This Weekend in Politics, Bulletin 417.
… NYT: “Sen. Lindsey Graham, a SC Republican and stalwart ally of Trump who was a forceful advocate for an interventionist US foreign policy, has died, his office announced early on Sunday. He was 71. He died of a ‘brief and sudden’ illness on Sat evening. Graham had been scheduled to appear on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ on Sunday, after a recent trip to Ukraine.”
… “SC Gov. Henry McMaster can immediately appoint a temporary replacement to fill Graham’s Senate seat. According to SC law, an election for a full-term successor would be held in Nov. Graham’s death comes as another influential senator, Mitch McConnell, is currently hospitalized for undisclosed health reasons. It leaves Senate Republicans without a senior lawmaker and reliable vote as they face pressure from Trump to continue advancing his legislative agenda.”
… NBC: “Emergency personnel responded to a call for ‘cardiac arrest’ at Graham’s Capitol Hill home on Sat night, according to police scanner audio obtained by NBC. EMS audio later indicated CPR was in progress. Photographs from the scene show paramedics carrying a person on a stretcher from Graham’s home to an awaiting ambulance. Police cars and fire trucks were also on site.”
… “A top staffer to Graham told NBC early Sunday that there was no indication the lawmaker was feeling unwell prior to his death. He had been scheduled to appear on ‘Meet the Press’ on Sunday. Graham was a frequent guest on the broadcast, appearing a total of 63 times over the years.”
… Kash Patel posted: “The FBI is assisting local authorities and has made every necessary resource available.”
… That post poured gasoline on the fire of the right-wing conspiracy theory machine, which was already out early. Laura Loomer: “Did Russia just poison Lindsey Graham?
There seriously needs to be an investigation. Russia just sent a delegation to Khamenei’s funeral in Tehran where the IRGC and funeral organizers was calling for myself, Trump and Graham to be assassinated.”
… “Lindsey Graham was in Ukraine one day ago calling for a Russian sanctions bill that he claimed the WH supports. Now he is suddenly dead from a random illness according to his staff. Did Russia just murder a US Senator?”
… Fox reporter Chad Pergram several hours after Kash’s post: “FBI agents are assisting MPD officers with the normal process at Sen. Graham’s house. There is NO indication of foul play at this point, according to two federal law enforcement sources.
MPD is the lead law enforcement agency at this point.”
… Lindsey’s last statement to the press was in Ukraine: “We've reached an agreement with the WH on a version of the Russian sanctions bill that they will support. It means it's going to become law. So, when I get back to Washington, I'm going to go with Sen. Blumenthal to the Republican and Democratic leaders to see if we can find time to move this Russian sanctions package that would give tools to Trump to help end this war.”
… “There are some things we can do on the technology front to build on the lethality of Ukraine to protect itself from ballistic missile attack. If we did that, combined with creating tools to punish those countries that prop up Putin and make money off this war, then I think we've got the best chance since I've been coming here in the last five years to get Putin to the peace table.”
… Ukraine war correspondent Christopher Miller: “This was Lindsey Graham just days ago here in Kyiv, touring Ukraine’s SkyFall drone factory. I met with people who saw him over the past couple of days include Congressman McCaul who was telling me about the sanctions and defense support bills they were working on. There doesn’t appear to have been any outwardly sign of illness, according to the people who were with him.”
… Axios: “Graham spoke with Trump by phone Sat night and briefed him on his recent trip to Ukraine and the Russia sanctions bill he wanted the Senate to vote on soon. Trump told Graham he was preparing to launch fresh strikes against Iran after another attack on commercial ships in the Strait of Hormuz.”
… “A person who spoke with Graham shortly afterward said the senator complained that he was feeling unwell. When the person urged him to seek medical attention immediately, Graham said he would do so Sunday morning after his scheduled appearance on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’.”
… Graham then joked: “I can’t die now. I still need to do the Russia sanctions, get Iran sorted out and do Israeli-Saudi normalization.”
… Statement from Graham’s office: “The preliminary examination findings were: Aortic Dissection due to Arteriosclerotic Cardiovascular Disease. The death certificate will be PENDING until all the toxicological and microscopic testing are finalized and at that point the death certificate will be updated to reflect the cause of death and appropriately classify the manner of death.”
… Trump did two phone interviews to talk about Lindsey. One was with CNN’s Jake Tapper:
“I think Lindsey Graham was going to be there very strongly on the filibuster. He was coming aboard for terminating the filibuster.”
Q - “Are you back at war with Iran and who controls the Strait of Hormuz? Trump: Out of respect for Lindsey, I’m not talking about it. We hit them very hard last night. We had a deal yesterday. They were giving up everything and then all of the sudden, they hit a ship.”
Q - Iran has declared the Strait of Hormuz closed. Is that true? Trump: It’s open as far as I’m concerned. Don’t talk about it. Talk about the reason the you asked me to speak.”
… Trump then went on Meet the Press and said Trump called him last night right before he died:
"We were all set for the SAVE Act. He sounded a little tired. It could have been his last call. This is a big blow to the SAVE Act, let me tell you.”
Q - “What was his signature moment in the senate? Trump: His moment on Brett Kavanaugh was one of the classics I think in the history of the Senate. When he defended Brett Kavanaugh so brilliantly. Brett might not have made it except for that. They were treating him very unfairly. Lindsey was so angry."
… Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) on Fox: “One of the best ways we can honor Lindsey Graham’s legacy would be to take this up and pass it this month.”
… Fox host Bret Baier later suggested that the SAVE Act should be renamed the Lindsey Graham Save America Act to honor him and get senators to flip their votes.
Q - “Who should replace Graham? Trump: I have somebody that I think would be great but I don’t want to say it now. The governor is a good friend of mine.”
"I thought Lindsey was gonna be living forever. I said, 'Lindsey, you're gonna live forever.' And he was gonna have a big victory. He was scheduled to win by a lot. He was scheduled."
… Trump and his Secret Service detail then headed for the golf course.
… Benjamin Netanyahu on Fox: “The last conversation I had with him, I said, ‘I’m going to phase out the military support for Israel’, and he went ballistic. He was so concerned with our security that he fought for increasing America’s aid. That tells you what kind of a person this extraordinary friend was.”
… What a surprise that Netanyahu says his last conversation with Lindsey was that he wanted US military aid to Israel to continue forever.
… Graham on March 1 on Fox: “I don’t know who will take over Iran after this regime collapses but don’t screw with Donald Trump. You won’t live to regret it.”
… Graham on March 9 on Fox: “I will be with Israel until my dying day.”
… Sen. John Fetterman: “The US Senate lost a foreign policy giant.”
… Fox host Sean Hannity misspelled Lindsey’s name in his tribute to his “good friend.” After I posted that he misspelled it, Hannity deleted it and reposted it with the correct spelling.
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… Joe Biden: “Jill and I are shocked by the sudden passing of Lindsey Graham. Lindsey and I served together in Congress for over a decade, and worked closely on many issues throughout the years. We traveled the world together as members of the Senate Foreign Relations committee. We disagreed often, and sometimes loudly.”
… “Lindsey and I did agree on the profound importance of public service. Like me, he loved the Senate as an institution, even with all its flaws and complexities. To his family, his staff, his constituents in SC, and everyone who loved him: Jill and I are keeping you in our prayers.”
… Katie Miller replied to Biden’s post: “Did your staff write this?”
… Igor Bobic with NOTUS: “Senate was set to take up the NDAA upon returning from the break. Will be harder with Graham’s passing and McConnell’s absence amid rising Dem opposition over Iran. Graham also served on the Judiciary Commitee, which is scheduled to hold a hearing on Blanche’s nomination this coming week. Rs now down to 11-10 majority, meaning any R who opposes Blanche could block his nom from proceeding.”
… Politico: “Lt. Gov. Pamela Evette is seen as a top option for McMaster to appoint to temporarily fill Graham’s seat. She and the governor share a close relationship, but perhaps more important in the state’s deep-red conservative political environment, Evette also has Trump’s stamp of approval.”
… “She ran for governor this year and was the first candidate to win Trump’s backing. But as her campaign lagged, the president also issued a late endorsement for the eventual winner, AG Alan Wilson. Evette could also reactivate her gubernatorial campaign’s infrastructure to begin quickly mounting a Senate primary bid.”
… “The slate of recent failed gubernatorial candidates are also potential contenders in the snap election to fill Graham’s vacancy on the Republican ticket. One of them, Rep. Nancy Mace, is already considering a bid. She plans to begin polling for her exploratory bid this week. Mace finished 5th in this year’s gubernatorial primary. And she’s not the only one in SC’s Republican congressional delegation who is eyeing the seat: Rep. Joe Wilson (Alan’s father) is also interested in the seat.”
… Politico’s Meredith Lee Hill: “Senior House Republicans are working to keep their members out of consideration for the appointment to fill Graham’s Senate seat out of fear of further eroding their razor-thin majority, including conversations with SC GOP officials. Trump allies also say they will be able to block Nancy Mace from the seat. They’re making clear in private she has openly clashed with the president over the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files and other key votes.”
… Hours after Graham’s death was announced, Mace posted: “Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.”
… Rep. Mike Lawler (R-NY) responded: “Literally no one is pulling you back in. This post is grotesque. Taking glee over the potential of becoming a Senator because of a vacancy created by the sudden death of your colleague is vile. Completely unfit to serve.”
… KY Gov. Andy Beshear: “I publicly and privately urged the last admin to address the public’s concerns with the former president’s health. I’m calling on Sen. McConnell to do the same and provide voters an update on his own health. Let’s end the crazy speculation. Just tell us what’s going on.”
… McConnell answered today, posting a “proof of life” photo along with this statement: “To my fellow Kentuckians – “When you elected me to a 7th term and made me our Commonwealth’s longest serving Senator, you did so trusting that I’d keep showing up to fight for you every day. And over the past several weeks, Elaine and I have appreciated both your well wishes and your honest questions about what was keeping me away from the Senate.”
“My doctors have confirmed that I didn’t break any bones or suffer a concussion. I didn’t have a heart attack or a stroke. I don’t have any tumors or hemorrhages. But I was briefly unconscious and was taken to the hospital. While receiving excellent care over the past several weeks, I’ve also had to deal with a mild case of pneumonia.”
“I’ve submitted to every test they can think of to help figure out what caused this incident. And I’m continuing to do everything they ask to speed my recovery. In fact, with signs of continued progress, I’ve been able to move from hospital care to a rehabilitation center where I’ll keep regaining my strength.”
“On the advice of my doctors, I won’t be able to return to the Senate floor to vote quite yet. You’re right to expect your representatives to work hard for you. And part of my decision to retire at the end of my term this coming January was being honest about the demands of Senate work. But I still have unfinished business to complete on your behalf, and I have every intention of finishing the job you elected me to do.”
““I’ll keep working hard to get back on the Senate floor as soon as possible. And I’ll keep you posted on the progress of my recovery. Until then, I’m so grateful for your prayers and well wishes.”
… The Maine Democratic Party has done a remarkable job under very difficult circumstances to put together a fair and inclusive process. They announced that all 16 counties will hold meetings next weekend to choose the delegates to represent them at the state convention the following week. These meetings are open to the public and any Maine Dem can vote on the delegates. I will be attending the Cumberland County meeting.
… I am attending because I want to see how this plays out and also because I have submitted an application to be one of the Cumberland County delegates to the state convention. A total of 601 delegates statewide will be chosen. Cumberland is by far the largest county so will have the most delegates, but the numbers haven’t been announced yet. I am completely undecided and would likely make up my mind at the convention if I am chosen.
… Reuters: “US and Iranian forces exchanged heavy missile and drone assaults with Tehran targeting US facilities in states across the Gulf on Sunday and saying it had again closed the vital Strait of Hormuz. A series of attacks between the US and Iran over the past several days led Trump to declare the end of a ceasefire, though Trump has left the door open to continued negotiations.”
… “The escalation followed several attacks on commercial ships in the area. Iran said it had closed the strait after firing a warning shot that struck a vessel traveling on an unapproved route, and said on Sunday it had disabled a second vessel. The strait will remain closed until ‘the end of U.S. interference in this region,’ Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said.”
… “CENTCOM, however, said commercial vessels continue to transit through the waterway that carried one-fifth of the world’s oil and LNG shipments before the war. Central Command said US forces hit 140 Iranian military targets on Sat, out of more than 300 during three nights of strikes ‘to degrade Iran’s ability to attack civilian mariners and commercial vessels freely transiting the strait.’ Iranian state media reported explosions in a number of port cities.”
… “In response, the Guards said they had destroyed a command and control center and drone hangars at US ally Jordan, targeted a US radar site in Kuwait, attacked US aircraft carrier support and refueling platforms in Oman and destroyed a jet maintenance centre and command facility in Qatar.”
… Iranian parliament speaker MB Ghalibaf posted today: “The era of one-sided deals is OVER. We told you: keep your word or pay the price. Reality is knocking.”
… “The US revoked the license authorizing the sale of Iranian crude on Tues after Qatari and Saudi commercial tankers came under fire earlier in the week, prompting a series of tit-for-tat US and Iranian strikes. Kuwait says 3 northern border posts and an offshore oil platform were hit in attacks, causing material damage and injuring 1 worker. The military says it remains on full alert.”
… Iran expert Danny Citrinowicz: “There is no quick fix when it comes to bypassing the Strait of Hormuz. None of the alternatives being discussed can overcome the basic reality of geography. If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz while the Houthis disrupt the Bab al-Mandab, the practical consequence is that large volumes of Gulf oil and LNG will not reach Asian markets within a reasonable timeframe.”
… “Existing alternatives simply lack the capacity to replace these maritime routes. Geography remains the decisive strategic factor. Iran understands this well and so do global energy markets.”
… The Hill: “Reports surfaced this week that Israel shared intelligence with the US indicating Iran was devising a plan to kill Trump. The development came on the heels of a security decision to have Trump depart the NATO summit in Turkey on the old Air Force One, which is understood to be more protective, instead of the newly refurbished Qatari-gifted jet. And it followed days of traded strikes and the revocation of Iran’s oil sanctions waiver.”
… Trump posted: “1000 Missiles are Locked and Loaded and aimed at the Islamic Republic of Iran, with thousands of more to immediately follow, should the Iranian Govt act on its threat, pronounced in many corners of the Globe, to assassinate, or attempt to assassinate ME! Orders have already been given, and the US Military is ready, willing, and able, for a one year period of time, subject to extension, to completely decimate and destroy all areas of Iran - PRAISE BE TO ALLAH!”
… NYT: The Trump admin issued subpoenas on Friday to several journalists for the NYT, after the news outlet reported this week on security concerns involving Trump’s new Qatari-donated Air Force One. The subpoenas - which seek to force the reporters to testify before a federal grand jury in Manhattan on Wed - were an extraordinary escalation in Trump’s efforts to threaten and intimidate news organizations.”
… NYT general counsel David McCraw: “The appearance of fed law enforcement agents on the doorstep of news reporters should shock the conscience of any American who believes in the Constitution and the press freedom it protects. Our journalists report the facts and advance the American public’s right to know how their govt is operating and their taxpayer dollars are being used. This brazen act should be seen as nothing more than an attempt to prevent the public from knowing what is happening in their country by intimidating journalists from doing their jobs.”
… Fox chief national security correspondent Jennifer Griffin posted: “This action by the US govt to subpoena reporters for reporting legitimate news on security concerns about Air Force 1 should alarm every American.”
… NYT: “A federal judge has reluctantly granted a request by DOJ to formally dismiss a criminal case accusing 5 members of the Proud Boys of seditious conspiracy in connection with the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. In an order filed on Friday night, Judge Timothy J. Kelly said that he did not agree with the Trump admin’s decision to dismiss the charges against the Proud Boys.”
… “Judge Kelly, who was appointed by Trump, simply noted that he had little choice but to accept the admin’s move to end the case. Kelly nonetheless went out of his way to say that the president’s views on Jan. 6 were well known, regardless of whether ‘those views are based on fact or fiction.’”
… Kelly also took pains to contradict the tide of revisionist history surrounding the riot, writing that what took place at the Capitol was “a perilous event” that was an assault on “the peaceful transfer of power from one president to the next, what President Reagan called ‘nothing less than a miracle.’”
… NYT: “The Israeli settlers had guns and Rep. Ro Khanna was scared. On Wed, Khanna was visiting the ruins of Khirbet Zanuta, a tiny Palestinian Bedouin village in the southern West Bank that was abandoned after escalating attacks from settlers and then demolished. Suddenly, a car of men holding guns pulled up and blocked the narrow road out of the village.”
… “The men began taunting the congressman and his team, swearing at them in Hebrew and Arabic and kicking the tires of their minibus, according to accounts, photographs and video footage from Khanna, an aide and his security guard. A photographer for NYT traveling in a different vehicle also saw the interaction. Soon, a Jeep with more men arrived.”
… “When two cars from the Israeli military pulled up, Khanna assumed the soldiers were there to help him pass. Instead, the soldiers smoked cigarettes, chatted with the men and after the settlers left, moved a car to block the road, he recounted.”
… Khanna: “I felt powerless in that situation, which is not an easy thing, as I have a lot of privilege in life. Imagine how people feel every day, Palestinians under the occupation, if they could make an American congressperson feel powerless for 90 minutes.”
… In a statement on Sat, a spokesperson for the Israeli military said that it had received a report of Israeli civilians unlawfully blocking the vehicles of foreign nationals and members of the news media near the village. Troops were dispatched and reopened the road. The military disputed that its soldiers had participated in blocking the exit and said that the identity of the armed civilian was being reviewed.”
… Reuters: “A Miami-based businessman wanted in Albania for allegedly laundering drug money is suspected of faking the deeds to land where Jared Kushner wants to build a multi-billion-dollar resort, the country’s organized crime-fighting agency said in case files reviewed by Reuters. Artur Shehu denies all accusations against him, said his lawyer, Kujtim Cakrani, who confirmed that Albanian prosecutors had issued a warrant seeking Shehu’s arrest for laundering money for drug gangs.”
… “The case files accuse Shehu and associates of trafficking South American cocaine into European ports, and laundering the funds by using them to establish a real estate empire, including with falsified land-ownership documents. In April, Shehu sold the strip of pristine Albanian coastline for the planned resort to Albania Land Development, a company which is owned by the Kushner-backed project’s developers.”
… Prosecutors wrote in the case files: “Reasonable suspicions are formed, based on evidence, that the above‑mentioned assets were acquired through the use of forged documents.”
… Fox host Mark Levin was ranting on his show this weekend on the reasons why he believes the US is superior to Europe:
“Do you think there is a Costco anywhere of its likes in Europe? Let alone in the third world? Or a Walmart?”
“Look around you! Look at the grandeur that exists! You go into a major supermarket - 10 different types of meat. Ground meat - you want 85% fat? 90% fat-free? All kinds of drinks: health drinks, sodas, juices. 50 different types of milk - buttermilk, half-and-half, 1%, 2%, 5%.”
“You want butter? You want margarine? You want butter from Ireland? From Britain? Look at the wine section. Domestic wines, international wines. Go to the fish section: all kinds of shrimp, cooked or uncooked, lobster, crab—whatever you want. Pre-cooked foods, and so forth and so on. And it’s not just for the rich. Anyone can walk into these stores. Anybody!”
… I would just note that nobody is disputing that there are stores with lots of nice stuff in them. The issue is that Trump’s foreign and domestic policies have made nearly everything in them more expensive. Also Europe has nice stores with nice stuff - lots of it healthier than here.
“Would you rather see a doctor and get surgery in our country or Socialist Canada or Britain?”
“We have no monopolies in America. We have no oligarchs in American - none. They exist in marxist and fascist regimes.”
… Trump posted an insanely long, deranged rant on Truth Social. This is just a small part of it:
“Maggot Hagerman, one of the most unattractive people in the News “Business,” and her lightweight assistant, Jonathan Swan, and The Failing New York Times itself, which spends all of its energy on negative stories about me. All I do is WIN, often against all odds but, after the Big Election Success, there’s no, “Gee, he won, he did a great job!” There’s no saying, “Maybe we were wrong about him, the people were right” or, maybe, “Congratulations, we wish you Great Success for our Country!”
No, but after I won the Election FOR THE THIRD TIME, the same people start immediately, all over again — The Failing New York Times, The LOST ITS WAY Wall Street Journal, MSDNC (They changed their name to MSNOW because nobody was watching!), Ignorant CNN, with some of the Worst No Name Anchors in History, and all three Fake Networks, ABC, CBS, NBC. All of their Readership, Ratings, and Viewership, are “tanking” because the Public understands they are, as I have said right from the beginning, “FAKE NEWS!” They have no credibility, or it would have been impossible for me to win with only bad stories, especially in a Historic Landslide.
Think of it, this was my opposition! If the Election was held again today, I would win by even more - Actually, much more! The Dumocrats don’t have what it takes, their Policies are wrong, and they are, generally, stupid people. They are going COMMUNIST because they are a desperately “sinking ship,” and there’s not a thing they can do about it. Instead of writing inaccurate, false articles, for over 10 years now, shouldn’t it be time that they say, “We give up, we can’t beat him, there seems nothing we can do.”
Isn’t it time they say, “TRUMP IS THE BEST POLITICAL ATHLETE OF ALL TIME! CONGRATULATIONS, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE BEATEN US FOR 10 YEARS, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO WASTE OUR TIME FIGHTING YOU ANY LONGER. WE CAN’T WIN. DO A GREAT JOB, SIR, RUNNING OUR COUNTRY.”
… Education Secretary Linda McMahon on Fox: "One stat that just astounded me was that 1 out of 10 school students across the country have some sort of sexual misconduct perpetrated on them by teachers or school staff. And what happens? No action is taken. Schools are going to be in jeopardy of losing their federal funding."
… Health care advocate Melanie D’Arrigo: “Linda McMahon is named in an active civil lawsuit alleging she and her husband ignored, and helped cover up, systemic child sexual abuse by a WWE employee during the 1980s and 1990s.”
… Adam Michel, Director of Tax Policy for the conservative Cato Institute, on the new Trump Accounts: “Unfortunately, Congress got the tax treatment of these accounts backwards. Unlike a, say, 529 plan, which is a tax-advantaged savings account for education purposes, which money goes in after tax from family members, and then is tax-free on the way out. So all of the growth is exempt from the capital gains and dividends tax.”
… “A Trump account, money that goes in after tax, is still taxed on the way out. The growth is taxed actually worse than the normal capital gains rate, which is a lower rate. It’s taxed at the ordinary income tax rate. And so for savings beyond the govt deposit, Trump accounts are actually the least tax-advantaged savings vehicle in the tax code. And so that makes them not all of that useful for most Americans.”
… The Trump Sports Curse continues. Conor McGregor blew out his knee last night in the first few second of his UFC fight. He posted later: “My head gasket is gone. Destroyed. I had no injury / injuries going into the fight. I was throwing kicks, planted and jumping, all throughout camp as well as backstage before the fight. This came out of nowhere. I am beyond dark here. I can only describe it as hell.”
… “I was so sharp and so ready for this fight I cannot believe what has happened. I was calm, ready, and confident. I am in shock what has taken place. The devil is literally staring at me right in front of my face here. I am not engaging. I will be at church tomorrow.”
… Speaking of the devil right in front of his face, here he is in the Oval Office with Trump.
… HuffPost: “The country is in the midst of a nationwide outbreak of explosive diarrhea caused by a parasite the CDC stopped surveilling at the federal level in July 2025. That’s around the same time the Trump admin began haphazardly attacking and defunding federal health and science agencies under the guise of ‘govt efficiency,’ with RFK Jr. separately also pushing out critical federal scientists and researchers.”
… “Prior to that date, a collaborative CDC program called FoodNet helped federal and state regulators track 8 foodborne pathogens. Among them was cyclospora, a heat-loving spherical parasite that’s sickened 1,000 people in an ongoing outbreak in Michigan (the state’s worst), with similar illnesses cropping up in 28 other states.”
… “In addition to cyclospora, surveillance of campylobacter, listeria, shigella, vibrio and Yersinia was cut. FoodNet now only regularly monitors two diseases: Salmonella and Shiga toxin-producing E. coli.”
… This is now what Trump’s Presidential Walk of Fame looks like at the WH. One person posted on social media that it looks like a Thai restaurant.
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I call bullshit on the last call Trump had with Lindsey. Trump had to seize his death to make it about him. Fucking narcissist. Lindsey's last words "Save America." Bullshit.
I don’t believe turtle boys photo. I want video proof with a tv on and current paper and a live phone call with audio from both sides.