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Robertp123's avatar

I don't agree that Mark's ideas like "welcoming "intelligent" conversations with MAGA instead of blocking them" is effed up. If a conversation turns to threats, or violence or is buried under a mountain of misinformation, yes, that is a conversation-ender. Otherwise you risk being simply a contrarian, and that is also a conversation-ender, Conversation is the only way to learn.

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MrsCQ's avatar

Why not start having conversations with fellow Democrats first? We have so many differing opinions in our party. That is our blessing and our downfall. Republicans tend to vote for whomever their party nominates. Democrats do not. Let's heal our own Party first. No? I am not interested in trying to understand or come together with racists. I am SO over hearing from "real" Americans or the forgotten "working class" which really means white working class or Americans who hang out in diners waiting to be interviewed by Fox News.

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Suzanne's avatar

Thank you. And IтАЩm tired of hand-wringing over what we did wrong! Nothing! We told the truth. Should we have lied? Run non-stop hate commercials during football games? Written our own Project 2025? Threatened every liberal in the nation? Men fearing/hating/disrespecting women is why we lost. Tell it like it is. Who is sane washing now?

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MrsCQ's avatar

Exactly! I would add racism also was a strong contributor. Do people who interview the Trump voter expect them to say, yes, I just don't like Black people, especially really smart, well educated Black Women? Spot on the sane washing. It is so frustrating.

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SeekingReason's avatar

The excuse of тАЬforgottenтАЭ poor hurt feelings of the Fascist-Felon-Rapist cult needs to be eliminated. On the first round of trump, MAYBE they were protest votes for those reasons. By now trump has shown himself to be a deadly Sedition inciter, he IS a 34-count convicted Felon & Rapist, he has given information to dangerous foreign enemies. He never won the popular vote with Hillary or Biden, but now miraculously, with Muskrat money, wins the popular vote and all swing states.

I am more angry with Democrats not challenging the election than I am with MAGA at the moment! Do something for the Dem base for ONCE!!!

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MrsCQ's avatar

Exactly. I don't know about "stolen" but Trump was sure helped in nefarious ways. Voter Suppression. Bomb threats. Few voting machines in, gee, surprise, high Dem voting areas, etc. Also the MSM is nothing more than a right wing propaganda machine. I think they succeeded in depressing our side as well. MSM and Trump voters love Trump whether they admit it or not. I know. Next up, real American voters in the midwest at diners interviewed giving their reasons why they voted for Trump and why they feel forgotten. Oh yeah bathrooms! I am sick of their "hurt" feelings. I wish the Dem Party would start focusing on healing our Party and stop kissing the MSM's collective ass. And yes, I know there are some good journalists out there but for the most part, they are very few and don't have the machine behind them.

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WJB Motown's avatar

Welcoming intellegent conversations with Maga....are you fc@king kidding me????

Same bull s7it as sending abortion rights to the states.........anti-vaxeer moron for department of health......38% of cabinet choices sex offenders.........barff bag please over here!.

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Johanna Park's avatar

Respectfully, being atheist had nothing to do with her being shallow and having no empathy or critical thinking skills. Just as being religious has nothing to do with whether someone is shallow and has no empathy or critical thinking skills. Having an intelligent conversation with any adult in the United States right now is challenging. People have been groomed to have short attention spans, are unable to manage uncertainty or discomfort well, and have been bombarded with misinformation for decades. As a mental health therapist I spend a lot of time teaching critical thinking and and managing emotions skills.

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Sheila S's avatar

I wish I had help with emotional skills because IтАЩm not managing that well right now ЁЯе┤

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Johanna Park's avatar

I completely understand. I have lots of coping skills and found my own therapist since trump got re-elected. After 10 years of Americans falling for a narcissistic billionaireтАЩs whiny victim persona - I think everyone is struggling with staying sane. ЁЯМ║

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MrsCQ's avatar

I go from shock, depression, anger, bitterness and then start all over again. I understand.

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