h

Dee Cee's avatar

Thank you! I knew I could rely on you to confirm this.

Kelvin Hobbs's avatar

Thank you. When I grow up, I hope to star in a remake of Asimov's "I, Robot" 😉

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

I just read a comment above from Deborah where it is out one of the woman stated the incident happened in April 2024! So, 2 years ago! Sorry, this is even more suspicious!

SFGal's avatar

Thank you, Joanne, as you express my misgivings about this terrible situation.

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

It is terrible, disappointing and concerning. You're welcome, my friend.

James Young's avatar

The timing IS unusual, however we will see how this plays out. All of his endorsements are jumping ship. Unfortunately Californias Rank Choice Voting will most likely elect a reTrumplican to the Govs house. I don't see any of the Democratic choices coming to the forefront. I hope I am wrong.....

Joanne Gatsis's avatar

Yes! His staffers are jumping ship as well. These Dems better step up, would hate to have a win for Trump/MAGA.

Ann Marie's avatar

OPPOSITIONAL RESEARCH

Stacie S.'s avatar

Did you think you would see a day when Iran tells us we aren’t to be trusted and we have no diplomacy? What an absolute joke our presidency is.

Nancy Parker's avatar

And that they would be RIGHT, that's the kicker. And all the world knows it.

Vicki Owen's avatar

That’s what happens when you send the village idiot to “negotiate “ (Vance) 🙄

Deborah Hunter's avatar

None of them have any business over there, especially Kushner. You look at the credentials of the team Iran sent. And then you look at the credentials of who we sent. Dumb, dumber and even dumber than the first 2 dumbs. It's so embarrassing to say you're American right now. The worst clown show I've ever seen. Government wise or private industry wise. I'm a boomer and I won't be around if and when the US ever regains its standing with the world. I'm glad my WWII parents aren't around to see this.

Julie's avatar

We call Vance…’just dumb’ vance! 🤣

Deborah Hunter's avatar

Vance is not dumb like Eric is dumb. He's utterly inappropriate and thinks he's funny/cute. He is unable to read the room. Eric is just plain DUH.

Katrina Nuciforo's avatar

Not to mention Jared, the only time he shows up is to FILL HIS pockets with billions I call aHIM JARED THE mannequin boy. He’s definitely his father’s son.

Abandoned Afghan Ally's avatar

it is scary to see this chaos. the current u.s. government is busy with social media fights while the world is on fire. for two decades, we were the shield for american troops in the mountains, but now we are just a forgotten memory. a nation that runs on confusion and neglects its heroes will never have the credibility to bring peace. we are still waiting for justice. As well I hope peace coming to all of country.

Jean Conley's avatar

All thanks to the Dictator Dimwit Criminal Psycho in the Oval Office and his republiCRAP cronies.

Angie's avatar

Trump and Netanyahu need to be publicly tried and publicly punished for what they've done.

Kay's avatar

How is it we allowed Netanyahu to convince us we need to be in this debacle? And how is it we’re not showing him the door?

djw's avatar

Trump is a narcissistic idiot. 'Nuff said?

Will Wilson's avatar

Follow the money. It's that simple.

WJB Motown's avatar

This is linked to Christian Nationalism..........The Greater Isreal project........Huckabee is a Christian Nationalist and supports these "rapture prepare" lunitics.........Grifter Paula White praying for Trump who they believe was sent to earth by God........Trump is the Trojan Horse

Dee Cee's avatar

Christian Nationalism with a large side order of AIPAC $$$.

SFGal's avatar

I thought at first I saw "gentile" in front of Paula's name . . . same-same I guess, WJB.

WJB Motown's avatar

Paula White is a fake Christian prosperity gospel Grifter that somhow finds the Lords blessings to pay the rent in Trump Tower.

SFGal's avatar

Not to be snide, Kay, knowing what you mean about the collective "we," but reminds me of the colloquialism of: What's this 'we' shit? Do you have a turd in your pocket? With DT it is pretty much like that and then in the imaginary plural company easier to blame someone else. Just sayin'.

Marilyn's avatar

Who is we?

Trump only does what he wants. He wanted to attack Iran. He didn't need Bibi say anything to him. Let the Israelis blame Bibi. I blame the WH moron. If someone told you to jump off a cliff, would you. If you did, that's on you.

Sue's avatar

Appreciate your reporting on all these serious issues… sometimes all I can say or think is 😳 YIKES!

Alan Mikuni's avatar

It appears as though JD is participating in a hillbilly eulogy for the Islamabad Iran negotiations.

SFGal's avatar

Hey, Alan, clever "play" on words, embodying likely more truth than humor.

Carolynn Foged's avatar

Don't misunderstand. The governing body of Iran sees black and white which isn't great. But honestly why the hell would Iran ever agree to joint control of Hormuz? So Diaper Donnie can steal from them too? Hubris, greed, insults, threats, lies, dishonesty. I'm surprised Iran's PhDs even agreed to meet with the US clowns.

Linda Wallers's avatar

Regarding Swalwell, where were these accusers when he ran for federal office? We already know Trump’s FBI has tried to regurgitate the Chinese spy story, from which the previous FBI had cleared him. Yes, maybe it should be looked into, by the timing is suspect, as are the allegations. I do believe in listening to the women. BUT, in this case and at this time, they are just NOW coming forward? Even many of Trump’s accusers came forward when he first ran. Why wait until now? Swalwell isn’t as “powerful” as Trump and hasn’t appeared to be intimidating anyone, as Trump does when someone spills. Coming so soon after the failure of Patel’s attempt to reopen the Chinese spy story, it just sounds too convenient.

Nancy (South NJ coast)'s avatar

A couple of possibilities (I believe in trusting women): (1) they have wanted to tell their story and receive justice, and have come forward now because they have been promised protection and a hearing. (2) they received a deal they couldn't refuse--too much cash to turn down, problems made to disappear, or blackmail. (Plus or minus point #1).

Yes, suspicious timing: immediately after Melania's bogus plea on behalf of the Epstein victims. Look for the House Republicans to tee up public hearings on Swalwell as soon as they're back in town.

SFGal's avatar

Not to be facetious, Nancy, but post haste hearings for Melania or Swalwell? I know it's not a joking matter. In any event, buckle our collective seat belts.

Nancy (South NJ coast)'s avatar

Another great question, SFGal, and a great point! I thought from the first moment (after recovering from shock) that Melania's assigned mission was deflection from a number of issues, threatening to both herself and hubby. It's plausible that there's been conspiring in trump world for a while to spring this surprise attack just before the primary.

SFGal's avatar

Indeed, Linda, we must remain suspect of the political environment elements you note. All things considered, we can put nothing past this wicked DT regime.

Linda Wallers's avatar

And it is painful to have to be in this position. I never had reason to NOT trust American government. But, this administration has strapped all of us into a faulty zip line harness and pushed us off a cliff. We are screaming and holding on for dear life, hoping to make it to November 3 before the entire thing gives way.

SFGal's avatar

Pretty much which I just got off the keyboard writing to a retired trucker friend of mine in Detroit, Linda, asking him for a few kernels of hope characteristic of his Nebraska farm upbringing. Hanging on for dear life as your analogy of the faulty zip line harness reminds me of great Kauai zipline adventures past when I never gave disaster a thought in Paradise. As Joyce Vance says, we're in this together (for better or worse).

Linda Wallers's avatar

Amen, we sink or swim together. Thanks for being there.

Casey Bemis's avatar

Trump should tell Netanyahu he's pulling out of this war because the U.S. doesn't want to be involved in a war with Lebanon. Then we leave and let Israel fight its own war. Trump saves face, and we stop being involved in foreign wars like he promised.

Deborah Hunter's avatar

He will never, ever do that because Israel has the goods on Trump that he never wants the rest of the world to see. He will literally destroy this country to protect his fat ass.

Casey Bemis's avatar

Of course. But maybe Trump could put on his big boy pants and stand up for America, then resign and go off in the sunset on his white horse, yelling "Hi, Ho!"

Deborah Hunter's avatar

Have you talked to someone about those hallucinations? LOL.

Marilyn's avatar

What goods are those? Are they the same ones Putin has?

Deborah Hunter's avatar

Just my opinion yes. Financial crimes (Russian mafia, money laundering since the 70s & 80s) and most important, videos of him with children. I have no inside source, I just think that this is what keeps him in line. Not a pee tape from 2013. Everyone, including his wife, knows he cheats.

WJB Motown's avatar

There is no opposition party in America. Both are bought and paid for by AIPAC and probably other pro-Isreal lobby groups.

The way to save America is to kick out all AIPAC addicted Dems, clean house and become the offical anti-war party.........the current direction will end up in a catastrophic disaster.

Deborah Hunter's avatar

It's always the money. And usually money from people you shouldn't be taking it from. A buddy in the Middle East lets us keep our foot in the door also. A parasitic relationship.

Carthago Delenda Est's avatar

There are far worse and far more influential lobbies than AIPAC. Your sole focus on AIPAC reeks of antisemitism.

Are you?

Top 20 Lobbies by spending (not in order)

Chamber of Commerce

National Association of Realtors

Big Pharma

BCBS

AMA

Amazon.com

Meta

AARP

Lockheed Martin

Comcast

WJB Motown's avatar

Thanks for this list......I will write it down.........

WJB Motown's avatar

Do you support paying for another countries healthcare......a womens right to choose and bombs, bulldozers and jets to destroy Gaza, Lebanon and Iraq??

Meanwhile the USA has cutback and will continue to cutback on services for their own people??? Do not throw the anti-Israel card at me........let them pay for their own shit!!!

Carthago Delenda Est's avatar

You clearly do not understand what AIPAC is. It is a lobby of Americans who lobby the US Congress to provide aid to Israel. No Israelis or foreign influence.

You also don't understand how US aid to Israel works. To save time, I will give you the elevator version.

US sends $$ to Israel.

Israel uses American $$ to buy weapons from US defense contractors to defend itself.

US is spending its own $$ to prop up its defense industry by using a proxy to purchase weapons.

It's not Israel's responsibility that our own govt is underfunding goods and services to our own people because the idiots in DC want to spend $1.5T on the military.

It's also not Israel's responsibility that our own govt is in thrall to Christian Nationalists who wish to install some sort of Dominionalist govt here and rule over anyone who isn't: white, Christian, male.

WJB Motown's avatar

You call bombing Gaza.....IDF raids into villages....blowing up homes....etc their own defense??? Reports have said that Israel knew before hand about the big attack. Satanyahu is a war criminal......all funding should be cut off.

Trump was the sucker that Israel has been wanting for, for decades to help achieve their Greater Isreal Plan goal. Iran has fought back......and gained allies. Trump has made the alienated the entire world......except for Israel.

Satanyahu welcomes Huckabee and all the fake Christian Nationalists with open arms. It is their responsibliity to not follow the nut job "Rapture Prepars" that are using war to blast the area to rubble........hastening the return of Jesus. They are all a sick cult

Israel does not give a shit about how US citizens are treated.........ICE probably has used IDF training manuals to round up and deport anyone that is not white.

USA should cut off all $$$ to Israel. Give back and rebuild programs for Americans

Sigrid Snyder's avatar

That’s what you get when you send 3 Boys to do a man’s job

Nancy (South NJ coast)'s avatar

That's why we should send women.

John Hurlbut's avatar

I have no problem with that. But the Iranians might not negotiate with women because they are about 2000 years behind the times in that respect.

Nancy (South NJ coast)'s avatar

Good point, John. Perhaps if they dressed conservatively and wore a head scarf?

John Hurlbut's avatar

And a big bushy unkempt beard. I wonder if they have a “beard puller” at the front door, to act as a bouncer.

Kelvin Hobbs's avatar

Hungarian Rhapsodies

• US Interference. My Administration stands ready to use the full Economic Might of the United States to strengthen Hungary’s Economy, as we have done for our Great Allies in the past, if Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and the Hungarian People ever need it. We are excited to invest in the future Prosperity that will be generated by Orbán’s continued Leadership! President DONALD J. TRUMP https://tinyurl.com/dwrrh6z3 “Viktor Orbán is going to win the next election in Hungary, so I feel very confident about that and about our continued positive relationship,” [said JD Vance] https://tinyurl.com/2ynu5ze6

• Election Rigging. “The entire world can see that our brand of Christian Democratic, conservative, patriotic politics has won,” [Orbán said]. “Orbán’s Hungary demonstrates how autocrats can rig elections legally, using their parliamentary majorities to modify the law to neutralize whatever strategy the opposition adopts to try to beat them.” https://tinyurl.com/ypnpfahj “Orban has waged two campaigns.” “One was a very direct frontal assault to stop [Magyar from] getting elected. The second one was to plant landmines everywhere to ensure that if he does get elected, he cannot succeed.” https://tinyurl.com/3s3e2av5

• Illiberalism. Hungary as “a petri dish for illiberalism.” … Hungary is going to be a petri dish for illiberalism, and these other proto-authoritarian leaders are going to look to it to model their behavior. [It will be] the testing ground for new forms of engaging with that government to try to meaningfully shape their choices in a way that further strengthens democratic institutions and values. It requires things that are unnatural to traditional diplomacy. https://tinyurl.com/43x7v5td

• The Rabbit Hole. Viktor Orbán is not building a conservative Disneyland in Hungary, but a Russian and Chinese beachhead while personally enriching himself. For him conservative values are an alibi. … [Take] the red pill of Morpheus’s Hungarian Matrix, and [see] how deep the rabbit hole goes.” https://tinyurl.com/3uxsus2b [The movie "The Matrix" explores a world where reality was] replaced by the illusions of capitalism, [a] world … pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. The "free your mind" ethos … has also fed into politics - a byword for the modern age of far-right populism that positions itself as anti-establishment. As a product of the alt-right, whose members are generally outspoken in their attacks on multiculturalism, globalisation and immigration, the red pill becomes "a verb." It opened "the eyes of new recruits to their hated oppressors - feminists, people of colour and progressives. https://tinyurl.com/4njk7evh

Lois W. Halbert's avatar

We sent unqualified people to negotiate. Israel wants to kill, kill, kill.

Dee Cee's avatar

So does Hegdeath.