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Patrice La Belle, M.D.'s avatar

Schumer didn't cave. With no budget, Trump would not only have immediately closed agencies completely and destroyed them so they could not be reopened, he would have closed most of the judiciary that has been trying to keep him in check. Schumer kept the agencies and the judiciary alive. We need the judiciary to fight his unlawful and unconstititional acts.

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Susan Miller's avatar

But he would have OWNED it

Now he has permission

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EUWDTB's avatar

How does that matter?

Yes, when Trump effectively installs a dictatorship he'd own it. That's exactly what he WANTS, you see? These people ideologically REJECT democracy and want to install a dictatorship, and they've been mapping it all out, step by step, over the last four years.

No CR means giving them literally what they want. With a CR, they'll still continue to destroy agencies but it will remain illegal to do so, so we'll continue to win in court.

Remember, fighting for democracy is not the same at all as fighting for this or that policy. If we allow Trump to destroy US democracy it will take DECADES to rebuild it. What good will it do to let him "own it" if for decades, we have to live under a totalitarian regime and neofascists see their dream come through... ?

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Patrice La Belle, M.D.'s avatar

He would have had even more power to destroy the government if the funding bill didn't pass. Even this horrible bill was better than letting him destroy agencies and the judiciary.

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Kenneth John Jr.'s avatar

Helllloooooo McFlyyyyyy!! You been sleeping the past 10 years! Rump & Musk & MAGA SCOTUS HAVE ALEADY DONE THE DESTRUCTION ALONG WITH THE AMERICAN IDIOTS THAT VOTED THESE CRIMINAL FUCKS BACK INTO OFFICE...WE ARE IN FIGHT MODE NOW.

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Patrice La Belle, M.D.'s avatar

We need to fight smart, not give in to emotional reactions. Protests could give Trump an excuse to impose martial law and turn America into a police state. We need to demand of every single member of Congress that their constituents want them to impeach Trump and return the government to a government for the people, not for just Trump and his oligarchy. We need them to insure that Trump and all future Presidents are bound by the laws of the people as passed by Congress.

We need to call, email and even hand deliver thousands of letters to the local offices of every single Representative and Senator calling for Trump’s removal for his unlawful and unconstitutional acts that have harmed Americans and our allies.

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M Lynch's avatar

Agree.

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Darlene knowles's avatar

The law isn't working ..there is no law anymore.. only against the poor needy and Fatherless.. it's called pure Evil inflicted on their Real Working classes that made this once 1 time rich country.. becoming A Third World Country!

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Vbob's avatar

We are NOT there yet and we the people must stop this. Trust me, we are not there yet. My fam fled authoritarians. This is still stage one. When the economy is horrible (were getting there) they will really go for the power grab. Its good the gov didnt shut down. BE STRATEGIC. Meidas was wrong. I love them but they were wrong on this one.

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Darlene knowles's avatar

We need to just J6 and take our house back like the Forefathers said ... Hello

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Patrice La Belle, M.D.'s avatar

That depends on how it is framed by their preferred media. Many people unfortunately cheer for his cruelty. You are absolutely correct that this is not business as usual. This is a "soft coup."

Any physical revolt, or even a peaceful protest could be used as an excuse for Trump to declare martial law or invoke the Alien and Sedition Acts. Putting pressure on Congress by letting them know that they are losing the votes of their constituents by supporting Trump's unlawful acts may encourage them to impeach him. However, that would leave Vance who is just as corrupt and transactional, and probably smarter.

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Paul Bourdon's avatar

Yes! impeachment of Trump [for a third time] is a nice fantasy but it leaves musk and Peter Theil in charge!

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Viki's avatar

Oh there’s a great scenario. Yep-it’s not just Trump. We must also recognize that.

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Vbob's avatar

Schumer was actually right to do this. IMAGINE if the gov was entirely shut down right now. They would have accelerated their authoritarian grab, dems blames for shutting down the gov, everyone fired, no Repubs able to vote against (finally) the tariffs. Let them own this CR

This is why we can't miss the forest for the trees. And yes OF COURSE the CR is horrible, but we need to be strategic for the moment we are in. Having closed the gov right now would have accelerated the authoritarian takeover. I work in healthcare so trust me, the CR is HORRIFIC. The alternative is a literal nightmare and a good way for them to start stage 2 of the authoritarian insanity. SLOW IT DOWN HOWEVER YOU CAN. They will screw up no matter what. Look at the economy and all the CR pushback. DONT hand them a gift by closing the gov. WE NEED TO IMMEDIATELY STOP THEM BEFORE it gets worse. AT LEASE Repubs in the house now have some pressure.

I love Meidas but they were wrong here.

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