Oh, so your idea is to try to fight back in the most irrational way possible? With friends like that...
And again, this is not an "increasingly authoritarian government". Read Project 2025, read Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts' latest book, read Peter Thiel (who bankrolled Vance's career) or listen to Steve Bannon: they all WA…
Oh, so your idea is to try to fight back in the most irrational way possible? With friends like that...
And again, this is not an "increasingly authoritarian government". Read Project 2025, read Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts' latest book, read Peter Thiel (who bankrolled Vance's career) or listen to Steve Bannon: they all WANT a fascist America, they also want to destroy all democracies all over the world, they agree with Putin's palace ideologue Alexander Dugin that democracy is bad and dictatorship good, and they have carefully mapped out how to install a dictatorship in the US. This government is 100% authoritarian. It's full of neofascists who know very well what they're doing, why, and how to do it.
So again, if you believe that we should HELP them do so by shutting down the government ourselves, how will that somehow help us fight back AGAINST neofascism? Any idea?
"You cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth." --Winston Churchill.
It's about time Democrats stopped trying to be reasonable and 'work with' republicans.' These people have zero interest in any of that. They'd gladly burn it all down, as Steve Bannon has repeatedly said.
Democrats owe these MAGA republicans no help. They don't need any Democratic votes to pass this CR, and they shouldn't get any. Voting for it is complicity in the damage they're causing. It's time to have a back bone.
If the government shuts down, it's THEIR doing. We've covered for them long enough. So long, in fact, they've come to count on it. It's time we disabused them of that notion. But that takes people who are willing to fight back, not ones who keep doing the same thing over and over. Tell me, how much 'credit' did Democrats get for 'keeping the government open' ANY of the times we bailed the republicans out? ZERO. Some people just never learn.
yes,the first and most important one is to stand united against the regime.And that just does not work by caving to the wannabe dictator.Your arguments are reasonable, but to show weakness to the schoolyard bully right now while dividing the resistance is the thing the fascist dream of.Just look what the fascist cult leader posted after the vote.He endorsed the 10 !! Makes me throw up.
I am reluctantly seeing your point. I’ve been trying to research this so I understand the process better. If you have something for me to read I would appreciate it. I think I’m an informed citizen but the actions of this day have been a roller coaster and one I am seriously trying to understand.
Same here! I think of a government shutdown as it stopping them from dismantling the government but is that true? If they get to continue dismantling with no one in the agencies there to resist then that would seem worse than the intolerable situation now!
Oh, so your idea is to try to fight back in the most irrational way possible? With friends like that...
And again, this is not an "increasingly authoritarian government". Read Project 2025, read Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts' latest book, read Peter Thiel (who bankrolled Vance's career) or listen to Steve Bannon: they all WANT a fascist America, they also want to destroy all democracies all over the world, they agree with Putin's palace ideologue Alexander Dugin that democracy is bad and dictatorship good, and they have carefully mapped out how to install a dictatorship in the US. This government is 100% authoritarian. It's full of neofascists who know very well what they're doing, why, and how to do it.
So again, if you believe that we should HELP them do so by shutting down the government ourselves, how will that somehow help us fight back AGAINST neofascism? Any idea?
"You cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth." --Winston Churchill.
It's about time Democrats stopped trying to be reasonable and 'work with' republicans.' These people have zero interest in any of that. They'd gladly burn it all down, as Steve Bannon has repeatedly said.
Democrats owe these MAGA republicans no help. They don't need any Democratic votes to pass this CR, and they shouldn't get any. Voting for it is complicity in the damage they're causing. It's time to have a back bone.
If the government shuts down, it's THEIR doing. We've covered for them long enough. So long, in fact, they've come to count on it. It's time we disabused them of that notion. But that takes people who are willing to fight back, not ones who keep doing the same thing over and over. Tell me, how much 'credit' did Democrats get for 'keeping the government open' ANY of the times we bailed the republicans out? ZERO. Some people just never learn.
yes,the first and most important one is to stand united against the regime.And that just does not work by caving to the wannabe dictator.Your arguments are reasonable, but to show weakness to the schoolyard bully right now while dividing the resistance is the thing the fascist dream of.Just look what the fascist cult leader posted after the vote.He endorsed the 10 !! Makes me throw up.
I am reluctantly seeing your point. I’ve been trying to research this so I understand the process better. If you have something for me to read I would appreciate it. I think I’m an informed citizen but the actions of this day have been a roller coaster and one I am seriously trying to understand.
Same here! I think of a government shutdown as it stopping them from dismantling the government but is that true? If they get to continue dismantling with no one in the agencies there to resist then that would seem worse than the intolerable situation now!