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PeopleOverProfit90's avatar

What do you mean the ways that matter? He’s a rich rapist just like Trump. he’s a narcissist, addicted to himself, just like Trump. Everything‘s about Andrew Cuomo just like everything is about Trump. He’s just like Trump in all the ways that do matter. It doesn’t matter if he has an R or a D after his name if he’s irreparably broken as a human being just like Trump.

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NiaSky's avatar

I'm not supporting Cuomos for what he did, but was it rape or sexually assault? Both are horrendous and disgustingly wrong, but It's a big difference. Trump was accused of rape, but the jury was split and didn't charge him with the most serious degree of rape, but rather sexual abuse. I think @tiffany Rae is saying Cuomo isn't trying to end our democracy or constitution and turn this country into a Racist Christian Nationalist country. Whereas Trump is.

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PeopleOverProfit90's avatar

Does it really matter if it was rape or sexual assault? It was the assaults of 13 women and he then tried to destroy their lives. This was only a couple of years ago. It’s not like it’s an ancient history. Trump could not be charged criminally with the rape because of the statute of limitations, not because he didn’t do it. So that means that the jury was only a civil one, meaning he was never going to serve any jail time, even though he was found guilty of sexual abuse, the judge said he raped her. Andrew Cuomo will 100% collaborate with the Trump regime on these deportations and these horrific abuse on human rights. Mark my words, if he wins, he will be just as bad as Adam. Because he is just as corrupt as Adams. He is seriously funded by the same billionaires that fund Trump, why would you think he’s any different. Why would they spend their money on him if he is any different? He’s just a more palatable, narcissistic misogynistic prick.. maybe he’s not a Christian nationalist, but that doesn’t mean he’s not insanely dangerous. Why would you vote for him when you have much better options like Zohran?

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Karen Giorella's avatar

Well said. It's time these behaviors were shameful again. Not to the women they victimized. To the men who think nothing of it. Time for men to realize they can't traumatize their victims over and over. And get away with it. No means no!!! I love that E Jean had the help and support of good people around her. Too many of us end up self destructive or dead. I'll be happy with the world when we never have to say "me too" ever again as a society. For now I'll be happy if perps aren't in the position to make laws for us with sexual assault in their history. That's just bull shit.

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PeopleOverProfit90's avatar

Girl, that was music to my eyes. Seriously, it is so sickening seeing other women so ready to be rape. and SA apologists for powerful men.. without a thought for their victims, who by the way are revictimized every time they have to see their rapist on television. it’s weird AF.. like can we please just stand with other women, especially when they have credible claims and ridiculously powerful RAPISTS..

You are so right, if E. Jean didn’t have the support that she did around her, she probably would’ve never brought the claim. She has basically said as much herself about the strong women around her. We need to stand together like the suffragettes did, not vote for our own oppression. This man just resigned office like yesterday in disgrace, and you have women ready and willing to vote for him again. 🤯 they have to wake up. Being a sexual abuser of any kind has to be disqualifying if we are gonna be any kind of reasonable society.

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Roberta Houle's avatar

NiaSky. I’m not sure about your laws in the US, but in Canada, it’s called sexual assault, and rape falls under that. There is no big difference under the law, which in fact changed the word rape to sexual assault. Rape is no longer used under the law. They have replaced it with sexual assault and of course examine the testimony. Of course there are many acts that also fall under the umbrella of sexual assault. And the law addresses them separately. Just because someone wasn’t raped, doesn’t mean that the assault wasn’t traumatic, physically injurious or life changing.

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NiaSky's avatar

I have already explained the different level of degrees in my comment, and I also commented that i'm not condoning it or supporing Cuomo, because I have no horse in this race since i'm across the Hudson River in New Jersey. I've asked her to clarify which one was it because yes, there's a different level of severity of consequences between the two

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Roberta Houle's avatar

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Actually your words are “Both are horrendous and disgustingly wrong, but it’s a big difference. I'm not supporting Cuomofor what he did, but was it rape or sexually assault?” What? Did I cross into a different dimension?

You say “I have already explained the different level of degrees in my comment.”

Actually you didn’t explain “the different level of degrees” in your comment. You commented that one was worse than the other, and that it’s a big difference. Well, it’s not. Whatever you believe, some kind of deal was made so he was charged ‘only’ with sexual assault. The fact that you’re attempting with your words to justify lessening the initial charges, just because the jury was split, what he put those women through, is kind of disheartening. Just because they changed the charges, that doesn’t mean he didn’t rape women. Either Trump or Cuomo.

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NiaSky's avatar

Sir, I could give a rat's a**, your opinion of what you think. I said, what I said, and I stand by it! If you don't like it Move the f*** along.

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Roberta Houle's avatar

You have yourself a great day now, Sir.

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PeopleOverProfit90's avatar

Are you saying you are a Cuomo supporter or you are not one?

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NiaSky's avatar

I'm from New Jersey, so I'm not a New Yorker, so I wouldn't support him either way because I have no self interest invest. I'm explaining to you, what her comment could have meant. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions and thoughts that can be different from your's, and you shouldn't shame them for it as if they're wrong and your right

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PeopleOverProfit90's avatar

And just because anyone’s entitled to their own opinion, doesn’t mean that those people can’t be held accountable for the opinions they hold. I don’t need you to explain independent thought to me, but just as they are entitled to their opinions and entitled to post about them, so am I.

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PeopleOverProfit90's avatar

I’m not shaming anybody I’m laying out why Cuomo is a terrible candidate. If you think that me laying it out is shaming, maybe you’re ashamed of your own politics.

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EileenOR's avatar

Or, perhaps it's because your intent is to intimidate and shame? Interesting how "projection" works, and not just for Trump. We all "project" to some degree, so the task is to recognize it and take a look at what our projections inform us about ourselves, which takes the ability, and humility, to self-reflect.

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PeopleOverProfit90's avatar

I am allowed just as everyone else is to comment on others stances. If that feels like shaming, Then maybe the stance is shame worthy. Where is the projection? I’m being very clear and concise about my point, Not sure how that’s projection. We As the left coalition needs to recognize the problems with our party and those who consider themselves to be on the left.

We need fighters, if there are people in common sections Standing for the same old BS and calcified politicians who have no interest in making this government work for us, Only self interest, I’m going to call it out. That’s not projection, it’s honesty.

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EileenOR's avatar

I very much appreciate the language and tone of your reply. It feels very different from the previous series of responses to others. Thank you!

So now, I will ask you what you think of Brad Lander's candidacy? I watched the debate and I thought he self-described very well. I'd already read the NYTimes analysis of the candidates, and reasons they found him the best choice.

No candidate is "perfect," a truth hard for all of us to accept when we "fall in love" with our candidate as I did with Obama, in particular, and that flame still burns within me...But I digress...

But given that I am no longer living in Manhattan, although I self-identify as a born and bred New Yorker, I am emotionally, as well as politically, invested in this campaign. So, I would appreciate your response, as well as responses from any other New York City voters who might read this.

Thanks again!

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EileenOR's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywUKRl16_zU

UPDATE to my previous post. After watching this 50 minute interview with Zohran Mamdani, I would definitely be voting for him if I were still living in Manhattan. I also learned before I watched the interview with Tim Miller of The Bulwark (link) that AOC endorsed Mamdani. But I needed to hear him speak substantively and more than in generalities before I made my decision. And Tim's questions and Zohran's responses very much impressed me. I am not easily impressed. Moreover, I get a gut feeling about people, particularly politicians, and I found him to be authentic, quite comfortable in seeing and expressing nuances, and having a wry and warm sense of humor.

I believe any of you here will appreciate the interview!

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