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Madam Geoffrin's avatar

I have never before rooted against the USA, my home, my country. But in this nonsensical trade war with Canada and Mexico, I hope they clean Trump’s clock.

It is embarrassing and a shameful way to treat our neighbors, our friends.

Such stupidity.

And JD Vance remains as creepy as ever.

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bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

It is embarrassing. More and more I believe that Teump is in serious cognitive decline and that Project 2025 and Musk are pulling the strings. They prepare the EO's for Trump to sign, he signs, wanders off to play golf.

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Michael O'Neill's avatar

That's exactly what's going on. Musk is running the show and once they have as cabinet in place, they're going to invoke the 25th Amendment and make Vance president. Vance is much more involved in Musk and Peter Thiel's destroy-the-world scheme. Trump is the useful idiot they're using to get complete control.

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It's a Grand Journey's avatar

My concern goes one step further. I worry that they will skip Vance and simply install Musk as our leader. After all, they don't seem to care much about minor technicalities in the Constitution.

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T L Mills's avatar

Exactly my own fear--who's got the keys to the treasury dept. and the team in place to cut off all disbursement of monies to the every program and grant and funding in the country??? It ain't Trump. Trump hasn't got a clue because he can be easily manipulated by praise and flattery. Don't think for a minute that Musk is unaware of this. I'm pretty sure that for all his lack in people skills, Lone Skum can turn on the charm to get what he wants. Musk is the unreconstructed South African fascist in this scenario--Trump is just the dope on a rope.

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Barb O's avatar

Yeh. Only I have refined his name from Leon Skum to Lyin Skum.

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Kevin Robbins's avatar

I’m wondering how the MAGA cult would react to dumping Trump. Are cult leaders easily shunted aside? Not sure JD has the juice.

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Jane in NC's avatar

MAGA isn't in love with JD, and they like his wife even less. Their devotion is to Trump, and Trump alone. But it's becoming more apparent by the day that Trump is but a figurehead in his own administration. Musk is pulling all the strings. And now that he's had a taste of power, JD can take a flying leap. He won't easily depose Elmo from his Prime Minister job.

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Scooter's avatar

Vance may not be liked by the MAGAts, but they aren't in power, the broligarchy is. Vance is their guy, they don't care 2 hoots about the MAGAts, no longer need them (at the soon to be nonexistent) elections, and just used them to get the first front man elected.

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Jane in NC's avatar

Yes, exactly. MAGAs are in their Finding Out era right now as they realize that The Felon was serious last summer when he said, 'I don't care about you; I just need your votes.' They laughed it off then, but who's laughing now?

On the broligarchy having Vance as their guy, a few months ago I would have agreed with you. But now? Musk is running the U.S. government with The Felon's OK. The bros don't need Vance anymore.

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Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

No one likes the Vance (bedbug in YIddish). He was the least liked member of Congress after Cancun Cruz. But that would be in keeping with the idiocy of the MAGA crowd. If the Muskrat and the Project 2025 crowd try it? That may be the straw that breaks the MAGA back.

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Michael O'Neill's avatar

At first glance, you're right, Vance is a creepy, needy loser who doesn't seem to be able to overpower Trump. But if this reporting is accurate, he doesn't need to be. His backers, led by Musk, will do all the heavy lifting. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1847705710206857270.html

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Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

I know, agree with you, but he is has one thing in common with the Convict-in-Chief, he has failed at everything after leaving Yale, where he was a DEI student, he has no friends, he can do them no favors. His backer is Peter Thiel another Afrikaner- strange all these racist feel so at home in the US. Thiel and the Muskrat are not buddies.

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Cindy Kopacek's avatar

I think you're exactly right. I will give Trump a month at this rate. And I don't think Trump will really care, he got what he wanted his get out of jail free card and now he can just go cheat at golf the rest of his life.

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olderwoman's avatar

That is what I think too, JD is gonna 25th Amendment Trump and seize power.

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Scooter's avatar

Agreed. Thiel forced Trump to choose Vance as vice president........a long history there. I think they want a front man for some time to come, and Vance is sooooo much smoother then Trump.

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Denny Corsa's avatar

And then how hard will it be to impeach Vance?!?

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Michael O'Neill's avatar

It will be nearly impossible, unless the MAGA cultists that worship Trump turn on him. Then, congressional Republicans might decide being reelected is more important than falling in line for Vance.

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TR's avatar

As much as I don't want my retirement funds and Investments to be screwed I really would like every maga person to be impacted so bad that they're living in the gutter drinking sewer water that's what they deserve

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Fraser's avatar

Well, they are probably convinced it's just koolaid!!

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May Lee's avatar

They wouldn't care - they'll think they're doing it for their "Dear Leader" and of course blame everything on the left

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Burke's avatar

What if Elon makes a phone call to a Senator and offers him $10 million to vote as he directs? Or $100 million? Can he be prosecuted for felony bribery?

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Burke's avatar

He paid $290 million for his White House office and control of the Treasury and other departments. Why not just buy Congress too? Who will stop him?

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Marianne Sweet's avatar

Not Congress, they're for sale for sure!

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It's a Grand Journey's avatar

He can't offer a bribe, but gratuities after the fact seem perfectly acceptable to our Supreme Court.

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bettievanoverbeke's avatar

Now called tips and untaxed

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Jacquelyn Suter's avatar

If Elon called a senator and made an 'offer', I would assume he's libel for bribery. If Musk/Trump made a threat of primary-ing that person, I would assume they could be held for serious threat. The question is not whether or not they could, or should be, held for criminal activity, the question is whether they WOULD BE.

Was Trump's 'suggestion' to Zelensky that he open an investigation into Biden upon thinly veiled threat of withholding already Congressional-approved funding a violation of law. Yes, of course it was. Did he survive an impeachment? Yes, of course, he did.

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Julie Smalley's avatar

Well yeah. Seems like he should be arrested for taking over the payment systems! He doesn’t have clearance to have access to all that information. And seems like Bessent is not upholding his oath to the constitution by letting Musk have this unfettered access. I have always said Heritage Foundation is only using Trump. They’ll let him enrich himself but Vance is who they wanted. But now maybe it is Musk. They will just use Vance to occupy the Oval Office. It’s all so mind boggling!

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KNF2024's avatar

I totally agree, they’ve been looking for a puppet to advance their agenda and they found him, a bat shit crazy puppet! And they’re all on board with his lunatic co-President because everyone can scream and holler about him while they stay in the background pulling the strings. What a mess. I don’t know how we’re going to find a way out of this.

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Linda Fulcher's avatar

Attorneys should have been in DC District Court this morning demanding a cease and desist order, a TRO, and a warrant for Musk's arrest. Members of Congress should be forcing their way into every office Musk has occupied. Nobody is doing a damn thing except whining and issuing sternly worded letters. Our Dem members of Congress don't give a damn. We are screwed.

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Denny Corsa's avatar

Who’s Bessent?

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T L Mills's avatar

the new Secretary of the Treasury and a total asshole.

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Linda Fulcher's avatar

Congress should be screaming for Bessent to resign, but they won't. Utter cowards and quislings.

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David Howard's avatar

Don't fèl bad about your country

Canadian love the American people

We have fought and died together for our freedoms

We stand with our friends

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ramona j's avatar

Much appreciated. We will have to figure out some secret way for you to know who's on your side. It's hard to do here. This is really very sad.

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T L Mills's avatar

Thank you, Mr. Howard. Mainers are practically in Canada as it is. Most sane Americans love our neighboring countries to the North and South. Trump, although he demands the absolute personal loyalty of his minions, has never been a paragon of trustworthy loyalty himself. Quite the reverse.

Trump has noticeable cognitive issues and his latest insanity of undermining our closest allies with an incredibly stupid trade war, is a result of an infection of imperialism that has gone to his brain (what there is of it) and is no doubt being egged on by Putin, Musk and Vance.

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bettievanoverbeke's avatar

We are friends but the criminal Musk and FELON tRump are your enemies

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Stephanie Scott's avatar

I feel the exact same way you do.

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Barbara Martin's avatar

Me to!!

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Fraser's avatar

Yes, J.e.D. Vance is Gollum on steroids!

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Mary Ann Brown's avatar

I feel the same way. Trump refuses to accept that these tariffs cause the prices of goods to go up for consumers. I feel so terrible for Canada and Mexico, who are our neighbors and friends. We are likely looking at stock prices falling and inflation rising again.. Trump is a stupid man who aims to undo all the economic good that Biden/Harris did.

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Susan Raquel's avatar

I think that he knows exactly what he is doing and relishes the ability to control and punish our country for not giving him his desired100% support/loyalty. He doesn't care if it also punishes MAGA because he doesn't need them anymore. So what if his red states are hit the hardest by some of Canada's tariffs? That will make them even more susceptible to being modern day slaves. Hartmann explains:

https://hartmannreport.com/p/why-are-red-state-citizens-poorer-2ef

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Linda Russell's avatar

The problem is that we, the American people, are the ones who will suffer.

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