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Johan's avatar

Thank you for this!

The MAGA base isn’t fracturing because of policy, it’s fracturing because cruelty finally turned inward.

Their spell was built on retribution, not repair, and now his own loyalists see the cost. The collapse isn’t just political, it’s behavioral: once the illusion breaks, the movement eats itself.

The tide is turning…

Susan Stolt's avatar

As written many many times before, the leopards ARE eating faces.

John Cook's avatar

I’m a Brit who has watched the vile brutality unleashed by this sorry excuse for a human being. The sooner he’s gone the better-for not only the American people but the world as a whole.

Linda Mitchell, KCMO's avatar

Oh John, so true. But then we have to contend with the de-nazification of the rest of the maggots.

Geoffrey Fox's avatar

John,

I could not agree with you more. He and his administration should all be jailed. Then bring in auditors, real lawyers, and qualified individuals to sort out this mess.

john augustine's avatar

many, many of his sycophants will go to jail....even steve bannon recently admitted that if maga fails, he and many others will go to jail

Kathy Sowers's avatar

It can't be too soon!

John Cook's avatar

That’s going to be hell of s job!

john augustine's avatar

but it will take a decade or more to repair the damage for US

Cass's avatar

You are so right, John. Exactly what a concerned commentator said before 2020 election; he first said "years" but then sadly said it would take "decades".

Kathy Sowers's avatar

Maybe not. Maybe the young people will see their opportunity to build something that hasn't been done before and will want to work as quickly as possible to reclaim their future for themselves and their children, once they understand what has happened here. They didn't cause it, some of them got duped by it.

Martha Arreguin's avatar

Those are my hopes and prayers. The election of Mamdani showed us that it's not just possible but probable. What young person would choose to live in a world built on hate, greed, revenge and war in the streets and throughout the world. That's the Maga promise. We can do better.

Nina's avatar

I would love to see that! I would totally support the younger generation stepping up! I know there are some smart people who only need an opportunity to do good things for their country.

K R Cancelliere's avatar

Every journey begins with a single step

JC's avatar

Agree. It will take decades for the fascists in the SCOTUS to die.

Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

Then we'll just have to extricate them. SCJ's can be impeached too you know.

Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

Many decades. The damage is that deep and that severe.

Jacquelyn Gordon's avatar

Wondered how the U.S. is viewed today around the world. Your comment was exactly what I was sadly expecting!!

zoinks's avatar

But this time, they are eating their OWN faces.

It’s been less than a year, but it is still too damn long.

Bring it on.

Chris Hayden's avatar

Well, Pete Hegseth having spent much of his life ‘shytfaced’, DOES fit that particular word. As does Iowa’s current Governor.

WJB Motown's avatar

Maggots have "shit for brains" already

Linda Mitchell, KCMO's avatar

Johan, I have to say that I have never seen adults truly, genuinely change their minds, only their behaviors, without strenuous re-programming. They are unhappy about their own people being attacked: if this were directed at their "enemies" they would be delighted. But I would be content with the MAGA-ts slinking back under their rocks for the next couple of decades. I would like to point out, though, that the most dangerous animal on the planet is a rabid one that has been cornered. I do not expect any of these disgusting despicable creatures to go gently into that good night. And there will be no flights of angels singing them to their rest.

Toni's avatar

Completely agree. It is not Rump, so much as the people all over the US who created, supported and enabled him, that have made me decide to flee this country. Because they will still be here, lurking in the shadows, long after this regime is gone. It's a moral virus that lives in thousands of Americans, and will only be dormant, not eradicated. Just like measles.

Linda Mitchell, KCMO's avatar

I have lived elsewhere and I have to say that these folks are everywhere (like cockroaches) but in many places they are suppressed. And I would describe them as a cancer: the term "remission" means that the cancer is still there and just waiting for an opportunity to metastasize. I know this personally.

Madeleine A's avatar

Agree Linda. And for this I blame both political parties. They turned their backs on many Americans and that left a void for this nuttiness to rise to the surface.

Toni's avatar

True. Good analogy. Viruses are similar. Never truly gone, just lying dormant...

Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

It's TrumPox, a virulent disease that can eat your brain.

Elaine Lueras's avatar

And we can't forget the powerful dark forces behind Donnie Diddler that are pulling his strings: Heritage Foundation and the Project 2025ers. They are still here and will adapt and keep going unless they are rooted out like ticks.

Susan Raquel's avatar

We also need to consider the Christian Nationalists and the Opus Dei crowd. Look into Opus Dei and you will find it is intermingled with Heritage and 2025. Check out Roberts:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/26/kevin-roberts-project-2025-opus-dei

WJB Motown's avatar

BINGO!! PeterTeil was a big friend with Opus Dei Father Arne......worked together to kill Roe/Wade.....afermative action..........then Lenord Leo...helped stack the Supreme Court with Scalie/Roberts/Thomas.

Totally Satanic top down!!!!!

Susan Raquel's avatar

Gareth Gore has published a book called OPUS. If you search interview with Gareth Gore he has many you tube and substack interviews. I recently got his book and will finish the one I am almost done with and start reading his book.

Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

We definitely need to take the HF down, and hard.

Pat Robinson's avatar

Very true, but by getting them back under the rock truly decent folks will be able to thrive and help one another, so it's critical to get them back under the rocks! I don't like to stereotype, but I think it is especially true in southern red states...the folks there have had generations of hate...supporting slavery and the KKK to extents not seen in northern or western states, and it has to be very much a generational thing...kids learn from their parents, and they learn hate quite easily when that is all they see at home. Their schools teach hate, somehow their Sunday Schools teach hate (I still don't get how they talk about Jesus and all he said to do and still convey that hate and cruelty are the way to be). So yes, I believe they will always be with us. But maybe as they move away and have kids who (heaven forbid) fall in love with persons of color, and those kids raise their own kids differently things will change. And as jobs become fewer and fewer and kids have to move out of the red states, while many will take their hate with them, some will change and pass their new values on to their own children. Sadly for me, this can/will take years and I will not live to see it.

Stephanie's avatar

It has been that way from the beginning…. When you dehumanize people captured and enslaved to serve your purpose, those attitudes remain even after slavery ended.

The reconciliation commission should have taken place right after Civil War ended. The leaders should have been hung as traitors and the Union should have remained ensconced until the Southern peoples were re-educated in reality instead of allowing them to write their own false history which also allowed them to add grievances to their false sense of superiority.

After trump and MAGA fall, we must have such a truth and reconciliation now in order to move forward…. Use Mandela example in SAF.

And we need swift punishment of all those involved in the fascist plot, no matter where they reside, STARTING with the leaders.

We them need to de-Nazify all levels if govt and courts to ensure this can never happen again.

john augustine's avatar

trump did not cause this....he is what is vomited up from the 4/5 decades of neoliberal politics from both parties screwing the working class

WJB Motown's avatar

Joyce Vance brilliantly points out in her latest book, "Manual for keeping Democracy, how founder Madison warned about "factions" developing within a democracy. Trumpism is the latest........

How people react to this faction will decide if democracy survives or an Orange King will rule the land.

Pat Robinson's avatar

The most unreliable thing in the world, "polls" seemed to say after the election that a lot of folks voted for trump because they believed he would "fix" the economy, bring priced down and get them affordable health care and create more jobs. If this is true those folks are not part of the real base of maga and they may be changing their minds for real...seeing reality and thinking "well this didn't work out, I need to try something else". And despite what trump says, the election wasn't that much of a landslide, and it may only take these lukewarm voters to switch side or not vote at all to make a difference in 2016. And I think that maybe, just maybe a mama bear protecting her young is more dangerous than the rabid cornered animal and we all need to be that mama bear.

Susan Raquel's avatar

Your post reminded me of one poster on Next Door who always defends anything that trump says or does. One day there were numerous counters to her remarks along the lines of do you really endorse him doing this, that etc.?

She said that she approved of 60% of what he does and that was enough for her. She hasn't said much since the close-down and SNAP issues. I wonder if that 60% may be changing?

Pat Robinson's avatar

So did she ever post what the 60% things were?

Susan Raquel's avatar

I don't think so. Next Door is kind of strange sometimes. It will just close, so to speak, so no more posts on the author's original post can be made. I came across the post after it was closed. I don't even think anyone asked her what the 60% was.

Kathy Sowers's avatar

What happens if / when they actually SEE the truth, realize they've been conned for years and outrage overtakes them? I wonder what puppet they'll try to stand up in trump's absence. JD? He's not up for the task, he doesn't really know what it is because he's a lapdog. Meanwhile, we keep up our fight and keep on going forward!

Gonzo Gato's avatar

Once you finally see thru the Narcissist, you can't unsee it. May his flying monkies finally see thru the illusion that is soulless Trump.

Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

I believe that is what will happen. Back under the rocks, and the cracks in the woodwork.

Pat Robinson's avatar

I hope you are correct.

Leslie Goodman-Malamuth's avatar

No better headline for Sunday coffee than MAGA IS COLLAPSING. I lift a Diet Coke in tribute to my fellow passengers on the Freedom Train and Engineer Ben. Choo-choo! Choo-choo ch’boogie!

Scotty's avatar

To True Americans sacrificing in so many ways and continuing on through personal hardship to keep America free. We all agree on one thing and that keeps us together.

Freedom from oppression in all forms.

Leslie Goodman-Malamuth's avatar

G-d bless 🇺🇸, land that we love. He broke it, we’ll fix it.

Sylvia Arrowood's avatar

I did all of this to honor my veteran husband and my children and grandchildren. He broke it and we will stand strong.

Leslie Goodman-Malamuth's avatar

Thank you for your husband’s service, for all you do. Grandchildren will revere those who stand and stood strong.

Geoffrey Fox's avatar

Stay strong. We will get out country back and in time maybe even former allies

kevin oldham's avatar

Well, TRUMP IS FINALLY DEAD would be a better headline...

Leslie Goodman-Malamuth's avatar

Baby steps, Kevin, baby steps. Lao-Tze says a journey of a thousand miles begins with a step.

Pmurtkcuf's avatar

I’d rather see him pay for his crimes than get out so easily than to drop dead.

Tina's avatar

Not me, Trump has the White House, Senate, Congress, and let's not forget The Supreme Court who gave him a free pass to do whatever the Hell he wants, so he will never be held accountable. Dropping dead is the best thing for our Country.

Robin D's avatar

First he can suffer physically, mentally, and live in fear ...then he can drop dead.

Leslie Goodman-Malamuth's avatar

Hey, Robin D! Flat, food-service cola and an all-Great Value feast should comprise his last meal. Despite the alleged Very Epstein Thanksgiving of 2017, they were scared to death of each other. As MAGA merch barbecues, they’ll be the death of each other. This is our new hope, not hoax.

Cappy Fann's avatar

Plus the Earth opened up and, with flames shooting out, swallowed him.

Robin D's avatar

I like your mind 🤗

Irena Halder's avatar

@Leslie Goodman-Malamuth the Freedom Train with engineer Ben is an image to make us all happy and I’m aboard with you already. Choo choo indeed!

Leslie Goodman-Malamuth's avatar

Choo-choo! Choo-choo ch’boogie! Take me right down to the shack, Jack!

Scotty's avatar

Defiance.org I suggest: pick a plan

James Wilson's avatar

We all knew this was coming and it’s finally happening. I might be having coffee at the moment, but I’ll be drinking a Coke with my popcorn the rest of day. Some people are starting to the see he for what he truly is. But I will not forget what they voted for and the cruelty that was okay with them.

Dorothy Lewis's avatar

Never forget ! Always remember that bleak day in American history. JANUARY 6, 2021

Diane Ilson's avatar

Obviously many forgot on Nov 24 in casting their vote for our unrespected leader (just can’t get myself to call him president).

Spyder's avatar

He’s a cornered rat bastard. Every republican in Congress needs to take note of Marjorie’s decision to Release The Epstein Files…😉

Jackie Robare Fiese's avatar

Good morning… the evil always exposes itself at some point. For me I saw what this evil sick creature years ago. MTG turned from him because she saw the sexual predator in him and what that big bullshit bill is because it affected her family. But beware - MTG is still not right.

Pat Robinson's avatar

I hope you are right sort of about MTG...I don't think she is doing any of what she is doing because it impacts her family. Yahoo finance says MTG is now worth 25 million (up from $700,00 when she entered office) so even with the $700,000 she had when elected she has plenty to pay for health insurance for her kids and grand kids is she has any. I think she is just a bit smarter that most folks give her credit for and she saw that in her district there are enough voters to support her without trump's endorsement, and she now has plenty of ammunition to campaign against any republican he chooses to run against her, and with her open stance against his hiding the epstein files and no health care plans she can get enough other voted to be sure to be reelected. Plus she's getting tons of media exposure which she thrives on. You are for sure she is n ot right.

Susan Raquel's avatar

I have had this crazy thought about MTG. It is a What If?

What if all along she was a person with a moral compass; however, knew she couldn't get anywhere with it unless she totally endorsed trump. What if she deliberately made stupid remarks like lasers started fires, endorsed Q'anon nonsense for the attention that it brought to her. and indeed she did get a lot of attention, her name stands out and I think most people recognize it.

Having done that she can now speak out and have attention focused on what she says and sway some of the people who adore trump.

I know, that is far fetched. Just a What If?

Pat Robinson's avatar

I love your what if!!! I sometimes have thought along the same lines regarding the 8 senators who caved to trump...without saying it out loud maybe they really did it not to put the ACA sort of back on the table for public debate and to show yet again the GOP has no plan for health care but rather just to get the Epstein files on the table so everyone has to for either for or against pedophiles.

Susan Raquel's avatar

I have also played around with that thought. I think that I saw it mentioned even before I saw Ben's analysis to the contrary.

I have to admit I was totally pi$$ed when I first heard of it. I saw it as "bending the knee", a sell out, you name it.

It did though, get things moving again re Epstein, so there is that.

Pat Robinson's avatar

And to be honest, I don't know what a member of Congress is supposed to do...if more of your constituents are on SNAP benefits and/or are federal employees that get ACA subsidies, it made sense to vote to release SNAP benefits and get the workers back to work. But I am fairly sure that both the actions...freezing SNAP benefits and sending workers home without pay and/or firing them is illegal, but as we saw, it was taking weeks to get the SNAP issue through the courts, and it seemed as long as trump ignores the court orders there was nothing anyone could do.

Susan Raquel's avatar

A totally frustrating situation for anyone with a conscience.

If the Repubs were smart, every last one of them would vote to have the files released.

I don't think Bondi would be able to find and file charges against all of them.

That would surely put trump into cardiac arrest.

SUZANNE's avatar

Be careful what you wish for…the ignorant base will take a substitute who is articulate and just as devious, lying and cruel.

Terry's avatar

As much as I want Trump out, I don't want Vance in. He's a smooth talker and could pull maga back in, that scares me.

Sue Stjohn's avatar

Vance is a Heritage member and is being mentored by Thiel. The Heritage Foundation will continue to run the country behind the curtain. They will make sure Project 2025 is completed. It's 48% complete now. They use Trump to create chaos while THF is enacting their policies.

Patricia Polcyn's avatar

Thiel is in the Epstein files so hopefully he will crash and burn

Sue Stjohn's avatar

They all need to crash and burn!

Angela Shipman's avatar

one battle at a time...

Terri P Williams's avatar

me too - but let's not go there. stay in the moment.

Tina's avatar

Vance is a liar just like his boss. He was interview during the campaign saying "of course Trump wouldn't pardon the most violent J6ers he will go case by case". Vance lied. Vance was also part of the rumors "there eating the dogs and cats" in Ohio causing Schools, and daycares to close due to bomb threats from their lies. I hope like hell he doesn't become the next President. They all act worst than 10 year olds and should not have the power they have.

Kate Kreimer's avatar

Or Fuentes. He is scum.

Bad Bunny's avatar

Yeah, he's a smooth talker alright. That's how he's seduced so many couches. "Your antimacassars look just like meemaw's..."

Robin D's avatar

😂 😂😂 Jeff Tiedrich yesterday call him the "furniture fornicator". I stick to my tried and true Hillbilly couchfucker, but so many options lol!

zoinks's avatar

But they won’t have same pull and charisma that kept the rubes in tow. There’s nobody else in that same orbit that can replicate what was created. The rest of America had better take a lesson from this. It could have been easily avoided just by showing up last November at the polls. As much as we can blame you-know-who, the electorate carries much of the responsibility to allow this mess. But now it’s time to clean up.

Paul Bourdon's avatar

It ain't over by a long shot! The "party" has no interest in giving up power now they've got it!

Judy Robinson's avatar

I believe it was in Heather Cox Richardson’s Letters from an American, if not a different recent substack, where I read of the person with Russian ties who once worked for T. is considering running for president in order to hold the base together. I cannot think of his name now. The audio version of HCR’s letter was dated November 14, I believe.

Certainly there will be other people trying to carry on, and I hope that the people who did not see through the current president initially or who have not yet even, will be astute and attentive so more abuse to this country and to people from anywhere or in any country will not continue. We must be ever watchful and ever mindful.

P. S.

Thanks to MaryB of Pasadena for reminding me that it is Larry Flynn who is contemplating running for president to pick up where Trump leaves off in holding the base together.

DamnFineHaggis's avatar

No one else has his particular evil charisma. That's what created MAGA - not the platform, but the man. MAGA is going to fracture into all the divisions that kept it in check before Rump.

What we have to watch for are the sneaky actions that the bought and paid for Congress will slide into seemingly beneficial legislation. Get rid of Citizens United and that threat becomes less likely as well.

Judy Robinson's avatar

What surprises me is that anybody ever saw or still sees charisma when the personality has always seemed nothing more than repulsion with an attitude of hatred and detriment toward other people. None of those characteristics fit into Christianity, and I doubt that they fit into any other religious beliefs. If nobody else has such a personality, then bravo!

Yes, we definitely must get rid of Citizens United!

While I realize that we must restore, preserve, and protect our government itself as quickly and fully as possible, including privacy, if that is ever possible, there are other concerns of great magnitude.

Among those concerns are these:

How can we stop the forward of disease and the lies about vaccines? How can we help the people who still suffering from his cruelty, have been beaten, deported wrongfully, separated from families, fired from their meaningful and needed jobs, are being starved or deprived of healthcare, have had their important papers stolen from them, have had their family members traumatized, are losing their homes or farms of not both, and/or have received still wrongs? How can we protect our national parks and more and restore life and nature to the conditions before the attacks and deprivations, or make those lands better still? How can we make sure that only truth is being taught in our schools and that his followers are not infiltrating every aspect of life and possibly buying up properties? How can we restore our White House? What can we do about saving The Kennedy Center? Can we restore the sending of good snd medicine to countries where they are needed? How can we ever restore our place in the worldwide setting with a positive image and regain our friendships with countries who have stood by us through many years in the past? How can we reopen the world of trade which helps people around the world mutually depend on each other to meet our needs for better lives and lasting friendships? How can we ever restore respect and caring where divisions have come about in this turmoil? Can we avoid such turmoil in the future? I hope we can overcome the travesties and rebuild lives and relationships in my lifetime. We need honesty, wisdom, caring, hope, faith, and each other.

Susan Raquel's avatar

We will need people who can co-ordinate. One issue impacts another issue and so on. Someone who sees the big picture and is surrounded by people who will speak up.

I imagine them making a giant poster with all of the issues you mention and the red strings connecting them and deciding which issue to deal with first and going from there.

It certainly won't be easy and who knows how long it will take and what changes will have to be made.

Judy Robinson's avatar

Susan Raquel, thank you for your valuable message here. I’m sure it will be a huge challenge, and I appreciate your expression of our needs and your envision made of an approach to meeting the many goals.

Judy Robinson's avatar

Yes, MaryB of Pasadena, thank you!!!! It was Larry Flynn. The name had escaped me when I was writing.

Mike Hammer's avatar

Marjorie Taylor Greene might now be a female Groyper. Did anyone else read that she’s going to join America First with Nick Fuentes? Maybe I’m losing my mind.

Deborah Newman's avatar

And Putin. She’s not to be trusted as far as I’m concerned.

Concerned Citizen's avatar

I totally agree with you with regards to MG. I’m trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. It’s wrong. People are threatening her life. But I feel like it’s Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown, and pulling it out at the last minute so he falls flat on his back. I think I’ve become cynical but look at all we’ve had to deal with. I hope maga is cracking.

Steve's avatar

Someone, throw water on Margie; I'm melting..Ah! I'm melting.

Deborah Newman's avatar

Excerpts from a Vanity Fair article:

To be clear, no one should take Greene’s comments and surprising new policy positions to mean that she’s undergone a personality transplant and isn’t still the person who once suggested California wildfires were started by a Jewish space laser. In the same Daily Mail conversation, she talked about a desire to keep using Elon Musk’s DOGE to take a sledgehammer to the federal government, and she introduced a bill predicated on conspiracy theories about the weather. She continued to demonize immigrants, including those coming to the country legally, she defended Putin, and voted to defund NPR and PBS.

Her sudden willingness to break with Trump on issues close to the president’s heart is curious. Has she read the writing on the wall regarding Republicans’ chances in the midterm elections and said “screw it?”

Steve's avatar

That was a good reminder of her true personality, which is just the tip of the iceberg. I'd like to see someone to confront her with her real personality.

WJB Motown's avatar

Jennifer Welch on IHIPNEWS brilliantly calls out MTG as looking at the long game here. MTG knows Canlkes health is failing and time is running out on him. Yea.....never trust her.

Nancy Richardson's avatar

The explosion of this vile regime is almost complete. WE THE PEOPLE are taking our country back. The Epstein emails have been the catalyst for this regime and finally MAGA is seeing the real person.

Ben, you and your brothers are leading the fight for democracy through speaking truth to power daily. You have not deviated on this and it speaks volumes of your honesty and integrity. The Medias Mighty thanks you and the world thanks for your keeping the truth front and center. We are united, strong and we fight together for our country!

Laura B Slitt's avatar

Our country? Ask any native peoples banished by violence and force, to government manufactured reservations, who's country it is.

Mary Z's avatar

Make America Great Again, he never said for who. The magat’s all thought it meant them. He let them believe that to get their vote. What he really meant by MAGA was MAGA for billionaires and let THEM eat cake. It worked twice, boy are they dumb.

Paul Bourdon's avatar

Stephen Miller must have rolled over in his coffin when he said that about the H1Bs!

Cathy's avatar

That particular point gives me joy.

Jan McCue's avatar

Ben and MTN, there are no amount of words I can put forth that reflect the respect and gratitude I have for your relentless pursuit of TRUTH JUSTICE and the AMERICAN WAY !

You are our newest SUPERMAN!

Faster than the Leavett propaganda train

More powerful than a weak a demoralized Congress

Able to leap over the mountain of corruption and lies every single day.

Look! Up in the internet sky

It’s not a BBB!

It’s not a grifted Qatar plane !

It’s Ben and the Meidas Mighty !!!!

You need a cape! 🦸‍♂️

Shari Fultz's avatar

Thank you for your dedication and loyalty to truth!

Ravenhill's avatar

MAGA is collapsing, so take action do what you can, boycott businesses who supported the MAGA movement, distance yourself and stop supporting those who supported it, most importantly, VOTE for democrat candidates and don’t split your ticket.

Encourage your like-minded friends to download Substack and subscribe to Midas+.

michael cannon's avatar

GOOD MORNING MEIDAS FOLKS🌞

Suzanne Karbowska-Hayes's avatar

At last the MAGA masses are beginning to see that the Emperor has no clothes that the biggest con artist of all time is beginning to unravel at a pace and may be in the stocks metaphorically and bombarded with rotten tomatoes by Christmas. He will be haunted by the ghost of the murdered Epstein forever. America will have a chance to redeem itself from this most disgraceful period of its history once this vile vicious felon is ousted and put on the scrap heap where he belongs. Amen

Sylvia Arrowood's avatar

When you build your base on lies, evil and corruption it falls apart sooner or later. The truth keeps marching forward. The millions of Americans who have fought for democracy, honesty and truth will keep marching forward and staying strong. The Epstein files are what has caused the dam to finally crack. Keep marching forward MeidasTouch and all independent journalists. Those that bowed to Trump will be remembered and the ones who fought for the truth will be remembered. Who would have thought the cavalry would be our independent journalists - our honest, democratic fighting journalists?

Celia Ludi's avatar

It's always the journalists first - that's how the rest of us know what's going on. Just ask Netanyahu, who has killed more than 200 in Gaza. But all of us can be journalists in a smaller way: keep our eyes open, and questions and more questions, stay connected to each other.