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Byron B. Carrier's avatar

Ditto, Sandra and Heidi. The Fourth Estate is crucial to our trying to use democracy.

He called it "fake news," and then made it faker. Cue Fox and X.

The media trounced Biden for his pathetic stumble in the debate, but went on to declare Trump the winner. I defy any intelligent person to read the entire response by Trump in that debate to the question (twice asked!) of what he'd do about the opioid crisis and conclude he won the debate. He rambled with trite slogans and never answered in any way. They both lost the debate, and we lost a fair reporting about it.

We need to justly reaffirm the value of journalists and politicians both, but because they're serving the truth. Mika and Joe can start by explaining why they went and reporting on what they encountered. Good for Meidas for calling them on it, but give them their due if they explain.

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Chuck's avatar

He didn't debate. Biden answered the questions. TRUMP DIDN'T, with one exception: when asked for THE THIRD TIME if he would accept the election results if he lost, Trump said, after having to stop and think a moment, "Absolutely. If it is a fair and honest election." Which means if he doesn't think it is fair, more insurrectionist will rain down. The rest of the time he spent deriding Biden ans spouting bullshit.

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Byron B. Carrier's avatar

He never argues intelligently. He uses insult, ridicule, and totalistic false dichomities to "weave" an answer only the gullible would take as intelligent. Sadly, it worked better than intelligent argumentation would have. The gullibles prevailed. They "think" with tribal loyalty.

The mainstream media let us down by broadcasting his stupidity as if reasonable and normative. Trying to be neutral, they betrayed their profession and us.

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TEOTWAWKI's avatar

Omg—-on the nose! How I feel.

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TEOTWAWKI's avatar

I still can’t get my mind around the legitimacy that mainstream media gives him. Yes him. Not Him.

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Reese Erwin's avatar

They explained. But I find their explanation totally inadequate. Did you see how they praised Trump on his great election, etc. according to trump, which they didn’t deny? Clearly, a trip to Mar-a-largo is kissing his ring and a- -.

The election was no doubt helped by Russia and there are many questions about it so should be some audits and recounts in swing states!

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