Thanks so much my.........I went out on a limb.......it is time for us to use more than a pillow to fight back against Maga. Suprisingly...got pushback.....sooooo listen up now........
When First Lady Donald Trump comes afte pushback people's medicade, Obamacare,social security.....what pillow will you use to fight back....the sofa, bedroom or carseat pillow???
Look, not every jackass is MAGA ... as can be seen from quite a few jackasses in these comments. Peter's a liberal in the sense called out by Phil Ochs in his song "Love Me, I'm a Liberal". Also consider how many Bernie supporters distinguished themselves from and attacked "liberals" for supporting "corporate Democrats" like Hillary. While I'm a democratic socialist and a long-time supporter of Bernie, I also consider those people to be jackasses who saddled us with Trump and his 3 SCOTUS appointments. (Not being an imbecile, I voted for Hillary.)
You are encountering the wall of one-hundred-percentism... Its an old American plague. It's the base of the Democratic Party, alas, just as the base of the GOP, the one that Trump co opted in 2016, is the Evangelical, who, in spite of a thousand contradictions, will still pretend it is Christian. It is why Hollywood manages to sell so many crappy films in this country, why the sight of a female nipple in public causes collective swooning. I have collected many wonderful comments as a kind of sociological experiment. ( And my pro is still on the Dem side, because I have principles of what is less worse...)
So,,,,,why do you even read this content? If you are so full of anger and hate for the people on this thread, why engage? Really curious from an intellectual point of view. Did you feel better after you typed that foul message? Well, I suppose I will see you in church on Sunday. Bless your heart.
Whoosh! Their comment wasn't directed at "this content" or the people on this thread (aside from Peter) ... did you even read "this content"? You sure don't pay much attention for someone who is "really curious from an intellectual point of view".
And you will find no answers in church.
P.S. And then along comes some other jerk with poor reading comprehension ... Denise responded to WJB Motown, NOT to Peter, who didn't even comment in this subthread.
Anyway, we all have more important things to do and more important fights than this ... so I'm muting this thread. Bye all.
Hey Denise!! Way to totally miss the point! Maybe your delicate senses aren’t going to mesh well in the coming decades when we all see religion for what it really is. Might want to raise your vibration so you don’t get hurt.
Peter is a bot. The grammar and syntax aren't english. Just collapse the comment and don't waste your energy. (Although I highly approve the sentiment!)
Does this rhetoric feel good and healing and inclusive to you, Mr Motown. This kind of language is what we are all trying to heal from...it so sounds like MAGA to me
Really??? Just because someone's angry and uses swear words doesn't mean they have to be maga. I swear alot, mainly because of the fucking idiots who voted for The Felon. BTW, there are a lot of studies out there which point to the use of swear words indicating the user has a bigger vocabulary than many others.
Really??? Sometimes, it gets a bit frustrating to when the Magas come for people they do not like.....#1...Nothing happens ...using a pillow to fight back gets nowhere fast.
Yup.....I decided to use their own medicine to blast back at them!!! And look what happens!!! OMG.......Major pushback.....I did this on purpose to see what would happen....Do I regret doing this...NO......Do you not get tired of being pushed around?? Sounds like a NO!!! ..........Ms Mercer.....feel better now projecting your almighty ,perfect, squeeky clean......whatever.....at me???
Stick to your plan Meidastouch! Do not let big money donors take control of our Meidas Mighty movement.
You, Brett and Jordy have started a movement that billionaires detest because they know without every American on board, their plan to make the rest of us no more than a basket of submissive beggars, won’t work!
The fact that MTN is a network of truth founded by a team dedicated to freedom and truth is why I am here. Thank you for your reassurance. You are speaking for we who seek and value freedom and truth. Deep gratitude!!! Happy New Year!!
As much as I agree with you, I would watch out for that word "truth." It is still an opinion, a bias, a way of observing and parsing reality. Not necessarily the truth, a word that has a lot of meaning.
When Ben is expressing an opinion, he says so. Usually he is just explaining the facts with no opinion attached. He tells us what's happening now and how it relates to things in the past. It's the truth. A perfectly apt word to describe Meidas Touch.
Agreed, there is truth, buit the opinion part is not truth, it's opinion. I disagree with a number of things he has said in the past, and I also disagree with his focusing on some almost random negative comment. Also in the tone, but that is not a question of truth or not.... The danger here is that we once again are creating monster communities that can not move intellectually, because it's all about thumbs up or down, sort of like the Colosseum way back before there was Christmas.
I apologize, if I don't possess that puritan vein that either loves or hates. I reserve those two sentiments for very special people.
If you think this group cannot move forward intellectually, perhaps this is not the space for you. Sit with your zen and reflect on your criticisms. They seem nothing but argumentative and a bit holier than thou.
Are you another person who out of hand rejects any critique? You have just proven the point that many are making: A large part of the Democratic base is incapable of even accepting an alternative view. Exactly like the Trump base. Or how am I to understand your snide comment? Is that really how you approach problem solving?
Bullshit. In my job, I receive critique every single day. What I will not listen to is a diatribe without cause. Nor will I listen when someone assumes they know more than I do about my job, community, or resources. Habe a good day.
I think you are screaming at me? For what reason? Why? Is it because you are anonymous? I am not critiquing you. What exactly did I say to get under your skin? Have a look at that? Did I insult you? Did I make any snide remarks? What exactly is your problem?No, don’t tell me, I am not a psychologist.
No one is holding you here. That Ben and his highly qualified team use opinion and facts, makes this is well-rounded source. I very rarely disagree, they speak in legal terms and common sense. You can fact check anything, have at it. Just because you don't agree does not mean it is not accurate. Maybe you aren't up for this fight.
No one is holding me here, indeed. But I am here. You know, water gets mossy and smelly when it sits around. Throwing a few stones in it can help it get moving... I hear all my "soon to be former) Democrat friends whining and going haywire because they lost a perfectly winnable election. So: Use some critical skills, and if you don't have any, don't reject people who think a little differently.
I will continue using my free speech until Ben himself cancels me.
OK, anonymous Bella: chill out or lay of the Pinot Noire or whatever you’re having that gets you all hepped up. You are obviously out of sorts, maybe you should go yell at your family or something.
What are you even doing here? You're no better than MAGA with your gaslighty, ignorant comments. This isn't an airport. Don't need to announce your departure.
Dualities are sometimes mere paradoxes... I am reading the delightful Tao Te Ching with the commentary by an acquaintance... It sort of "What is there is also what is not there..." A potter uses clay to make space...
Yes, there's a lot of cult thinking here. While I appreciate what the Meiselas clan has achieved, Ben is a propagandist with a quite skewed presentation. But at least it's truth-*based*, which is not the case with the right wing's propaganda, which is wall-to-wall lies wrapped around a few intentionally distorted facts.
Ron Filipowski, who edits the MTN, points out a lot of the stuff the right-wing ecosystem does and with success, including Trump, who retweats any crap like mad (and gets yelled yt by the left for doing so)... And this thread is glaring evidence of why we are losing that battle....But don't DARE get involved even constructively, don't DARE suggest any alternative, don't DARE use your critical faculties, your experience, your learning, to maybe contradict the narrative... the grouthinkers will attack you like rabid dogs...
That is precisely why quite a few voters went to the Trump camp, because they are sick of being told what to do and how to think... just don't call them deplorables or garbage, with all the moral superiority of a Puritan schoolmarm. This attitude is an absolute disaster for the Democrats... If it continues, the midterms will be a hecatomb for them... I even suspect they are falling into an expectations trap.
Thanks for the balanced reply. Yes, the MT uses facts to come to certain valuable conclusions, which is why I sought them out (and will continue to do so in spite of the rabid, outraged, reactions by the red-faced guardians of the grail obviously been triggered by my failure to bow down 100% to these commentators.
But again (why is this so difficult to understand?), those facts upon which opinion and comment are based need to be gathered first, and for that you need people on the ground, you need people whose mind is not necessarily clouded by opinion. This is one of the dangers of the citizen journalist. And, alas, everything being visual, alas, that is expensive and not necessarily the best way to gather news. The difference with the Trump propagandists is that they don't need facts, they invent them as they go along.
But the groupthink is the same on both sides. And the group on the right was bigger. But on the so-called left, the group has an extra portion of obnoxiousness, read the reactions to my very light critique: It's the deep-seated moralism, the legacy of 400 plus years of puritanism. You either either become a member of the cult, or you're out. That's why change in the nation is about as easy as turning a tanker around in a drydock.
Truth is defined as a fact or belief that is accepted as true. Beliefs vary from person to person, but facts are facts. MTN reports on facts, not heresay or opinion and when they discuss facts. I appreciate having the facts they present, as well as their well informed opinions (backed by facts).
I certainly am sure that Trump lies almost every time he opens his mouth...and that's been well documented.
"Truth is defined as a fact or belief that is accepted as true." Close. But a belief is true for a person or a group when it fits their perceptions, attitudes, belief systems. For the scientists, facts are accepted according to existing data and have to be reconsidered once new data has been found, which is why researchers keep plowing away at oftentimes strange experiments. When we realized that lightening was not god throwing a tantrum (thx to Franklin and others, like Thomas-F. Dalibard in 1752) , a lot of things changed in the collective consciousness, though it did not change immediately. So truth appears as something changeable. And therefore rejecting any additional input is not a reason to crucify, vilify, insult and cast out the miscreant. This is one reason why the ad hominem attack is considered a fallacy. Because it is irrelevant and, to be direct about it, stupid.
I really don't know. It's like what St.-Augustine said about time, you know what it is, but you can't describe it to others.
Many really fine thinkers have tried to nail The Truth down (I'm still trying to wrap my head around Wittgenstein) ... I keep a book with notes, and here is Nietzsche's definition: "Truths are illusions of which one has forgotten that they are illusions, metaphors that have become worn out and sense-perceptively powerless, coins that have lost their image and can now be considered as mere metal, no longer as coins.” Note: He says truths... not truth...
It's a really difficult concept.
Anyway:
I didn't mean to bother anyone's comfortable space of despair, nor raise their inner anti-intellectual warrior... But at least it proves what is really plaguing the country as a whole, left and right: groupthink of sorts. Bella up there, did a good turn... Reminded me why I left the USA (liberal Massachusetts, of all places, during the reign of error of Ronald W Reagan, the pre-Trump Trump). Where I live, you can still have honest and productive exchanges with people, even with conservatives.
"Business ethics" is an oxymoron. Meidas is obviously solvent. What is the present and future value of the enterprise?
You don't look a gift horse in the mouth. I don't know what Peter has in mind. Is he offering to buy a minority stake?
Do the brothers have 501 c4 charity status? They obviouly advertise. I figure I spend more on them than I used to spend on NYT and WAPO combined. If they are as "successful" as depicted, do we deserve dividends?
Should people like me be offered a piece of the action?
I think the brothers should consult people from the FCC bar. At present, they are limited to just "social media" which is unregulated and as can be seen by Musk et al and the Russiaan psy ops interference campaign is easily corrupted.
The Soros family recently has been acquiring FCC licenses. Would they be willing to partner? Are there networks that might deal? MSNBC?
The way social media works, site owners are paid by advertisers based on the number of "clicks" to the web page.
I remember in undergrad studying political history realizing that pure capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy.
I left that class categorizing functional democracy without predatory capitalism is fine… but predatory unbridled capitalism is not good for any community.
We seem to have a lot of people thinking predatory capitalism for inelastic goods is an opportunity to bleed people dry.
"Pure" capitalism has never existed. Just a theory.
The thing that US regulators miss about the big corporations is they are multinational -- and their ethos may be conflicted.
IMHO we have been undermined by our "allies" like OPEC since 1973. They fix production to set prices and their members include Iran and Russia that are fighting proxy wars against us and the Saudis, who have control of some of "our" biggest companies like Exxon. Trump is their man.
Although I was personally in the "professional class" I came from a long line of petit burgois capitalsts, most put out of business with the advent of big box like Walmart -- which majors in cheap foreign made goods.
The broadcast media is regulated by the FCC and is supposed to give the public info -- as opposed to entertainment. Broadcasters aren't supposed to spread lies. But Republicans refuse to regulate and enforce existing rules. Same goes for election laws.
Social media, which is unregulated, is out of control. But for Russian psy ops, Democrats would have swept the elections.
The Lorax is super pissed at all of us right now. Let's make sure we do good by him. We know what this means for the trees and the rest of the planet if we don't step up. Here's to working together in 2025.
I worked at and lived in an Ivy League University town. They like to hire their own grads, the Ivy league that is. Then they run the university like a tax free hedge fund. The small city that hosts this one in western NY suffers from a lack of stable jobs and seems to believe that everyone should be accepting venture capitol.
I was in a masters in organizational leadership at Chapman university where several courses in ethics were required. I was a distance learner but those courses required student to go to the campus to take them in person.
My military assignments did not work with that so I abandoned that degree with only 6 credit short. I am so embarrassed Eastman was a professor at their law school.
Then when I got my MBA at UC Davis it was also required as a major portion of organizational behavior. I was a finance and fraud focused MBA. Davis was clear about social responsibility in their program. I really liked that.
I like that ethics is required where I went but wish it was everywhere
If the MBA course was on business ethics they would certainly support the Meidas approach to true content.
Not everything is about cash. It makes me sad that so many in the US think cash is the answer to everything.
Rock on Meidas Mighty!!
You are so right. Corporate greed (among other things) is what has gotten us into this mess in the first place.
Hey Peter.......LIsten up asshole.........GO FUCK YOURSELF
You said it for me thanks
Thanks so much my.........I went out on a limb.......it is time for us to use more than a pillow to fight back against Maga. Suprisingly...got pushback.....sooooo listen up now........
When First Lady Donald Trump comes afte pushback people's medicade, Obamacare,social security.....what pillow will you use to fight back....the sofa, bedroom or carseat pillow???
Peter's a jerk but he's not MAGA.
"Maga-Lite-troll" is my take ..... not backing down a single diet coke or Big Mac.
Look, not every jackass is MAGA ... as can be seen from quite a few jackasses in these comments. Peter's a liberal in the sense called out by Phil Ochs in his song "Love Me, I'm a Liberal". Also consider how many Bernie supporters distinguished themselves from and attacked "liberals" for supporting "corporate Democrats" like Hillary. While I'm a democratic socialist and a long-time supporter of Bernie, I also consider those people to be jackasses who saddled us with Trump and his 3 SCOTUS appointments. (Not being an imbecile, I voted for Hillary.)
You are encountering the wall of one-hundred-percentism... Its an old American plague. It's the base of the Democratic Party, alas, just as the base of the GOP, the one that Trump co opted in 2016, is the Evangelical, who, in spite of a thousand contradictions, will still pretend it is Christian. It is why Hollywood manages to sell so many crappy films in this country, why the sight of a female nipple in public causes collective swooning. I have collected many wonderful comments as a kind of sociological experiment. ( And my pro is still on the Dem side, because I have principles of what is less worse...)
You can defend the guy, I couldn't care less. Go for it. Cheers.
So,,,,,why do you even read this content? If you are so full of anger and hate for the people on this thread, why engage? Really curious from an intellectual point of view. Did you feel better after you typed that foul message? Well, I suppose I will see you in church on Sunday. Bless your heart.
Whoosh! Their comment wasn't directed at "this content" or the people on this thread (aside from Peter) ... did you even read "this content"? You sure don't pay much attention for someone who is "really curious from an intellectual point of view".
And you will find no answers in church.
P.S. And then along comes some other jerk with poor reading comprehension ... Denise responded to WJB Motown, NOT to Peter, who didn't even comment in this subthread.
Anyway, we all have more important things to do and more important fights than this ... so I'm muting this thread. Bye all.
Denise W's comment was aimed at Peter. NOT what was in the thread. And the church comment is called irony.
You're (obviously) wrong on both counts.
Don’t go to church. Don’t like church do not like organized religion whatsoever.
Me too!
I know it's still early. Go get some coffee, take a deep breath, and read the article again. The comment was not directed at Ben, or MT's content.
I don't care who it's directed at. They could be yelling at the moon.
Intelligent people with integrity care.
Reconfigure your location. Make correction(s) as needed.
Agree. I do not suffer fools easily. I have no tolerance for bigmouth SOB's like Peter. (Mrs. G. here) 😅
Right! Peter The Punk has shown up in the wrong place. As a mom of five (5) adult children (3 men, 2 women) I'm mad as a wet hen at his stupidity.
The audacity to show up here telling MTN and The Meidas Mighty what we should do and what we did wrong burns my bacon. Peter can KMA.
Hey Denise!! Way to totally miss the point! Maybe your delicate senses aren’t going to mesh well in the coming decades when we all see religion for what it really is. Might want to raise your vibration so you don’t get hurt.
Well, although I am not a prude, and I like the f…word, I don’t think this is a useful response to Peter. Anger is too easy for people like him.
Peter is a BOT promoting the selling of “(s)ad space.
Ditto
Peter is a bot. The grammar and syntax aren't english. Just collapse the comment and don't waste your energy. (Although I highly approve the sentiment!)
Kick bot-Peters Maga-ss instantly is the way to go..........Never do things like
Merrick Garland and lose the entire battle.
😂😂😂 Yeah what he said..!!! 😂😂😂
Does this rhetoric feel good and healing and inclusive to you, Mr Motown. This kind of language is what we are all trying to heal from...it so sounds like MAGA to me
Really??? Just because someone's angry and uses swear words doesn't mean they have to be maga. I swear alot, mainly because of the fucking idiots who voted for The Felon. BTW, there are a lot of studies out there which point to the use of swear words indicating the user has a bigger vocabulary than many others.
Really??? Sometimes, it gets a bit frustrating to when the Magas come for people they do not like.....#1...Nothing happens ...using a pillow to fight back gets nowhere fast.
Yup.....I decided to use their own medicine to blast back at them!!! And look what happens!!! OMG.......Major pushback.....I did this on purpose to see what would happen....Do I regret doing this...NO......Do you not get tired of being pushed around?? Sounds like a NO!!! ..........Ms Mercer.....feel better now projecting your almighty ,perfect, squeeky clean......whatever.....at me???
Peter's a jerk but he's not MAGA.
You can swear all you like as far as I'm concerned. Fuck those who think only maga swear.
No, it's fucking not fucking language that we are fucking trying to heal from ... get a fucking grip.
Stick to your plan Meidastouch! Do not let big money donors take control of our Meidas Mighty movement.
You, Brett and Jordy have started a movement that billionaires detest because they know without every American on board, their plan to make the rest of us no more than a basket of submissive beggars, won’t work!
The fact that MTN is a network of truth founded by a team dedicated to freedom and truth is why I am here. Thank you for your reassurance. You are speaking for we who seek and value freedom and truth. Deep gratitude!!! Happy New Year!!
As much as I agree with you, I would watch out for that word "truth." It is still an opinion, a bias, a way of observing and parsing reality. Not necessarily the truth, a word that has a lot of meaning.
When Ben is expressing an opinion, he says so. Usually he is just explaining the facts with no opinion attached. He tells us what's happening now and how it relates to things in the past. It's the truth. A perfectly apt word to describe Meidas Touch.
Agreed, there is truth, buit the opinion part is not truth, it's opinion. I disagree with a number of things he has said in the past, and I also disagree with his focusing on some almost random negative comment. Also in the tone, but that is not a question of truth or not.... The danger here is that we once again are creating monster communities that can not move intellectually, because it's all about thumbs up or down, sort of like the Colosseum way back before there was Christmas.
I apologize, if I don't possess that puritan vein that either loves or hates. I reserve those two sentiments for very special people.
If you think this group cannot move forward intellectually, perhaps this is not the space for you. Sit with your zen and reflect on your criticisms. They seem nothing but argumentative and a bit holier than thou.
Are you another person who out of hand rejects any critique? You have just proven the point that many are making: A large part of the Democratic base is incapable of even accepting an alternative view. Exactly like the Trump base. Or how am I to understand your snide comment? Is that really how you approach problem solving?
Bullshit. In my job, I receive critique every single day. What I will not listen to is a diatribe without cause. Nor will I listen when someone assumes they know more than I do about my job, community, or resources. Habe a good day.
I think you are screaming at me? For what reason? Why? Is it because you are anonymous? I am not critiquing you. What exactly did I say to get under your skin? Have a look at that? Did I insult you? Did I make any snide remarks? What exactly is your problem?No, don’t tell me, I am not a psychologist.
No one is holding you here. That Ben and his highly qualified team use opinion and facts, makes this is well-rounded source. I very rarely disagree, they speak in legal terms and common sense. You can fact check anything, have at it. Just because you don't agree does not mean it is not accurate. Maybe you aren't up for this fight.
No one is holding me here, indeed. But I am here. You know, water gets mossy and smelly when it sits around. Throwing a few stones in it can help it get moving... I hear all my "soon to be former) Democrat friends whining and going haywire because they lost a perfectly winnable election. So: Use some critical skills, and if you don't have any, don't reject people who think a little differently.
I will continue using my free speech until Ben himself cancels me.
Enjoy.
"Soon to be former democrats". Dude, that may he the most ridiculous comment here.
OK, anonymous Bella: chill out or lay of the Pinot Noire or whatever you’re having that gets you all hepped up. You are obviously out of sorts, maybe you should go yell at your family or something.
What are you even doing here? You're no better than MAGA with your gaslighty, ignorant comments. This isn't an airport. Don't need to announce your departure.
Wow, you're so clever. None of the above but thanks for your concern. 🤡
Although I don’t like to think/act in dualities, I like what you have to say.
Dualities are sometimes mere paradoxes... I am reading the delightful Tao Te Ching with the commentary by an acquaintance... It sort of "What is there is also what is not there..." A potter uses clay to make space...
Yes, there's a lot of cult thinking here. While I appreciate what the Meiselas clan has achieved, Ben is a propagandist with a quite skewed presentation. But at least it's truth-*based*, which is not the case with the right wing's propaganda, which is wall-to-wall lies wrapped around a few intentionally distorted facts.
Just for the hell of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxrkZLWshzU
Ron Filipowski, who edits the MTN, points out a lot of the stuff the right-wing ecosystem does and with success, including Trump, who retweats any crap like mad (and gets yelled yt by the left for doing so)... And this thread is glaring evidence of why we are losing that battle....But don't DARE get involved even constructively, don't DARE suggest any alternative, don't DARE use your critical faculties, your experience, your learning, to maybe contradict the narrative... the grouthinkers will attack you like rabid dogs...
That is precisely why quite a few voters went to the Trump camp, because they are sick of being told what to do and how to think... just don't call them deplorables or garbage, with all the moral superiority of a Puritan schoolmarm. This attitude is an absolute disaster for the Democrats... If it continues, the midterms will be a hecatomb for them... I even suspect they are falling into an expectations trap.
Thanks for the balanced reply. Yes, the MT uses facts to come to certain valuable conclusions, which is why I sought them out (and will continue to do so in spite of the rabid, outraged, reactions by the red-faced guardians of the grail obviously been triggered by my failure to bow down 100% to these commentators.
But again (why is this so difficult to understand?), those facts upon which opinion and comment are based need to be gathered first, and for that you need people on the ground, you need people whose mind is not necessarily clouded by opinion. This is one of the dangers of the citizen journalist. And, alas, everything being visual, alas, that is expensive and not necessarily the best way to gather news. The difference with the Trump propagandists is that they don't need facts, they invent them as they go along.
But the groupthink is the same on both sides. And the group on the right was bigger. But on the so-called left, the group has an extra portion of obnoxiousness, read the reactions to my very light critique: It's the deep-seated moralism, the legacy of 400 plus years of puritanism. You either either become a member of the cult, or you're out. That's why change in the nation is about as easy as turning a tanker around in a drydock.
Truth is defined as a fact or belief that is accepted as true. Beliefs vary from person to person, but facts are facts. MTN reports on facts, not heresay or opinion and when they discuss facts. I appreciate having the facts they present, as well as their well informed opinions (backed by facts).
I certainly am sure that Trump lies almost every time he opens his mouth...and that's been well documented.
"Truth is defined as a fact or belief that is accepted as true." Close. But a belief is true for a person or a group when it fits their perceptions, attitudes, belief systems. For the scientists, facts are accepted according to existing data and have to be reconsidered once new data has been found, which is why researchers keep plowing away at oftentimes strange experiments. When we realized that lightening was not god throwing a tantrum (thx to Franklin and others, like Thomas-F. Dalibard in 1752) , a lot of things changed in the collective consciousness, though it did not change immediately. So truth appears as something changeable. And therefore rejecting any additional input is not a reason to crucify, vilify, insult and cast out the miscreant. This is one reason why the ad hominem attack is considered a fallacy. Because it is irrelevant and, to be direct about it, stupid.
Great point. What is the truth?
I really don't know. It's like what St.-Augustine said about time, you know what it is, but you can't describe it to others.
Many really fine thinkers have tried to nail The Truth down (I'm still trying to wrap my head around Wittgenstein) ... I keep a book with notes, and here is Nietzsche's definition: "Truths are illusions of which one has forgotten that they are illusions, metaphors that have become worn out and sense-perceptively powerless, coins that have lost their image and can now be considered as mere metal, no longer as coins.” Note: He says truths... not truth...
It's a really difficult concept.
Anyway:
I didn't mean to bother anyone's comfortable space of despair, nor raise their inner anti-intellectual warrior... But at least it proves what is really plaguing the country as a whole, left and right: groupthink of sorts. Bella up there, did a good turn... Reminded me why I left the USA (liberal Massachusetts, of all places, during the reign of error of Ronald W Reagan, the pre-Trump Trump). Where I live, you can still have honest and productive exchanges with people, even with conservatives.
Ditto to everything you just said❣️
"Business ethics" is an oxymoron. Meidas is obviously solvent. What is the present and future value of the enterprise?
You don't look a gift horse in the mouth. I don't know what Peter has in mind. Is he offering to buy a minority stake?
Do the brothers have 501 c4 charity status? They obviouly advertise. I figure I spend more on them than I used to spend on NYT and WAPO combined. If they are as "successful" as depicted, do we deserve dividends?
Should people like me be offered a piece of the action?
I think the brothers should consult people from the FCC bar. At present, they are limited to just "social media" which is unregulated and as can be seen by Musk et al and the Russiaan psy ops interference campaign is easily corrupted.
The Soros family recently has been acquiring FCC licenses. Would they be willing to partner? Are there networks that might deal? MSNBC?
The way social media works, site owners are paid by advertisers based on the number of "clicks" to the web page.
I remember in undergrad studying political history realizing that pure capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy.
I left that class categorizing functional democracy without predatory capitalism is fine… but predatory unbridled capitalism is not good for any community.
We seem to have a lot of people thinking predatory capitalism for inelastic goods is an opportunity to bleed people dry.
"Pure" capitalism has never existed. Just a theory.
The thing that US regulators miss about the big corporations is they are multinational -- and their ethos may be conflicted.
IMHO we have been undermined by our "allies" like OPEC since 1973. They fix production to set prices and their members include Iran and Russia that are fighting proxy wars against us and the Saudis, who have control of some of "our" biggest companies like Exxon. Trump is their man.
Although I was personally in the "professional class" I came from a long line of petit burgois capitalsts, most put out of business with the advent of big box like Walmart -- which majors in cheap foreign made goods.
The broadcast media is regulated by the FCC and is supposed to give the public info -- as opposed to entertainment. Broadcasters aren't supposed to spread lies. But Republicans refuse to regulate and enforce existing rules. Same goes for election laws.
Social media, which is unregulated, is out of control. But for Russian psy ops, Democrats would have swept the elections.
Oh yeah for real! I’m with you…
The Lorax is super pissed at all of us right now. Let's make sure we do good by him. We know what this means for the trees and the rest of the planet if we don't step up. Here's to working together in 2025.
I worked at and lived in an Ivy League University town. They like to hire their own grads, the Ivy league that is. Then they run the university like a tax free hedge fund. The small city that hosts this one in western NY suffers from a lack of stable jobs and seems to believe that everyone should be accepting venture capitol.
I just finished my MBA, and hardly ever got any sort of discussion on ethics in any of my classes. Just weak passing mentions.
I was in a masters in organizational leadership at Chapman university where several courses in ethics were required. I was a distance learner but those courses required student to go to the campus to take them in person.
My military assignments did not work with that so I abandoned that degree with only 6 credit short. I am so embarrassed Eastman was a professor at their law school.
Then when I got my MBA at UC Davis it was also required as a major portion of organizational behavior. I was a finance and fraud focused MBA. Davis was clear about social responsibility in their program. I really liked that.
I like that ethics is required where I went but wish it was everywhere
The fact that it is not is really telling.
Agree