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Anne Gayler's avatar

Virginia Giuffre "committed suicide"? Like the whistleblower from Boeing who died in his truck or Epstein with the missing minutes from his cellblock video....I have become cynical.

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Janice Childress's avatar

Ivana calling down stairs, she wrote in her book about her husband raping her when he was upset. She also told US about Mein Kaupf (sp?) at the bedroom nightstand. Her father was a Czech spy, so who got on USSR radar in 1977? Reportedly, Khrasnov, Moscow trip 1987, Casinos (laundering) and now $1.1 Billion in 4,700+ flagged as 'suspicious' transactions from/by Epstein. Deep State is an understatement given all the players in this web.

Epstein's NY next door neighbor is in the Cabinet, so we are all affected. Bove, just confirmed by Senate, like Barr knows A LOT.

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Janice Childress's avatar

Apologies,.meant to say 'falling' instead of 'calling'. She never got an autopsy made public and was quickly cremated. Never heard of an investigation, but rumor has it she liked to drink in Europe???

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Bonnie Lane's avatar

Janice wasn’t Ivana, after falling down the stairs before her untimely death, buried on trumps golf course? I do not delve in conspiracies but the Putin puppet has so much to answer to - under oath.

This bizarre traitor in chief has so many cover ups it’s difficult to follow. And I always wonder : why were there never any medical records of treatment documentation of his alleged ear injury following the so-called attempt on his life right before the Republican convention?

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PeachBlossom's avatar

Do you actually think being under oath would inhibit Trump from lying?

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Bonnie Lane's avatar

Of course not Peach but he has committed so many crimes and abused so many rules and people he should be held to account.

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ramona j's avatar

I dont like to guess. Either. But IMO, not only do I think this is all possible. I think in that grave is alot of documents, evidence , and God knows what. 🤔 but that's just me.... call me crazy. I'm used to it. Especially on what is possible .

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independently3happy's avatar

It's not just you... I've believed the same thing since felon buried her there.

Her autopsy report states cause of death 'bruise'.

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Jax's avatar

I’m sorry but I had to laugh at your post, “under oath”! What makes you think for one nanosecond-second he’d tell the truth then? Never has implored him to be honest before!

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Bonnie Lane's avatar

Dear Jax- of course he lies. Whenever he moves his fat pie hole. The Wall Street journal case about his love letter to Epstein is civil so depositions under oath would be required- meaning a documented record of responses under penalty of perjury. No I’m sure nothing he says is truthful - and he is an idiot so a terrible liar.

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Leah Baum's avatar

This is what I believe happened. 47 sent Eric to his mother apartment to kill bcuz she was due in court the following day to testify against trump organization. Ivana never took the stairs always her elevator. 47 is known to order murders that way he doesn’t get his hands dirty. Roy Cohn taught him that. Makes me wonder if her 3 kids didn’t like her since her grave is covered in weeds. I also doubt she wanted to be buried at her ex-husband resort.

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Jax's avatar

I think her children should be ashamed of themselves having their mother’s grave in the state it is.

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Leah Baum's avatar

Like their father they have no shame. I doubt she wanted to be buried on her ex-husband’s property. The kids can afford to move her to a nicer place. That’s why I question their relationship with her.

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Anne Gayler's avatar

Ivana was buried on Trump's golf course so that Trump could take a tax deduction for the site as a "cemetery".

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Ninja Radio 🇨🇦's avatar

:-) we all read it as "falling". no worries.

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Kimberlyanne's avatar

I thought Virginia's family voiced they didn't believe it was suicide?

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Leah Baum's avatar

Virginia wrote a letter some time before her death that she would never commit suicide.

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Janice Childress's avatar

Difficult case because of her pharma and drug use. Hope it was investigated. Wonder what the autopsy discovered? Congressional Special Council or Committee (like Jan6) with FBI findings and files would be appropriate and just.

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bettievanoverbeke's avatar

Husband was abusive , stole her kids and pushed her in front of a bus 2 weeks before her " suicide"

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JC's avatar

I feel so sad for that woman. So who got her millions? I hope it's not her husband.

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Connie Larsen's avatar

Understandable! trump is so stupid. Why is lil Nazi miller letting him talk?

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Lenni Nyberg's avatar

Because lil’ Nazi miller has an even lower opinion of the MAGA-morons than djt does. But I do believe many of those same cult members are beginning to see through the polluted waters of the GOP and even they are insulted.

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Joanne Steacie's avatar

Let's hope!

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Julie Smalley's avatar

I find it interesting that she commits suicide in April of 25! Hadn’t she just had a baby? And the DOJ had been going through files to flag trumps name. I just think this needs to be looked at more !

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Whats Going On Brandi Dawn's avatar

Or the Frenchman who was charged by the French police based on the information they got from the Americans after Winston was convicted the second time? Jean Luc Brunel - modeling agent, connected with Elite and beauty pageants and Eastern Europe…who French police said was believed to have trafficked 1000 women and girls to Epstein- information they got, from the Epstein files.

But there’s no list.

No names.

According to trumps paid liars who he hired because they are good liars.

Oh sorry… LAWYERS. Right he hired them because they are good LAWYERS

Or Gerald Marie, formerly of Elite Models (the sponsor of the look of the year competition which Trump and Epstein judged) … Marie was let off due to a statute of limitations technicality.

Jean Luc Brunel was awaiting trial

When he suddenly killed himself.

In his jail cell. Mysteriously.

One of Epstein's main accusers, Virginia Giuffre, who has alleged she had been forced into sex with Brunel, said his death had ended "another chapter". BBC online Feb 19, 2022.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60443518.amp

Also:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/french-prosecutors-close-investigation-into-model-agency-boss-gerald-marie

Yeah no wonder no one wants to tell the truth. What makes me wonder is: who are these people who are hiding? they are willing to kill people, and able to.

They are able to manipulate and arm twist American politicians and Trump … they were willing to throw Prince Andrew under the bus, because they hoped those names would be enough. If he is a give away, who is the big fish?

Yikes.

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Lucy's avatar

Trump is the biggest fish of all

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Anne Gayler's avatar

I tend to think it's a bunch of little fish....like all those Republicans in the House and Senate. If they were all exposed then MAGA would have to face the fact that they themselves are the "swamp" to be drained in Washington.

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Beth L's avatar

Pedophiles in leadership roles! What is going on?

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Hilary M's avatar

Same as it ever was

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Deb's avatar

To further add to the cynicism, see the substack link pasted below. It’s from Dean Blundell and if the narrative doesn’t raise questions…. well, it’s certainly interesting.

https://deanblundell.substack.com/p/the-trumpepstein-related-body-count

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Hilary M's avatar

Worse than interesting… downright scary!

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Lois W. Halbert's avatar

Me too

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Cindy unknown's avatar

My thoughts exactly

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Julia's avatar

Not cynical. Just a knack for sensing the truth.

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bettievanoverbeke's avatar

Her husband abused her and took her kids

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Leah Baum's avatar

Virginia wrote a letter before her death that she would never commit suicide.

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Ninja Radio 🇨🇦's avatar

hmmm...i hadn't considered that. even so, it's only a guess until or unless it is proven.

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Kathy Aldrich's avatar

Me Too😏

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Maggie's avatar

He’s really pretty lazy but absolutely believes in killing and euthanasia because nobody is truly alive other than himself and people who he temporarily recognizes as important. He is the circus man the showman who happens to have some remarkable magnetism that is unfathomable to most people. Sure he would kill if he knew he would win, not dirty his clothes and get away with it, and if it was easy and no question, his actions in presidency have directly led to innumerable death starting with USAID. I don’t think we could even keep count. I don’t think anybody’s even trying to keep count because nobody’s been paying attention to all of it and organizing it. Isn’t it possible that This is yet another distraction and shiny object? why on earth would this Epstein Commission change his ability to win in the midterms {if they are actually real midterms - and why aren’t we focusing on whether those are going to be viable or reliable??} - but if he won after the January 6 hearings, if he won after the Liability finding for sexual misconduct, if he won after many bankruptcies after 34 felonies - why is really different? This is more immoral? This is more corrupt? Yes this bizarre and revolting [titillating -you cannot help but see] episode in the American dream’s demise - all should come out - but how many months do we have with ever more armed Gestapo getting deployed to our streets, how many more people are being sent to Africa and with no visibility at all? how many more supreme court decisions are going to overturn the constitution turning it inside out? How many more times do we not pay attention that we do NOT have co-equalbranches of government and that everything comes down to SCOTUS decisions, not the Trump’s.

Everything comes down to the Supreme Court who has been constructed carefully over many years by the people who are probably behind project 2025 heritage and all of that probably having to do with Runquist and McConnell, right? Why are we paying attention to what they’re showing us to pay attention to again? Why can’t this torrid revolting (too titillating?) episode in the rapid demise of the American dream not be addressed once we have righted democracy and stopped killing black and brown people and impoverishing our elderly and at risk?

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K Eck's avatar

Isn't this like the third version of why T cut off relations with Epstein?

The version that it was over a real estate deal gone bad seems the most plausible to me, as it is real estate that T seems to really care about, not employees....

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Patricia Williamson's avatar

In an interview Epstein did, he said that Trump stabbed him in the back over a real estate deal and he realized that Trump was a crook. Being a pedo is OK but being a crook is not.

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K Eck's avatar

Wow. Thanks, I did not know that.

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Lucy's avatar

They are BOTH

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Wendy Arnold's avatar

100%. Trump only cares about money and making more money. Real Estate is the means to make more money. The details on how he makes that money has always been shady...like Epstein's money. Abusing people is just for fun with these guys. They seem to belueve they were superior to the rest of us.

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WJB Motown's avatar

Orange Combover only lost money.....even banrupted a casino. The 2 monsters were obsessed with procuring and raping young underage girls. Make sure the Epstein PedoFILE story never leaves the headlines........the Orange rapist must pay.

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Janice Childress's avatar

Guess the sociopathic insecure MUST dominate others. Narcissistic tendencies is normal for self preservation. But disregarding ALL norms and Laws, is abnormal psychopathy of Lets see what and who we can dominate and hurt. "Revenge and Retribution" was his campaign rally call for months in 2023.

Even more scary is approval of over a third, 37%, Project 2025 replacements throughout government and the Whole Republican ❤️‍🩹Party.

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Wendy Arnold's avatar

100%. I am always suspicious of polls because I am not sure who comprised the 37% because Trump has friends in low places who will do anything for him.

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Julie Smalley's avatar

And would Trump even know he had a towel girl at Mar a Largo? He doesn’t know everyone who works for him. And why would he care about a homeless towel girl even if Maxwell lured him away. Trump said after the first time, Epstein did it again. Who was the second person that they stole away?

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K Eck's avatar

Very good questions.

And if T knew about Epsteins crimanal use of young girls, and he knew of one or two lured away from Mar a Lago, why didn't he do anything to save them, or protect other young girls working at MaL?

I only hope that T now admitting he knew of girls being lured away from MaL by Epstein gets him deeper in trouble with maga. After all, the maga crowd kept saying this is about the girls, prosecution for those who abused the children....

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Linda's avatar

Stole? What a bunch of crock…Epstein probably offered her more money because Trump is is a cheap scape with his staff of servants…

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Wendy Arnold's avatar

a member of Maralago's daughter?

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Marsha's avatar

Someone should do a property search and find out who, when and how it ended.

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Janice Childress's avatar

That property was a Wexner (Limited,Victoria Secret) quick flip. The outbidding netted Trump family something like $50 million profit. Wexner was Epstein only client on paper for years.

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Janice Childress's avatar

The Mar A Lago acquisition donated to city by Meriweather Post is interesting too. Documentaries can be viewed.

Renovated to Mar I Lico or Mar A Loco. Taxes, of course we're an issue. Insurance claims also.

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James W's avatar

1. The fact that Todd Blanche was sent in as point man indicates that no competent DOJ attorney was willing to touch the Epstein mess.

2. I ask again…WHY IS NO ONE INTERVIEWING MAURENE COMEY??? She prosecuted Epstein! She knows ALL the gory details hidden in the Epstein Files!! She recently got fired by Pam Bondi so she has zero loyalty to Trump and his minions!!!

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Janet Wilson's avatar

She may have zero loyalty to Trump and his cabal of fanatics, but she is bound by law not to release info she heard in the course of prosecution. I have faith the files will be released or leaked at some point, but likely not until whoever holds them is on their deathbed...

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Kevin Smith's avatar

Hey Law doesn’t matter anymore.

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Janet Wilson's avatar

Well, your legal system is hanging in there, but wow is it under attack from Trump. I am sure that the unredacted evidence in the Epstein files will be leaked at some point as it is bound to be held by multiple safe sources.

But wow. The attacks on your democracy are intensifying now and I really wonder if this fascist train can be stopped...short of a civil war of course.

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Wendy Arnold's avatar

Good point. Go around the hostage taker Maxwell and actually learn facts. I've heard 4 witnesses have died over this sh#t one way or the other.

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Marsha's avatar

And who is “Tiffany” who worked with Katie Johnson and did a deposition in the Maxwell case?

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Julie Smalley's avatar

My thoughts exactly. Why can’t she come out and talk. Congress can subpoena her.

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Janet Wilson's avatar

Sure they could, but Republicans in Congress are working overtime to cover up this stuff. They don't want to lose their cushy jobs, and they are betting the house, literally, on protecting Trump and his cabal of fascist fanatics.

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JavaJunkyMonkey's avatar

As it seems, all we have to do is keep the pressure up, keep talking about trump RAPING little girls, the stupid ass mofo is sinking himself with his responses.

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Patrick Moran's avatar

The whole thing about "stealing'" girls and women shows once again how women are mere objects to Trump. It's insane that this does not bother his female sycophants like Bondi, Habba, Stefanik, etc. And all of the women across the country wbo voted for him.

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Janet Wilson's avatar

Saying it was "stealing" implies the Mar a Lago spa was also a hanky panky site...

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WJB Motown's avatar

The Orange Pedphile pile of dog shit talks about underage girls like a slave owner!!!

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inamarlowe@gmail.com's avatar

Will the Epstein information really change the minds of the people who voted for him? I’m truly asking. They knew he was a felon and an abuser when they voted for him-twice.

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Janet Wilson's avatar

I know this sounds outrageous, but the base will see his "conquests" of adult women as strength and virility. I mean, half of them would gladly grab kitty kats if they could get away with it.

But. For many folks, even hardcore Trump supporters, diddling minors is that one step too far. Remember, approximately 1 in 6 minors have experienced some form of sexual abuse. That would be roughly 13 million Trump voters.

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Kathy H's avatar

Not everyone sexually abuse connects the dots & recognizes abuse, but that's math I could go with. SA is recognized more now, even being underreported still.

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Dolores Piper's avatar

Great explanation - so horrific for those victims including Jess Michaels who was interviewed by Katie Couric. This was an earlier victim before Ghislaine, so the trafficking was already going on before she came into the picture. All these names of men who participated should be revealed.

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Diane Schuler's avatar

Since when has 47 EVER done something for the welfare of another person (such as an employee)? And you can be sure, if he ever did) it would come at a very high price.....

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Janet Edelstein's avatar

Keep it up Michael!! You’re the one who knows the most!!!

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Judith Logue, Ph.D.'s avatar

Trump's M.O. is consistent as usual. Nothing that new. He is smart - he distances himself by mentioning Virginia Giuffre whom Epstein allegedly "stole" from Trump. Now Trump can imply, suggest, or assert that he would have saved Ms Giuffre from Epstein the sleaze.

I expect there will be the usual bribe to Ghislaine Maxwell in return for her freedom. This scandal will go away, and Trump will be free from responsibility and accountability as usual. There will other chaotic or tabloid topics for a media frenzy to keep all of us talking about Trump. It's just another way for Trump to engage Democrats and the media to increase his power and money. Nothing new really. This is now autocracy, theocracy, and kakistocracy. The rule of law is usually too slow to stop criminals. Besides Trump is a master at manipulating and strategizing to use the courts and lawsuits to increase his own success. It's working so far, isn't it. The courts are not usually what stop sociopathy and psychopathy. So far, Trump has gotten away with murder, literally and figuratively and has been unstoppable. Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Osama bin Laden were too, until they were not. Putin has been unstoppable, and he still is. Hard to be optimistic that our democracy and patriarchal culture can stop Trump and his allies.

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Wendy Arnold's avatar

Agree

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Judith Logue, Ph.D.'s avatar

Thank you, Wendy. Do you see any solution? If Trump were to be gone regardless of how (a Putin window, illness/death, assassination, etc), I doubt that J.D. Vance and the rest of the liars would be as deft and capable of manipulating the media as Trump. Sociopathic and psychopathic, sure. But I have more hope that the Democrats could beat them b/c they aren't as good at brainwashing and developing a cult as Trump. Maybe. I sure wish there were an opportunity to find out. Your thoughts?

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Rachel C's avatar

JD could probably remember his lines better 👹

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Judith Logue, Ph.D.'s avatar

LOL. But that's not so attention getting, confusing, or crazy making as Trump's double messages, double binds that maintain power over people and with the media. J.D.'s M.O. won't keep people mesmerized and needing to analyze what J.D. means. People won't need to project their brilliant interpretations or to intellectualize the same way that people and the media do with Trump. Trump, among other things like sociopath and psychopath, has been called an "entertainment narcissist."

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Linda1961 is woke and proud's avatar

The members of the maladministration may think that this new narrative makes it sound like TACO is a protector of young women, but it makes his sound like he OWNS them. Calling them "the help," and whining that "Epstein stole them from him."

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Kathy H's avatar

All the felon's remarks about women have been telling, like protecting women whether they like it or not. Who & the hell does he think he is? Who do any of them think they are? They work for us.

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Interference of 2026 Midterms: Cheeto’s Use of the DOJ to Subvert the Election

MSM(mainstream media) has got to get more involved at reporting what Cheeto’s DOJ is doing and will continue to do to subvert the upcoming 2026 elections There have been a number of actions taken by the Nazi regime and specifically the DOJ since taking office but the efforts have continued to ramp up with the most recent demands by DOJ for all states to hand over registered voting rolls for their “inspection”

This should be taken in context what happened in 2024 There is reputable evidence albeit circumstantial that the current Nazi regime subverted the election and given their success they are out for more This time using the power of the DOJ and federal resources to “legitimately” go after states’ rights to interfere with the election Not only that but create a Palantir/Peter Thiel data base of registered voters in order to disenfranchise legitimate voters ala vigilante challenges, this time on a greater scale (bit.ly/43K4Gl2)

Like the 2024 election there was a multipronged approach to interference and subversion…not just one thing done but a multiplicity of events that led to the Democratic loss Already we are seeing red state gerrymandering, above DOJ demands, and who knows what’s next Can get a better idea of the breadth with Democracy Docket(https://bit.ly/45c27aM)

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Janet Wilson's avatar

When Donald won the presidency this time, I thought "they have lost their democracy".

Given the concern that the 2024 vote was tampered with, and the renewed push by the Republican party to gerrymander/cheat their way past retribution....I think I may have been right. Sadly.

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Maggie's avatar

So so true! Why should we believe any elections have not been tampered? The external factors there - gerrymandering, lies of so many kinds, accessible tolling..

if machines can be manipulated - Gore v Bush, polls are a small sample of respondents who are select skewed just by answering

Exit polls! Tiny sample. People just want so badly to see things as safer more ok and Dems have done us NO favor by colluding. The shaving money off the poorer and business dominance and assuming powers over others has been the struggle in this country from day 1. We should look at where there are successful economies, public participation, wellness in all aspects …

We are human rights violators snd under fascist regime (not just the impulsive Yuck never smart enough or disciplined enough to do any of what’s been happening except for creating the good distractions) snd really how mathematical is the likehood? Maybe the polling places are gonna be staffed for protection with all of the military? Praying for a plan to emerge!

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Sandi Bohle's avatar

Every day, he has another story. It's pissing me off that Ghislaine has now become the center of this. No one is talking to the survivors. Can we please stop calling Ghislaine a victim? Maxwell was no victim, but was lockstep with Jeffrey in finding, grooming, and turning out these young girls and women. In my eyes, she should have gotten life (actually, I think sex crimes need to bring harsher penalties). I'm a psychotherapist who specializes in complex trauma and sexual trauma. Many of my clients are women who have experienced this. They're concerned that she's going to get a "get out of jail free" card.

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Janice Childress's avatar

Yeppers, society thanks you SO much for your work in post trauma. The 'freeze' is REAL. Not to minimize but just to relate: My husband was meeting with his bowling team and corporate buddies and an unfamiliar older man they called 'Professor' was there, in a long London Fog trench coat! Can't make this up, he grabbed my bottom, I swished his hand and stood there, not making eye contact, not saying a word. Did not tell my husband until we got home and he said, "He does that to all women". I asked if he was sane or on drugs or what. Response was he is retired. This was mid nineties and the south. I am a lucky with being in the white collar world of corporate America at the time and usually having a male partner when out in Public.

Two relatives were not as 'lucky' as children. But that is a Priest story that has long been therapies, litigated and predator/perpetrators now deceased.

My state passed a law to make mandatory Chaplains be put in Public Schools in Vice Principal or Counseling Office.

What could go wrong? What are your thoughts on making it mandatory that minimum of two adults, preferred one female one male, be at every childhood setting? After school events with 2 adults, coaching with two coaches, theater with two Directors, churches with two Bible Study teachers,..etc. ?

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Kelvin Hobbs's avatar

“Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.” “Do you have to salt your truth so heavily that it does not even — quench thirst any more?” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Evil is the vulgar lover who loves the body rather than the soul, inasmuch as he is not even stable, because he loves a thing which is in itself unstable, and therefore when the bloom of youth which he was desiring is over, he takes wing and flies away, in spite of all his words and promises. ~ Plato

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Rick Cobello's avatar

Thank you for your persistence!

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Phgladko's avatar

They have to be on file somewhere. Some hard drive, some archive, some government subfile on someone's laptop. Gosh the GOP was so hell bent on getting Hillary's and Hunter's laptops, why aren't we so gung ho on getting the skinny on the Epstein files? They gotta be somewhere. Where are the hackers that we are so often warned about?

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ramona j's avatar

In Ivankas grave

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Phgladko's avatar

Ivanka is still alive though.

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ramona j's avatar

Oops. Thanks Ivana .silly me

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