Dr. Vin Gupta sits down with Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove of the World Health Organization to expose the dangerous consequences of Trump’s war on global health.
First the whisper: we’re out. Then the roar: millions at risk.
Trump’s WHO exit wasn’t just a policy shift—it was a seismic crack in the code of global safety. In the middle of a pandemic, the U.S. pulled the fire alarm… and walked out of the building.
But here’s the wild part: the world is still watching, still wondering—what happens when the leader stops leading? When the lifeline gets cut, do we build new ones, or let the silence win?
This is about more than politics. It’s the adrenaline of interconnected fate. The thrilling truth that we need each other to survive.
Thank you for your excellent comments! We are at a turning point in the history of the world. As a nurse, I am usually a positive person but.....with the drastic cuts to healthcare and lifesaving services by this administration, I fear millions of innocent people are going to die from the selfish corrupt decisions by a few of heartless people.
Flash: Rep. Don Bacon, a prominent Republican and former Air Force general, has become the first GOP lawmaker to publicly call for the removal of Pete Hegseth.
So...will any Congressional Republicans stand with us on threats to public health?
I still think national security is the tie that binds. Hegseth is a dream opponent....
Meidas should be concentrating on the many Congressional Republicans who are unhappy with Trump. We need to get them to come to their senses and stand up with us. https://jerryweiss.substack.com/
As a retired nurse it's amazing how quickly people prayed for a vaccine for covid and when it happened, one stupid uneducated opinion spread like wildfire and suddenly people were saying the vaccine would kill you! I remember those refrigerated trucks turned into temporary morgues. Ignorance is rampant.
I completely agree, Cathy. How can anyone forget the trucks??? As a nurse, I'm sure you are as concerned as me. We are going to have another major medical emergency with this regime in power.
Hi, same with the threat from measles, let alone polio, TB and other communicable diseases. I am also a retired nurse and I am so frustrated by the pseudo science propaganda that is now spreading faster by the maladministration now in power. They are promoting policies based on what “feels” like the truth but not backed by scientific evidence. We are going backwards faster than I ever imagined. We are in the era governed by cruel know-nothings and soulless imbeciles.
"60 Minutes" had an informative segment last night about the bird flu epidemic. It is being passed to humans from cows, and at least one has died. What is alarming about a disease that hardly kills any people is that it will mutate. These mutations can make it more easily communicable and much more deadly! They worried about Trump's insane policies vis a vis health care and the next deadly pandemic!
I saw that, too. Very alarming. Maybe it will take Dump and his republiCRAP fans to get (not just one or two) to get it--or their family members--and die as a result. then again--like COVID--I doubt THAT will even wake them up.
My husband and I have been sick for two weeks, we haven’t been sick in five years. It’s not a coincidence that trump was President during both of these sicknesses. First covid, which trump ignored and told us wasn’t happening. We were sick before vaccines were available. Once vaccines were available we kept up with all our vaccinations and stayed healthy even though trump told us they weren’t necessary and bad. We believe in science. Now we’re no longer getting any important health updates at all and here we are sick again. Thank you MTN, Dr. Gupta and World Health Organization for keeping us informed. These podcasts are so vital & important
Our paranoid leader, pre— loaded with grievance, believes science and alliance are affronts to his limited native intelligence. Honor and integrity are for suckers. Curiosity is weakness. Truth is plastic.
His myopic decisions are destroying the country. The abandonment of the WHO and USAID leaves us defenseless against political and biological encroachment.
This is malfeasance. No one would hire this guy. Why should we?
BUT???? why did he pull out of WHO?? Made him look bad during Covid outbreak??? They didn't praise him for getting Fauci to operate the fast reaction to Covid??? Didn't kiss his ass?? THAT IS WHAT ALL THIS IS ABOUT. I did not see anything in 2025 about pulling out of WHO?
He didn't want us to "panic." The majority of America did not learn of the horrible truth until the Spring when he KNEW by at least January! It was about his relection! He actually admited this. I wish I could find where I read it. He is responsible for an incredible amount of human suffering and death! He will never be held accountable which is criminal. Amercians have no idea now detrimental this meance to society has been! Thank you again!
Because he's insane. He thinks the sheer force of his will can change reality, the weather, health, people...he thinks he's superhuman & nothing is anything other than what he alone says it is. Anything that doesn't align with that is the enemy & has to be destroyed. Especially science & facts, but ultimately everything & everyone, because despite so many going along with it, he, of course, is not superhuman. He's not even a good regular person. I wish the people that created this monster had to face the consequences without so many innocent people suffering. He does not care about anyone's health or well-being, only the delusion of his own power.
With the meatheads that Trumpo has appointed, I can't imagine how many millions and millions of US Americans would die if something similar to COVID happens again!
Omg, someone so committed to evidence based decisions, communication, & serving the public, are you kidding? The only good thing to come out of all this has been the opportunity to find out what people do & to find how committed many are to doing it well. We have had enough Fox hosts & reality show assholes until the end of time.
Trump was the cause of over a million Americans dying and his regime, his brother Putin’s regime, and China’s regime, will not share information as we have measles, bird flu, and a South African going around.
A good reason to be informed. People need to be proactive with ALL health issues. However, they need to know where to go for reliable information. That has been sorely lacking in the U.S. on many levels. Again, thank you!
I find this extremely important information and alot more safe when I hear the professionality of your guest, Maria, today. I, now have a clearer picture of why Trump and RFK, Jr. want out of WHO. No way could they understand or grasp the important role The WHO plays in keeping Americans safe and healthy, as well as the World. Forest Gump says it best-"Stupid is as stupid does".
For the health of your finances Somber Thoughts About the US Economy
While many contributors in MSM(mainstream media) and Substack authors may trivialize this comment there is a word to wise Don’t shuss away comments about the global economy You do so at your own financial peril To painfully watch the daily Orange Cheeto’s destruction of the federal government distracts us from a much graver issue at hand The US economy and its relevance in the world as its reserve currency is coming to an end with an ensuing debt crisis Failure to heed the flashing warning lights will lead to devastating consequences to investor’s portfolios globally
To see the reasoning behind such ominous warning lights see https://bit.ly/3Gk6Uhq As the boy scout motto says ”Be Prepared” Also see for video bit.ly/4cJACIT
This episode should be offered to all high schools through America as part of the Health Carriculum. Maybe the entire series, although this is the first I have seen.
Thank you, doctors! This was an excellent podcast! I think WHO has always done an amazing job with an impossible mission. As a nurse, it scares me that the general public is so naive to think that the decisions by this administration to leave healthcare organizations is not going to have a detrimental effect on this country and the whole world.
First the whisper: we’re out. Then the roar: millions at risk.
Trump’s WHO exit wasn’t just a policy shift—it was a seismic crack in the code of global safety. In the middle of a pandemic, the U.S. pulled the fire alarm… and walked out of the building.
But here’s the wild part: the world is still watching, still wondering—what happens when the leader stops leading? When the lifeline gets cut, do we build new ones, or let the silence win?
This is about more than politics. It’s the adrenaline of interconnected fate. The thrilling truth that we need each other to survive.
Do we rise, or retreat?
Your turn now. ♾️
Thank you for your excellent comments! We are at a turning point in the history of the world. As a nurse, I am usually a positive person but.....with the drastic cuts to healthcare and lifesaving services by this administration, I fear millions of innocent people are going to die from the selfish corrupt decisions by a few of heartless people.
Flash: Rep. Don Bacon, a prominent Republican and former Air Force general, has become the first GOP lawmaker to publicly call for the removal of Pete Hegseth.
How do we arm ourselves?
So...will any Congressional Republicans stand with us on threats to public health?
I still think national security is the tie that binds. Hegseth is a dream opponent....
Meidas should be concentrating on the many Congressional Republicans who are unhappy with Trump. We need to get them to come to their senses and stand up with us. https://jerryweiss.substack.com/
See Keith Olbermannn today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjUmNp4kg60&t=240s
The most important thing said by a Congressional Republican. "I am afraid."
The "humble" truth!
Absolutely! We do need each other. That is community!!
Trump is incapable of strategic thinking or seeing leadership as anything but a means to enrich or aggrandize himself.
Remember he's the best fit president to ever live..... and other lies.
As a retired nurse it's amazing how quickly people prayed for a vaccine for covid and when it happened, one stupid uneducated opinion spread like wildfire and suddenly people were saying the vaccine would kill you! I remember those refrigerated trucks turned into temporary morgues. Ignorance is rampant.
I completely agree, Cathy. How can anyone forget the trucks??? As a nurse, I'm sure you are as concerned as me. We are going to have another major medical emergency with this regime in power.
Hi, same with the threat from measles, let alone polio, TB and other communicable diseases. I am also a retired nurse and I am so frustrated by the pseudo science propaganda that is now spreading faster by the maladministration now in power. They are promoting policies based on what “feels” like the truth but not backed by scientific evidence. We are going backwards faster than I ever imagined. We are in the era governed by cruel know-nothings and soulless imbeciles.
America needs to be proactive and informed. We must be vigilant as though our lives depend on it, because IT DOES!
What's that old saying? "A lie has traveled around the world before truth has gotten its pants on."
"60 Minutes" had an informative segment last night about the bird flu epidemic. It is being passed to humans from cows, and at least one has died. What is alarming about a disease that hardly kills any people is that it will mutate. These mutations can make it more easily communicable and much more deadly! They worried about Trump's insane policies vis a vis health care and the next deadly pandemic!
I saw that, too. Very alarming. Maybe it will take Dump and his republiCRAP fans to get (not just one or two) to get it--or their family members--and die as a result. then again--like COVID--I doubt THAT will even wake them up.
I would be okay with this virus if we could figure out a way that it limits itself to only killing MAGAts
Thank you for putting this "out there!
My husband and I have been sick for two weeks, we haven’t been sick in five years. It’s not a coincidence that trump was President during both of these sicknesses. First covid, which trump ignored and told us wasn’t happening. We were sick before vaccines were available. Once vaccines were available we kept up with all our vaccinations and stayed healthy even though trump told us they weren’t necessary and bad. We believe in science. Now we’re no longer getting any important health updates at all and here we are sick again. Thank you MTN, Dr. Gupta and World Health Organization for keeping us informed. These podcasts are so vital & important
Our paranoid leader, pre— loaded with grievance, believes science and alliance are affronts to his limited native intelligence. Honor and integrity are for suckers. Curiosity is weakness. Truth is plastic.
His myopic decisions are destroying the country. The abandonment of the WHO and USAID leaves us defenseless against political and biological encroachment.
This is malfeasance. No one would hire this guy. Why should we?
BUT???? why did he pull out of WHO?? Made him look bad during Covid outbreak??? They didn't praise him for getting Fauci to operate the fast reaction to Covid??? Didn't kiss his ass?? THAT IS WHAT ALL THIS IS ABOUT. I did not see anything in 2025 about pulling out of WHO?
He didn't want us to "panic." The majority of America did not learn of the horrible truth until the Spring when he KNEW by at least January! It was about his relection! He actually admited this. I wish I could find where I read it. He is responsible for an incredible amount of human suffering and death! He will never be held accountable which is criminal. Amercians have no idea now detrimental this meance to society has been! Thank you again!
Because he's insane. He thinks the sheer force of his will can change reality, the weather, health, people...he thinks he's superhuman & nothing is anything other than what he alone says it is. Anything that doesn't align with that is the enemy & has to be destroyed. Especially science & facts, but ultimately everything & everyone, because despite so many going along with it, he, of course, is not superhuman. He's not even a good regular person. I wish the people that created this monster had to face the consequences without so many innocent people suffering. He does not care about anyone's health or well-being, only the delusion of his own power.
With the meatheads that Trumpo has appointed, I can't imagine how many millions and millions of US Americans would die if something similar to COVID happens again!
It's going to happen
I would like to submit Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove name into the box to replace RFK, Jr. when he is ousted for being a Medical Hack, any 2nd's?
Yes I Agree !
Omg, someone so committed to evidence based decisions, communication, & serving the public, are you kidding? The only good thing to come out of all this has been the opportunity to find out what people do & to find how committed many are to doing it well. We have had enough Fox hosts & reality show assholes until the end of time.
Trump was the cause of over a million Americans dying and his regime, his brother Putin’s regime, and China’s regime, will not share information as we have measles, bird flu, and a South African going around.
A good reason to be informed. People need to be proactive with ALL health issues. However, they need to know where to go for reliable information. That has been sorely lacking in the U.S. on many levels. Again, thank you!
I find this extremely important information and alot more safe when I hear the professionality of your guest, Maria, today. I, now have a clearer picture of why Trump and RFK, Jr. want out of WHO. No way could they understand or grasp the important role The WHO plays in keeping Americans safe and healthy, as well as the World. Forest Gump says it best-"Stupid is as stupid does".
And it will happen again and if we r depending on RFK, good luck!!!
For the health of your finances Somber Thoughts About the US Economy
While many contributors in MSM(mainstream media) and Substack authors may trivialize this comment there is a word to wise Don’t shuss away comments about the global economy You do so at your own financial peril To painfully watch the daily Orange Cheeto’s destruction of the federal government distracts us from a much graver issue at hand The US economy and its relevance in the world as its reserve currency is coming to an end with an ensuing debt crisis Failure to heed the flashing warning lights will lead to devastating consequences to investor’s portfolios globally
To see the reasoning behind such ominous warning lights see https://bit.ly/3Gk6Uhq As the boy scout motto says ”Be Prepared” Also see for video bit.ly/4cJACIT
You said truth.
thanks spread the word to help your friends neighbors and community
We all need to be proactive. So grateful for this work!
This episode should be offered to all high schools through America as part of the Health Carriculum. Maybe the entire series, although this is the first I have seen.
Thank you for this important information!
Thank you, doctors! This was an excellent podcast! I think WHO has always done an amazing job with an impossible mission. As a nurse, it scares me that the general public is so naive to think that the decisions by this administration to leave healthcare organizations is not going to have a detrimental effect on this country and the whole world.