Don't you think that we should be engaging with him now? So that the reporting about him is done from the first person and not bases on what fox news says? Maybe I'm confused but it seems to me that they are doing the hard thing.
Don't you think that we should be engaging with him now? So that the reporting about him is done from the first person and not bases on what fox news says? Maybe I'm confused but it seems to me that they are doing the hard thing.
You will never get fair reporting from either cable news network. CNN, Fox, and MSNBC have been bought by right wing owners. Better turn to independent journalist, like substack.
The media, especially the NYT, and others are baked in misogyny. It drips off their journalist's fingertips onto the pages. They need to make their billionaire neoliberal oligarch owners happy.
Yes, told go to the dragon's lair at Mara Largo or you're fired! See what they chose, they have 0 integrity. Not a shred of integrity between them! Cowards, they are!
Not so. Do you think the "evil liberal deep state media" makes this shit up? Exposing his lunacy, fascism, lying, corruption, philandering, PREJUDICE, GREED, treason, hatred, vitriol and all then rest by reporting ON WHAT COMES OUT OF HIS MOUTH, HIS VERY OWN MOUTH, is a lot closer to journalism than the bullshit drumbeating Fox puts out there.
They can report without literally going to his house to beg him to play nice. After all he's done? We shouldn't compromise on taking people's rights away or the criminal and politically motivated circumvention of justice he has perpetrated. You compromise on tax brackets, budget items, not whether we should give the dictator more air time on our show so our network can profit. What they did was morally wrong and they border on complicity.
They don't need to go to MaraLardo. They need to report the news. No spin. No MAGA bullshit. If Dump talks about using the military to wipe out his political enemies, you report Dump will use the military to wipe out his enemies. You know, report exactly what he says. msm won't do that. Fvck them. I am a 71yo woman. I watched Dan Rather, etc. Even Huntley-Brinkley as a kid because my dad watched them. They reported news. They were journalists, not ass kissers. Last time I watched Fox was shock and awe and WMDs. Now it's just Meidas and a few other indies here and on BlueSky. That's enough.
Madam, what you just wrote was very ill-informed. I see the possible morality in what you are saying, however, this has nothing to do with "reporting". This was solely to bend the knee to the new Emperor, and even in doing so does not guarantee that Comcast will be left alone, and knowing that the former "Morning Joe" audience will now leave them, it's not likely Mika and Joe will be highly paid in the near future.
I feel badly (at least at the moment) for all of the talent that still works for or are regular contributors to MSNBC: If they stay, they are fools, but if they leave, where can they go?
Better to leave with your integrity and moral compass intact. It didn't work out too well for the "talent" that clung to AH in the 1930's and 1940's. Those folks went down in history as traitors. Joe and Mika are pathetic, no other words for what they did to save their own skin and lucretive jobs.
The facts are that they traveled to Mar a Lago, that they made nice with trump, and that trump has previously threatened to pull their FCC license. How can you say we donтАЩt have FACTS?
You know what? I didnтАЩt see that in these posts. Some either I missed it, entirely possible, or someone might have referenced it. In a, you know, nice way.
When I first saw a clip of this earlier today, my reaction was..let me think about this. I've come to this conclusion: If Joe and Mika think of themselves as part of the media (which they are), then it would be fine to do an interview with him. But that's not what they did. Instead, they went there at a personal level. No camera, no recording, no telling their audience what was really said, and probably not really any questions, especially any hard questions. That tells me they were trying to stay off his "enemies list."
No, they aren't doing the hard thing. They are doing the cowardly thing. Shame on them for not doing their jobs.
Trump doesnтАЩt grant interviews that wonтАЩt be favorable to him. Also, why go to Mar-a-Lago? Do you think they visit the homes of any other President elect?
Sucking up to and normalizing insanity is not what we need. The hard thing they are doing is saving their job. LetтАЩs see how that works out with no viewers.
Oh you are so right! The blabber on Joe and Mika.was mind numbing! That was the purpose! I was constantly putting them on mute, the few times I watched the Morning Joe Show. Sometimes the guests were good. They had some other Hosts, I appreciated. But Joe was forever talking over people, especially Mika. Joe has issues. Not surprised they scurried to Mara Largo this quickly to kiss TFG's....! They betrayed everything they said they stood for; and, they can not erase that stain.
In the before times, maybe you would have a good point. However, since Trump attacked them both on a very personal level("Mika is ugly and stupid," "Joe is a murderer," etc.) and the fact that they know he is a liar and wants to be a dictator, why in the world would you even do this? Do they think he is going to start telling the truth all of a sudden? Actually, they just want the eyeballs on their program (ratings) when talking about the shit show.
I disagree with you. If you want to hear TrumpтАЩs own words, just listen to Fox News. HeтАЩs a frequent guest on most shows, and they publish his words daily. Or read his frequent truth social posts, which are reported by Meidas and many other independents.
Don't you think that we should be engaging with him now? So that the reporting about him is done from the first person and not bases on what fox news says? Maybe I'm confused but it seems to me that they are doing the hard thing.
You will never get fair reporting from either cable news network. CNN, Fox, and MSNBC have been bought by right wing owners. Better turn to independent journalist, like substack.
The media, especially the NYT, and others are baked in misogyny. It drips off their journalist's fingertips onto the pages. They need to make their billionaire neoliberal oligarch owners happy.
So do you think they were armtwisted by MSNBC to do this?
I think so. I would have quit first
Yes, told go to the dragon's lair at Mara Largo or you're fired! See what they chose, they have 0 integrity. Not a shred of integrity between them! Cowards, they are!
Yep.
Well, maybe they'll quit anyway- they'll probably end up happier if they do though. Also kind of sad & ironic
Yes. I do.
Absolutely
Not so. Do you think the "evil liberal deep state media" makes this shit up? Exposing his lunacy, fascism, lying, corruption, philandering, PREJUDICE, GREED, treason, hatred, vitriol and all then rest by reporting ON WHAT COMES OUT OF HIS MOUTH, HIS VERY OWN MOUTH, is a lot closer to journalism than the bullshit drumbeating Fox puts out there.
They can report without literally going to his house to beg him to play nice. After all he's done? We shouldn't compromise on taking people's rights away or the criminal and politically motivated circumvention of justice he has perpetrated. You compromise on tax brackets, budget items, not whether we should give the dictator more air time on our show so our network can profit. What they did was morally wrong and they border on complicity.
They don't need to go to MaraLardo. They need to report the news. No spin. No MAGA bullshit. If Dump talks about using the military to wipe out his political enemies, you report Dump will use the military to wipe out his enemies. You know, report exactly what he says. msm won't do that. Fvck them. I am a 71yo woman. I watched Dan Rather, etc. Even Huntley-Brinkley as a kid because my dad watched them. They reported news. They were journalists, not ass kissers. Last time I watched Fox was shock and awe and WMDs. Now it's just Meidas and a few other indies here and on BlueSky. That's enough.
They are complicit; and, need to be held to account. Betrayal is an ugly thing! Mika and Joe have no courage, they folded like empty suits!!
I agree.
Me too. 72 and ready to march!
Madam, what you just wrote was very ill-informed. I see the possible morality in what you are saying, however, this has nothing to do with "reporting". This was solely to bend the knee to the new Emperor, and even in doing so does not guarantee that Comcast will be left alone, and knowing that the former "Morning Joe" audience will now leave them, it's not likely Mika and Joe will be highly paid in the near future.
I feel badly (at least at the moment) for all of the talent that still works for or are regular contributors to MSNBC: If they stay, they are fools, but if they leave, where can they go?
Better to leave with your integrity and moral compass intact. It didn't work out too well for the "talent" that clung to AH in the 1930's and 1940's. Those folks went down in history as traitors. Joe and Mika are pathetic, no other words for what they did to save their own skin and lucretive jobs.
I clearly don't know enough, and should not be commenting.
That's not true. You SHOULD comment.
Keeping to oneself when talking about this sort of thing is how MAGA won.
IтАЩm not sure anyone making comments here knows enough. Seems to be a lot of opinion, not a lot of irrefutable fact.
Anything wrong with expressing our opinions? Do we still have that freedom?
Some people don't think so. Too hell with that. I will be expressing my opinion!ЁЯШО
Good
She said she didnтАЩt know enough. To me, knowledge is about facts. Opine all you want. Jeez.
The facts are that they traveled to Mar a Lago, that they made nice with trump, and that trump has previously threatened to pull their FCC license. How can you say we donтАЩt have FACTS?
You know what? I didnтАЩt see that in these posts. Some either I missed it, entirely possible, or someone might have referenced it. In a, you know, nice way.
Also, if anyone wants to try to improve institutions like MSNBC instead of simply canceling them, you can send your opinion to Morning_Joe@MSNBC.com
ItтАЩs an irrefutable fact what they did and what they said, both recently and in the past. What more does one need to know to have informed opin?
Why did you?
Nope they are not. The hard thing is the real and right thing. Tell the darn truth.
When I first saw a clip of this earlier today, my reaction was..let me think about this. I've come to this conclusion: If Joe and Mika think of themselves as part of the media (which they are), then it would be fine to do an interview with him. But that's not what they did. Instead, they went there at a personal level. No camera, no recording, no telling their audience what was really said, and probably not really any questions, especially any hard questions. That tells me they were trying to stay off his "enemies list."
No, they aren't doing the hard thing. They are doing the cowardly thing. Shame on them for not doing their jobs.
Trump doesnтАЩt grant interviews that wonтАЩt be favorable to him. Also, why go to Mar-a-Lago? Do you think they visit the homes of any other President elect?
Sucking up to and normalizing insanity is not what we need. The hard thing they are doing is saving their job. LetтАЩs see how that works out with no viewers.
if they did actual reporting yes. I'm old enough to remember what that is. That is not what they were doing anyhow. It was all blabber and opinion.
Oh you are so right! The blabber on Joe and Mika.was mind numbing! That was the purpose! I was constantly putting them on mute, the few times I watched the Morning Joe Show. Sometimes the guests were good. They had some other Hosts, I appreciated. But Joe was forever talking over people, especially Mika. Joe has issues. Not surprised they scurried to Mara Largo this quickly to kiss TFG's....! They betrayed everything they said they stood for; and, they can not erase that stain.
Thats the purpose of ANY cable news, to optimize the bottom line.
Agree
Not to mention the very, very lucrative thing.
In the before times, maybe you would have a good point. However, since Trump attacked them both on a very personal level("Mika is ugly and stupid," "Joe is a murderer," etc.) and the fact that they know he is a liar and wants to be a dictator, why in the world would you even do this? Do they think he is going to start telling the truth all of a sudden? Actually, they just want the eyeballs on their program (ratings) when talking about the shit show.
They did the hard thing, but only to save their asses.
Joy unless they are going to be truthful. They canтАЩt tell it as bad as it is.
I agree
I disagree with you. If you want to hear TrumpтАЩs own words, just listen to Fox News. HeтАЩs a frequent guest on most shows, and they publish his words daily. Or read his frequent truth social posts, which are reported by Meidas and many other independents.