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Michael Popok and Karen Friedman Agnifilo are back on the top-rated Legal AF podcast, debating the biggest legal and political stories of the week. They break down last night’s joint address and its impact on federal cases, including Trump’s shocking confession that Elon Musk runs DOGE, his awkward fist bump with a visibly uncomfortable Chief Justice Roberts, and the broader implications of Musk’s influence.
They also discuss the Supreme Court’s two bombshell rulings—one forcing the Trump administration to immediately pay $2 billion in humanitarian aid, and the other allowing raw sewage to contaminate water supplies (yuck).
Plus, they cover two new summary judgment orders requiring Trump to reinstate government watchdogs he unlawfully fired, and a new appeal brief filed by Trump's latest legal team in his ongoing attempt to transfer his felony conviction from state to federal court.
All this and more at the intersection of law and politics—don’t miss it!
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I only want a hear..,The Russian president has been ejected from the WH & MAKE REPUBLICANS EXTINCT!
The Constitution requires at least a two party government. But we need to make magas extinct. They are not true, honorable Republicans like McCain and Goldwater.
I concur!!!
or Lincoln or my grandfather or father who were e honorable, egalitarian, and financially conservative (me, very blue since '62, but I learned a lot from them!).
I think Lincoln would be considered a Democrat in this day and age.
"What's in a name?" (Romeo and Juliet)
Me too! Don't want to hear what Crimes he keeps committing, but what finally will PUT IM IN JAIL!!!
You need a new party in place of the Republicans. And a third to keep the other two honest and focused. For too long, partisan based polarization has ruined your government.
More losses we hope. The court has to protect Democracy
Or not. What did Roberts do that made Komrade Krasnov[trump] thank him. Why did he say "Thank you again. Thank you again. Won't forget it"?
A free pass to do whatever he wants when acting as President.
?????? Why are we still peeling this stinky rotten onion? Can’t wait until the GAME OVER light flashes on the Empire State Building or the new Time Square billboard!
Trump won’t care. He will freeze the funds, anyway. The SCOTUS know they are powerless to stop this runaway train. The SCOTUS made all of this possible.
I don't think SCOTUS likes him thumping their noses in defiance. They can rule on future, more important cases to him, in a different light.
You NEVER bite the hand that has control of how your life will be in the future.
I do believe that SCOTUS has a pride issue.
Unfortunately, Thomas and Alito will continue to side with him on everything, legal or not.
lThe Supreme Court gave the Orange Felon immunity. What were they thinking????
Now the criminal is a king.
This is what total incompetence gets you Donnie Boy. Other than being an extremely mean SOB, he is not real bright. His only skills are conning and bullying. Wake up MAGA supporters. You will be impacted by his BS as well because he does not care about anything or anyone other than himself. He has used you to reach his goals which do not have your benefit in mind.
they are too ignorant to see it now. The hunch coucher JD is going to get thrown under the bus sooner than later. The orange mango cartoon character shows no loyalty to anyone.
I think that Vance is thinking about how long before tfrump
Crocks for him to take over
Impeach both of them now!!
You have that right Patrice.
EXPOSE/RESIST/REMOVE LIAR, Convict/Traitor Trump!! Impeach!!
True Republicans who actually care about the country need to make a new party and dissociate from the Republican/MAGA brand. Having two good parties is important to see a wider variety of ideas on the table.
At this time, we need to get these essentially outsiders out of the government, as they don't care about either party in general, but only care about filling their pockets
True Americans would be prudent to look to alternatives to the Uniparty Duopoly for candidates that actually represent their interests, instead of the Military Industrial Complex, Prison Industrial Complex and Israeli Industrial Complex.
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Things have to be beyond obvious for this court to go against trump. Interesting they are doing it from time to time...first time they's stood sort of for the Constitution. Totally unrelated sort of , has anyone (or everyone) read about the Ides of March campaign to have millions of post cards sent to trump at the white house on March 15 telling him how much se disapprove of him? If even 1/4 of the Meidas Mighty could send one that would be great! I'm trying to come up with something short, to the point with some specifics and no emotion/personal attacks to put on mine.
I thought it was Great idea to send President Zelensky postcards of apology and to tell them that's not who we are as Americans. I bought 30 at the post office and passed them out to friends and family. Here's the address:
President Volodymyr Zelensky
Embassy of Ukraine 🇺🇦
3350 M. St. NW
Washington DC 20007
Awesome!! I just sent one today...sadly I don't have any friends to share with (it's not that I'm not friendly, I just live in a 100% maga area and lost my friends to maga).
Yes, I am trying to think of something that would really target a narcissistic psychopath.
For years, I sent post cards to clients, family, and friends as I traveled in Europe, UK, Japan, Canada. Many folks shared how much they enjoyed it.
Another splendid account of current court shenanigans!! Thanks you two...
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I have been for a long time. Thank you
As a DLCC Delegate, I will be meeting with Senator Slotkin and All of the Michigan legislators on the 18th at our DLCC Meeting in Novi, Michigan. As the Designated Speaker as a Vietnam Veteran, I will speak and update what is happening at the VA, and what/who is putting them and their families in Peril to Veterans & Active Military. I always mention that if they want to receive Intelligent, Professional, Honest Global News, they should subscribe to Meidas Touch. Keep Exposing how Sick, Traitor MAGA are putting our Military in Peril by removing Honorable Generals and putting a Drunken, sexual predator Moron in charge of the DOD!
Thank you for your service on our behalf! Much success to you and Sen. Slotting at the Nov, MIi meeting
Alito’s dissent raises the question of his mental competence. Who would say that a holding that an incurred debrt must be paid is “stunning?” Are we seeing dementia?
Why doesn't the orange dictator just set up lodgings for all his lawyers in every state 🤡 so at least the taxpayers are not being charged for the travel expenses 🙄 and maybe the local jails can feed these bottom feeders while we're at it
How bout this for a start! 1st Amendment! Why is tRump allowed to broadcast lies online but "WE THE PEOPLE" can't answer him. His comments, we can't answer!? WHY!? GD IT!
Good!!!!!!
Trump: "Make America Great Again."
Global Community: "Make America Go Away!"
No offense, but y'all are working under the assumption that a) there will be mid-terms in the first place and b) that there will even be a country left at that point.
My concern also. Musk bought tRump the presidency and I suspect he will be involved in the mid-terms. He's having fun and relishes being popular. Also the power
He won in the special counsel case at the appellate level on 03/05/2025 and on 03/06/2025, the special counsel resigned. More dire developments to come. How are we forestalling these? By 'we', of course, I mean the elected Democrats and anyone with standing to bring a lawsuit.
Democrats can't bring lawsuits they are not the DOJ..
The Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision forcing the Trump administration to release $2 billion in humanitarian aid is a critical judicial check on executive overreach. With Roberts and Barrett siding against Trump, this ruling highlights a potential fracture in the conservative bloc. Despite the clear illegality of withholding congressionally allocated funds, the administration’s blatant refusal to comply with Judge Ali’s original order revealed its disregard for both the law and basic human needs. This decision is a rare but significant pushback against Trump’s authoritarian tendencies, signaling that even a right-leaning court may not rubber-stamp his most extreme power grabs.
Democrats should have walked put with Al Greene. Shame on the ten Democrats who bent the knee to fascists.
Donald Trump’s latest legal stunt, trying to rip his felony conviction out of the New York courts and toss it into the federal system, is just another desperate attempt to dodge accountability. He has spent his entire life wriggling out of consequences like a greased-up carnival escape artist, and now he wants SCOTUS to bail him out. The argument? Oh, I was just too presidential while falsifying business records to cover up hush money payments to a porn star. Give me a break.
This isn’t some grand constitutional crisis. It is a convicted felon whining that state laws apply to him. The Supreme Court already gave him immunity for acts of governance, not for playing back-alley bookkeeper with Michael Cohen. But of course he doesn’t want the New York courts handling his appeal because they will actually enforce the law. So he is running to his fist-bumping buddy John Roberts, praying for a judicial miracle. Spoiler alert: he doesn’t deserve one.
Donald Trump’s public confirmation that Elon Musk runs Doge is a legal earthquake, exposing the administration’s pattern of deception. For months, the DOJ has maintained in court that Musk does not control Doge, even providing alternative figureheads to avoid legal liability. Yet, in a single moment of Trumpian bravado, he obliterated that entire defense by singling out Musk and calling him the leader. This contradiction is more than just political theater—it’s a direct affront to judicial integrity.
Federal judges are already frustrated with the administration’s evasiveness, with some calling their arguments “opaque” and demanding clarity. Now, plaintiffs in multiple cases have seized on Trump’s statement as definitive proof that the government has been misleading the courts. Judges do not take kindly to being lied to. At best, this fuels contempt motions and possible sanctions against the DOJ attorneys forced to defend these shifting positions. At worst, it undermines Trump’s broader executive authority, making future court battles even harder.
This is the classic Trumpian cycle: gaslight, contradict, and dare the legal system to keep up. But courts are not campaign rallies, and judges don’t tolerate being played. The repercussions of this blunder will be swift and severe.
I couldn't even watch it. It made me sick. Trump is insane.
I think it's bc we probably won't have any future elections.
You guys ARE THE BEST! Thank you POPOK! Thank you KAREN! With your great knowledge and commentary to paraphrase Nikita Kruschev, WE WILL BURY THEM.
It should be no surprise to anyone that Trump isn’t paying. He never paid his contractors as a private citizen… Also, he’s probably already siphoned off those funds into his own personal offshore account somewhere by now. He is the King of Thieves!
Siphoning it to Gaza for the future grand opening of Kushner Shores.
The dissenting justices are corrupt as hell.
Can Trump and Musk go to jail?
Great content. Thank you.
I love every time I get to hear you Karen! I saw you on CNN. I truly have so much respect for you!
Has Trump signed an executive order to clear cut 280 million acres of national forests?
I live in Oregon, coastal area and we are already seeing truckload after truckload of logs coming down out of the hills. Not old growth yet but, sure they are making their way up.
Same here in Bend. Don't know where exactly and no one seems to know; or, are unwilling to say.
That isn't legal is it? Wait, wth is wrong with me? Doesn't appear that makes a difference to these demons in our White House.
If he has't, he's going to--like maybe this afternoon????????????
Okay ppl, I’ve been to Eugene, which is the closest city to where I live and we are definitely seeing some bigger logs on the log trucks so somebody is signing something and getting the log trucks carrying something bigger so I’ll keep my eyes open. Doesn’t do any good to see who’s hauling they’re just doing their job. we need to stop it at the source! Cut off the hand that wields the power!
I heard he had and also wants to drill in the parks
God. I hope not.
The argument of Republicans not worrying about a Democrat having the same powers is because they truly believe there will never be another fair election. As long as kElon is roaming free, there probably won’t be free and fair elections.
Thank you for your great analysis. It’s very important!
Are podcasts available anywhere else?
We need clean elections.
Hope is not lost. I believe in all the great work you and the brothers do.
And the People rising up. Boycotting oligarchs. Saying something when needed, versus ignoring. :)
My concern is what we saw happen before will happen again. Being that these cases drag on and on because of multiple appeals etc,etc,etc. By the time it all plays out, it doesn't matter any longer because all of the damage is done. We need the courts to act fast!
And arrest those in contempt. No one should be above the law. But we all know that is not how it works.
Yup..
Or they don't think there will ever be another fair election
He is not planning on leaving office, except in a coffin.
Then it’s getting left to his sons to take over he more or less said this this week he wants to be a dictators and leave it to his family to follow
I didn't know this. Definitely the Zombie Apocalypse.
As to the Trump felony conviction, the Court may well be looking for ways to distinguish and rein in their widely criticized presidential immunity decision.
I will believe that when I see it. SCOTUS is ran by MAGATTS. At least two rapists. But, we can hope Barrett and Robert's start waking up more. Time tells all, but we are running out of that, to end this nightmare.
Great info. Thank you
Somebody eventually will get sick of all this and come forward eventually I hope!
Hope and Faith, and Standing Up. :)
If Samuel Alito wants to play politicking games, he should run for Congress with the other spineless MAGATS. Alitos thinking if very jaded. I do not see any rule or statement that the president does not have to work with those he does not like. Alito is an azz and doesn’t live in the real world and we work with others daily we may not like. Clarence Thomas is a criminal as is Kavanagh. Thomas has been taking bribes for years. He only made it there because od DEA. Gorsuch uses the court as a tool of vindication as his mother was fired from the EPA when he was a kid which adversely impacted him.Roberts knows he has messed up many times and is ultimately scared of losing control as through his lack of leadership is why Donald is even in office as he was and is ineligible as that ruling was WRONG and sheer partisan. Donald is a Russian asset and should be tried for seditious conspiracy. His regime is a joke and again, Trump, is a global laughing stock and dismal failure
Trump The Human Stain !
Him and his cult need to do a Jim Jones, go to an island and drink the Kool-aid.
Let's give them a one-way flight on an exploding SpaceX rocket.
Oh, that is PERFECT. I will help pay for the gas. Make sure Alito, Thomas, and Kavanaugh are on that flight. So many!!!
I Tell Maga's To Stop Drinking The Punch ! And Wake Up All The Time !!? - Problem Is Their Not Listening !!!..??? The Other Is You Can't Find An Island Big Enough..!!!...?? To Put Them On To Drink The Punch And Like Trump !!....The Smell..!!.?? Trump The Human Stain...!!..??
So true.
Referring to the water--it's too bad the poopy water (and make ANY clean water available to them) can be directly piped into Dump's home, muskRAT's home, the republiCRAP's homes, Big Oil Exec's homes, etc. Think they'll wake up?????
So They're, t-Rump and m-elon, aren't doing their jobs, WHY HAVENT THEY been fired?? IMPEACH HIM... he's violated NUMEROUS laws and judges rulings!! FIRE HIM....
I just don't understand for the life of me how thisDictator Criminal Buffoon Psycho A**hole and his Boyfriend, muskRAT have all this power to dismantle the entire government. Will someone please explain it to me?
They do not have the power. For example, Congress created the Department of Education, and the cheap hood and muskrat do not have power with executive orders to destroy the Department of Education. The only way to stop this cheap hood's mistaken misuse of power with executive orders is through lawsuits.
Bought and paid for, CONGRESS AND SCOTUS.
Unless they rig the election
They achieved that.
I hope they keep all lawsuits in STATE COURTS so that Trump and or Musk can't be pardoned if at all possible 🤔
We have already seen the effect of unclean water in Flint Michigan.
And, Ohio after the train wreck.
We don't get the house and senate back unless we get angry and indignant. The working class, average people need leaders who are genuine. People like Al Greene rather than Smiling Chuck Schumers. The street doesn't relate to the latter.
I love listening to you two. You break it down into something a nonlawyer can understand. You also give me hope to last the next 1,415 days.
I liked how you call this presidency an “American hostage situation”. Perfect description
Great job! I love it, it's just so wonderful and helpful!
Another excellent analysis and discussion of these current cases.
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I am suscribed and I do enjoy these podcasts. HOWEVER, I am not satisfied with my recent attempt to contact the new Popok Law Firm online. I submitted a request a week ago and have heard nothing back. Nada. Not even an acknowledgement that my request was received, though I did follow all the instructions and completed the online form correctly. This appears to be a technical problem that the owner should look into, because it doesn't bode well for business.
Legal AF is good but this particular episode is awesome. Parts of this episode should be quoted far and wide to give all of us hope. Most principled Americans would agree to pay your bills for completed work.
Great Stuff !! As Always Mike ! I wonder 🤔 Who's More Un Qualified ? Justice Alito ? Or Cannon ? 🤔 So I'm On Forb's News ! And This Person ! Makes A Comment ! About The National Debt !!? In Reference To Federal Jobs !? Person States " I Would Gladly Work A Government Job For Mr. President Trump For $150,000 - $200,000 A Year !! " I Had To Remind The Person That Most Federal Government Jobs Are Between $45,000.- $65,000. Dollars A Year !! Then I Really Went Off About 3 Paragraphs ! 😂 On The Subject !!? I Think Forbes Is Using Some A.I. Program !!? Which Edited My Remarks Into !? A Total Of 5 Sentences !!? Which Completely Changed What I Said To This Person !!? Anyway I Think The New Trumpism Narrative !!! Is Telling Maga Followers That A 35 Trillion Dollar National Debt Is Somehow Related To What We Spend Running The Government !!! 🤔🤔 These People Are Grossly Being Lied To !!? And One Doesn't Have Anything To Do With The Other !!? Well !? Maybe ! A Very Small Part !!?
Michael and Karen, listen to Heather Cox Richardson's "LETTERS FROM AN AMERICAN" 3/5 2025.
Thank you for this breakdown. Your both looking fabulous, btw.
Question
If FFOTUS lost at the Supreme Court regards g the USAID
Why does it have to go back down to a lower court?
Isn’t the Supreme Court the final word?
They sent it back to the original judge, sticking with their decision, but still giving tRump leeway on the time factor. tRump loves more time. Look what he destroys in 24 hours. Still a surprise They didn't rule for tRump.
Why is my reply button dead? I can't comment on tRump, WTF is the 1st Amendment, online!!!!!?????
Dan If The Person Or Creator ! Is Paid Subscription And You Are Not ! You Not Be Able To Respond ? But You may on Another Platform ?
Mr. Reich
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F off!
F-off !! What's That in Regards To ?
Dart or Heart Hustler???💔
Will the latest rulings against the Trump administration with regards to monies already appropriated by Congress must be released apply to funds already appropriated for Ukraine?
Judges and attorneys playing pussy-foot with Trump's delays and half-ass answers ends up with Trump winning. Judges and attorneys have to put their FOOT-DOWN.
Trump administration is now gearing up to revoke the legal status for hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian refugees, not Illegal immigrants, that Biden gave legal right for them to be here. Does anyone need anymore proof of the CRUEL gene Donald has AND all of his MAGA followers have who would let this happen to a country
You're Talking About A Guy & His Wife Who Brought Over Eastern European's ..!!..? Mason's & Construction Workers !!? To Work And Make That Beautiful Lobby In Trump Tower !!? And Instead Of Paying Them !! He Called INS !! And Them Deported !!? At Our Government's Expense !! And No He Didn't Pay A Dime For First Rate Work..!!..??? Trump The Human Stain !!!
Despicable !! Isn't It ?? While Were On The Subject Has Anyone Been To The Panamanian Jungle !!? Lately To Check On TRUMP'S Deportees ..!!..??? See How Their Being Treated ??? Or Weather They Should Even Be There ??? They Aren't From Panama !!!?
Absolutely disgusting. Another Putin approach.
I love the darts story! :)
Alissa Slotkin is not the future of the Democratic Party.
She confirmed eight cabinet members, and she voted in favor of the Lakin Riley act.
The truth will set you free!
I wonder when they'll put Religion and Political Party designations are back on job applications...
If it's up to SCOTUS, we may as well celebrate our new President Putin. Boo.
Alito deserves to be served a shit cocktail!
Did I really see that a dissenting Supreme Court judge said that the US meeting contractual obligations was depriving US citizens of 2B$? Is he suggesting that money counts more to the US than honoring contracts? That figures. Lex Americana!
Will Meidas please promote the protest in WA DC on March 14? NowMarch.org
I watched the whole thing even though the longer that the speech went on the mader I got.
Drop off Water with shit in it to the white house
Great video, but most people don't have 10 hours per day to watch video. Too mush chit chat.
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I’m sick and tired of listening to all the Republicans lie in cow talk to this traitor both Trump advance our traders and so is Mike Johnson any other republican that follows Trump our traders as well every single one of them need to be voted out of office and our democracy, my father fought for this country and thankfully he came home, but he would do it all over if he had to protect democracy, stand up America protest do whatever it is you can to stand up for democracy if we don’t who will
Where can one send a check?
Thank you for all that you do!
Whoever is in charge of our constitutional plaque that is covered by glass should not let this out of their site and not bring it into Donald Trump's office. Who knows what the hell he do to that declaration the original one. Trump wants to show it in his office give him a copy. Don't let the original get upstairs to him in his office !! my God you don't know what that man's gonna do to that declaration especially the original one no no no no no no please don't do that. Give him a copy a paper copy that's in one of the stores And just tack it up there so everybody can see it.
ELON IS NOT VETTED & BROUGHT UP TO CONGRESS!!
Why DID IT TAKE SO LONG FOR THIS TO COME UP LEGALLY??? This should have been LEGALLY NOTICED THE FIRST DAY ACCORDING TO OUR CONSTITUTION???? THEN THESE PEOPLE WHO GOT FIRED WOULD STILL HAVE JOBS!!
WHY ISN'T ELON STOPPED NOW!!!
Let the supreme court DRINK THE FIRST GLASS!!! What a thing to bring up ti a court???!!! Appalling!!!
My husband, a lifelong Republican, quiet, unassuming, fired off letters to our Senators and Congresspersons, condemning them for their acquiesence to donald j. trump. Reminding them of what the Conservative, Republican Party stands for, reminding them that this total loyalty to trump/musk Presidency and to Putin, and not our Country and Constitution, is not patriotism. Telling them to stand up to the bully, stand up for democracy. The Republican Party is dying a death of traitors, and this current administration, with the backing of the entire GOP, is shoveling the last of the dirt over the proverbial Republican Coffin.
It's an abomination that we can't get rid of the dirty judges on the Supreme Court.
Is it not possible that the reason trump wants his case moved to federal court is so he can pardon himself?
He has ignored previous ruling how will this be enforced?
How can MUSKRAT BE STILL IN A CLASSIFIED BUILDING WHY ISNT HE PULLED OUT AND THROWN IN A JAIL????
I’m so confused and furious!
Victories in court are great, but when will enforcement begin? And how? Isn't it time already for the rule of law to show some effects?
Good positioning for the mid-terms won't matter much if we can't keep Trump from cancelling them.
Dart player here. Former league player, Eugene OR. Spotted the dartboard yesterday and wanted to know... (a few of us weren't bored). Thank you!
That don’t expect to have another election. Remember he said,” Vote for me and you won’t have to ever vote again”
Excellent episode
This is a diss track abou frump & the muskrat
https://youtu.be/l3t0D7fYuhc?si=l2hr5cMcD7pxxrZc
Just curious - How many national "leaders" read The Emperor Has No Clothes? If so, did they understand it?
They don't expect a democrat to win again, he said Americans voted for the last time. And, he's no longer running a democratic country, it's a dictatorship. And, this dictator won't allow elections in 4 years, unless he can be re-elected.
Well stated. This is my first podcast and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Keep sharing the wise words.
SCOTUS should be forced to publicly drink water with the “allowable amount of sewage”
Musk sent death threats to judges who went against him and trump..
So does that permit ruling apply to all permits for anything?
Polio is going to surge if we don't have clean water, and then de-value vaccines.
Thanks for this! Love your analysis, and remarkable insights!
I am Canadian and very concerned for what you as our closest friend and ally are going through.
For the upcoming midterm elections, is there any glimmer of hope for change? Are there a meaningful number of Republicans up for reelection that could face real challenges?
Re water - wasn’t the factual scenario releasing water, and not into the drinking supply? If so, then saying SF/CA doesn’t care abt poop in water makes you sound disingenuous, causes me to doubt your other reporting, and probably reinforces the idea on the right that the left is full of hysterical, mendacious fabulists.
thank you!!!
Popok ... what's your favorite dart game 301/501 or cricket?
that has helped us keep safe and Europe??
I don't have the time to listen to podcasts... But I read fast and would love to get transcriptions of the Legal related material.... Is that possible?
I usually prefer reading but this podcast is delightful to hear
Absolutely!
Expertly unqualified. 😆
Yo Vic! Whachoodoin'?
Hi Karen, agreed! Trump is all about 'his perception' of how he believeshe is viewed. It's an extreme delusional perception albeit.
Your dart game? Really?
I love yours and Karens coverage in insight! Is it possible to stop the reflection of her screen that appears on her glasses? Thanks
I miss the hat in the background!
So, what I want to know... what do you sing in your barbershop group? Tenor? Baritone?