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Molly's pet's avatar

Democrats don't seem to have any spine, moxy, or pride. No, they have abandoned most of their most loyal constituents.

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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

How can you say that when they get the job done? Americans are so focused on. the negative, they can't see the positive when it is handed to them. If you need "In Your Face" messaging, so be it. But the limited attention span of the American public militates against discourse. Billboards might work. "The Affordable Care Act works for you thanks to the Democratic Party - Pass it on!" There! First Billboard message, gratis :-) Go get 'em tiger.

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Natalie Harless's avatar

Wasn't Donny "in your face" MORE? Yeah he IS,will be. Who believes him? Those that voted him back in. You tell me why.

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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

Well, that is a difficult question, since things like medical care show up in everyday life. It isn't magic. Somebody put it in place and makes it work. If Americans cannot see that, then perhaps we ought to let Trump take it away because if you do not appreciate what you have, you really don't need it, do you? Who needs healthcare? After all you are going to die anyway. Why wait?

It is not that Americans' aren't smart, we aren't grateful for the hard work people in government do for us. And we are about to lose it.

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Lois's avatar

I don't know if you were serious but some people have to learn the hard way. These people are so intent on blaming the Dems for everything and thinking Trump is their savior that perhaps it's time to let them see the reality. Because they forgot what it was like last time and this time is going to be a lot worse

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MrsCQ's avatar

Those that voted him back in like Trump. They LIKE what he is about. Oh they say it's the economy, the price of eggs, whatever. Funny, when their life was on the line during Covid, then SOME of them voted for Biden or stayed home. The key is to get OUR base to care enough to vote. JMO

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Lois's avatar

They didn't vote because the Democrats weren't getting their message across and they started to believe the maga lies. Not enough to vote for trump but enough not to vote for Harris. Their lack of hammering home the truth - what they accomplished and what the Republicans didn't accomplish was one of the things responsible for their loss.

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MrsCQ's avatar

Agree. A lot of people like a bandwagon. They are either getting on one, getting off one or staying on one. The Democrats need to stop chasing after MSM approval and the Trump voter that for some reason only seems to hang out in diners.

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Molly's pet's avatar

They seem over the past 29 yrs. to spend more time catering to their corporate donors, modifying positions they held since FDR. Bill Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, and who benefited? Big banks and more. I am 71, and I lived in this country since birth. I watched my Democratic party devolve into a band of corporate types and a millionaires' club. You, sir, may not agree but don't chastise others who witnessed it. I happen to love my country. Do you? Good evening, goodnight, and good luck.

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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

I do or this whole business would not be keeping me up at night. I am nearly 78 and it bugs the shit out of me.

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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

For 350 plus million to learn the hard way is like a very sad way to learn a lesson. "Stupid is as stupid does" Pretty harsh. Like being under bombardment in Ukraine and then saying "There, how do you like that?" But then, this is not the first time this country has been at odds with itself. We might survive. In the history of nations that is not always guaranteed. How badly do we want a functioning democracy and society? A new constitution?

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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

Enough has changed in the world, a new constitution might be a good idea. We have the right if we choose to take it. And we would have to take it - only 10 percent of the original colonists thought separation from England was a good idea. We did it once before. History does repeat itself in positive ways as well.

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MrsCQ's avatar

I do not agree that the Democrats have abandoned most of their most loyal constituents. Wait, do you work for the NYT?

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Natalie Harless's avatar

Who, ME? Not me! Just a commenter here!

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MrsCQ's avatar

Sorry. It was snark and not directed at you. Friends? ЁЯТЩ

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Kathy Leonard's avatar

No! Thay have class. That's why. Democrats are above the whining magas

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Molly's pet's avatar

Sorry, Bill Clinton repealed Glass-Steagall and that was when Democrats appealed to big banks and corporate donors. You may not like this, but it is true. I am with Bernie.

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Kathy Leonard's avatar

No! Thay have class. That's why. Democrats are above the whining magas

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Kathy Leonard's avatar

Ooh, I said that twice. It must be true

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