Who is enforcing these judgements? Trump doesn’t have a good reputation for obeying the law, and neither he or his henchmen really care about the damage they are doing to our country.
Who is enforcing these judgements? Trump doesn’t have a good reputation for obeying the law, and neither he or his henchmen really care about the damage they are doing to our country.
You are still under the impression that the Federal Gov. is being run as an orderly government of, by, for the People.
Does any autocratic takeover obey the laws? Have you read about Russia, China?
Have you seen trump use the absolute power of the Presidential pardon to free violent insurrectionists from prison, pardon 1500 people who wanted to overturn an Election? Manafort and too many buddies who didn't "rat" on trump all got Pardons.
There will be no criminal, no indictments, trials, sentences, no illegal action that cannot be pardoned by a US President in Federal actions. Many civil court actions can be "handled" and forced to Federal Courts for a pardon to be given out.
Tell me specifically, please that I have assumed something that has not happened, will not happen, cannot happen in an autocracy, oligarchy, theocracy.
I already looked into how I can go live in Canada. Health care is the only issue for a non-citizen and I am retired-not a skilled person looking for work. So, I'm stuck until my next big idea.
I believe that if Dump himself ordered Musk to intentionally break the law then there would be no immunity possible for him or for Dump. But Dump could also claim he was doing “official business” for the president and even if the courts threw that out he could still tangle it up the courts, probably for years. These new moves by the courts are good and are not going to be so easy for him or Musk to just dismiss. Many of them will stay in place until the final outcomes of any court proceedings, appeals, etc. and again that could take until the end of his term, easily, and hopefully.
There is NO enforcement power vested in court verdicts, orders, rulings.
DOJ, FBI, must enforce what the courts order. This is the way USA set up the powers of justice--so courts do not have too much power.
Musk, GOP, MAGA politicians in states etc. know if they stick close enough to trump/Heritage/Musk objectives they will make $$, get power through criminality and will get a Presidential pardon for their behavior.
Musk probably has his pardon already or he can blackmail trump/Vance into if with trump's private info., taxes, FBI investigations etc. You have to think like a powerful, wealthy, connected person and pretend you are that person.
Abstract, critical thinking and curiosity show you what they MAY do not what they CAN do.
Or Musk could simply buy a country -- or the Dear Leader of one -- with no extradition agreement with the U.S., and continue to do whatever he chooses.
A Presidential pardon is absolute and unconditional in the US Constitution. What were our Founding Fathers drinking that day? That is a King's, autocrats power and they concentrated too much power in 1 Elected person's hands.
I'm an honest, law-abiding person but I have a great imagination and saw back in trump 1.0, like the a criminal Mob Bosses he hung out with in NYC, suggested openly to Manafort, Stone and others legally compromised that if you don't "rat" on him, he will take care of them. He did with pardons for Madoff, Flynn and some other minor figures.
No one has to flee at all. Only if the People find out where they hang out in the USA.
You are wrong. Presidential pardons are absolute. Pardons can peremptory which means final and absolute, without needing any underlying justification. They can be for specific acts, indictments, actions etc. That is why trump could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and resign, which he will do sooner rather than later, so President JD Vance could pardon him on EVERYTHING. It's a fact.
Trials, investigations etc. don't have to conclude in order for someone to be pardoned and free as a bird. There are NO limits, no conditions Constitutionally to Presidential pardons. An amendment would have to be ratified by the states.
I think you are talking about the recent SC decision that gives POTUS immunity from prosecution for himself for "official acts." Pardon Power is absolute in Federal cases. This article explains the few exceptions where it could be challenged. No Presidential Pardon has ever been reversed. It would take years to get to SC and I'm afraid with this SC the pardon power would be made even stronger with a "law for the ages" ruling like the "immunity for official acts" decision. Don't forget Manafort, Flynn, Stone, Bannon were all in trump's back pocket and he pardoned them.
The president appoints the head of the US Marshals Service. The one appointed by Biden in 2021 retired: Ronald Davis retired from the U.S. Marshals Service on January 17, 2025.
US Marshall's Service =6100 sworn and unsworn people who work for the President trump's Executive Branch-The Justice Department. Marshalls need orders to act and are not Lone Ranger, Superman coming to save the day.
Civil/State enforcement is even more easily blocked by threats, blackmail, violence-you know the MOB stuff.
There will be no illegality, criminal act, indictment, sentence that cannot be remedied by the absolute power of a Presidential Pardon.
1500 insurrections including violent ones sentenced to long prison terms-free to roam again, Madoff, other buddies of grift, crime trump has already pardoned.
trump will resign and President Vance will pardon him.
Do you see yet that courts will not be the answer? Don't go down the wormhole again to wait and wait for justice to be done!
We the People are the ONLY answer. MLK, Gandhi and millions of other leaders have changed the world with non-violent resistence. Followers used nothing else beside what they had-voices, purchasing power, bodies. But millions together can do it with perseverance and brave sacrifices.
January 6 ers thought violence was part of equation. $ is a 4th branch of gov, sort of. When screwed, it screams. Military is another “ sort of”. Plus, many voters did not vote and half who did were not for this. All actions against Heritage/Leo/Republicans/Trump/Musk seem worthy; all of them. Judicial, local/state, Congressional, media, and then of course there is the wrenches in the cogs of industry….
May be a window of opportunity to have some Congressional MAGATS come to Jessus.
I've been asking Meidastouch to interview Mike Turner.
Elon Musk’s Enemy, USAID, Was Investigating Starlink’s Contracts in Ukraine.
"The Lever reported last Tuesday that USAID’s inspector general was in the process of investigating its own public-private partnership between Musk’s Starlink and the Ukrainian government at the time that the billionaire’s DOGE crippled the agency. Publicly available information about that probe is still online. An announcement from last May reads: “The USAID Office of Inspector General, Inspections and Evaluations Division, is initiating an inspection of USAID’s oversight of Starlink satellite terminals provided to the Government of Ukraine. Our objectives are to determine how (1) the Government of Ukraine used the USAID-provided Starlink terminals, and (2) USAID monitored the Government of Ukraine’s use of USAID-provided Starlink terminals.”
"Musk has called the agency “evil” and a “criminal organization,” though the fact that USAID was investigating the Starlink activities may suggest ulterior motivations for the billionaire’s vitriol. It’s unclear what the Starlink probe’s status is right now."
Republican Rep. Mike Turner of Ohio was removed from his position atop the powerful House Intelligence Committee, telling CBS News that House Speaker Mike Johnson fired him, citing "concerns from Mar-a-Lago."
Also interview other House Repunlicans like Brian Fitzpatrick, and members of the Foreign Affairs Committee, like my rep, Elvira Salazar.
It would be terrific to see the FBI getting a search warrant to see IF Musk has complied, by reviewing every single computer system the guy has, completely. See how he likes it. Of course, that’s not likely since Pres Musk and V.P. Kash Patel would never allow it. Someone needs to find a way to get that guy(Musk) OUT of anything related to Washington D.C.
Not gonna happened. trump controls Dept of Justice and FBI. They won't execute a warrant and if they did trump would give Musk, any law breaker in the Coup a Presidential pardon.
We the People are the only answer left. There is no one coming to rescue law/order, justice, stopping the coup NOW.
We must organize, gather, sacrifice. Boycott February 28th, General Strikes, Walk-Outs, Sit-ins, Car-ins to block entrances and highways around DC, Massive Demonstrations, disrupt the status quo whereever and whenever We can.
Even today when there are three special elections occurring for US House seats, people are having to send letters to the DNC asking them to provide funds for Democratic Party candidates running for those positions. The DNC is not even on board with supporting candidates that could make a difference in the balance of the US House. The DNC along with their newly elected "chairman" are still going with the "We can't win in a red state so why even try" routine that they adopted long ago and are still sticking with it. So they are supporting the takeover of the government by fascists. Don't look to the Democratic Party to do anything useful because they've proven to be useless. There answer is to have Chuck Schumer lead a pep rally. All hunched over in his gray suit yelling into the microphone USA! USA!. So sad and pathetic.
WE can't know because trump controls DOJ, FBI and has the absolute power of the Presidential pardon to protect all law breakers from any legal consequences.
How can they tell if information is destroyed, or not transferred and then 1 set is destroyed? I want to know how the cyber police are monitoring the hackers. Man, we can’t afford to dismantle any of our trusted FBI servants. Crash Patel!
The US Marshals are obeying Musk and Trump's orders to escort government employees out of their place of work. What makes you think they'll turn around and enforce judgments against Trump?
This Reuters story shows it's happening. The key paragraph is:
"The Trump administration removed two top security officials at the U.S. Agency for International Development, a top Musk target, after they tried to stop DOGE representatives from gaining access to secure parts of the building. The security personnel were confronted by members of the U.S. Marshals Service, Reuters reported."
I doubt very much if they were from the Marshals', who are assigned to US Courts. The courts also have Court Security Officers assigned under contract. I borrowed courtrooms natioanlly to hold hearings. I saw a video where members of congress were stopped at the same bukilding by a ununiformed man who did not display a badge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyapTDyki-Q
My office was in in DC. Every building has an agency security service. Most from the Federal Protective Service. https://www.dhs.gov/federal-protective-serviceIn some buildings the work was contracted to rent a cops.
You said "no proof of that," so I showed you proof, and now you say a story by Reuters misidentified other people as Marshals, doing a job Marshals have sometimes been tasked with. Keep your blinders on and keep believing the rule of law will save us. I'll keep believing Musk-Trump will do anything to avoid being stopped
And Musk is p**sed about it too. To showcase his total lack of understanding how the American judicial system works, Elon's calling for the judge who issued the order yesterday morning to be impeached! Darn that judge for correctly doing his job!!
Musk’s “immunity” is a pardon from Trump for criminal acts.
There is no pardon or immunity for civil penalties. Or, for violation of State laws.
The latter is tricky. Will it be possible for state prosecutors to bring state criminal cases against him for what he is doing? There seem to be state charges developing against some of the pardoned insurrectionists. But whether those are viable remains to be to be seen.
But how did he find out so many $$ sent out with out social security numbers. THere is a pocket gadget that can read our SSN numbers etc even through metal?? One 19 year old in our stuff has a background for that kind of thing.
You must realize these are not ordinary people whose actions can be logically explained. Much of this information was out there before the election and almost a third of the registered voters didn’t vote.
This can also be traced back to 4 million LEGAL voters who were purged from voter rolls (mostly in minority districts) and thus barred from voting, as well as the gerrymandering in mostly red and swing states. Playing field is definitely not fair or equal.
I saw a podcast yesterday with George Conway that was very disturbing. He said that both trump and elon don't care about the laws. Even if the judges rule against them in these cases, they probably won't comply. And who will make them do so? If they are held in contempt, or ordered to jail for not complying, the US Marshals are the ones that will enforce those edicts.
However, the US Marshals fall under the Justice department, which falls under the Executive Branch. Therefore, it isn't going to happen.
Then we will be in a place where laws no longer matter. If they don't apply to some, why should they apply to anyone else in this country? There will be chaos.
Also, what keeps trump from leaving office?
He said that the only way he sees the possibility of change is if there is a public outcry and revolt.
I'm sorry to be such a Debbie Downer after reading your uplifting newsletter.
I listened to that this morning and I have to agree both with you and Conway; The People are really the only refuge from chaos and the complete abolition of the rule of law ... this, however, leads me to visualize innocent people being killed by the military called up by Trump via the Insurrection Act (to give him cover; he obviously doesn't care about the actual legality...) as in Tiananmen Square and the tanks. This is not an impossibility any more and you're not being a Debbie Downer to talk about it.
I also viewed George Conway’s podcast. Despite the content being quite unnerving, it did highlight the power of Americans through their voice and great sacrifice which has been displayed for decades. Presently, America has been effectively hamstrung. We, the People, are the last barrier to the complete hijacking of our Constitution and our democracy.
George Conway is not my favorite source because of his ex-wife but he is smart and tells the facts as they are.
This is it.
And Presidential pardons cover Musk, all Cabinet heads, any buddies of trump and coupmasters.
Pardons have no limits, no restrictions. They are absolute in the US Constitution. Should have been limited by Amendment decades ago. Put it on your "to do" list if We get our nation back.
Gabriela… I saw the same. We only have democracy ( ability to live in a republic nation and globally), if we agree on civility, a set of not just parameters)but agreed rules of law.
Every house every home, every institution will always require ongoing evaluation. Improvement always helps the house stand better.
We have always been diverse. ( even a man and a women to me is thr most diverse relationship there is).
Wanting power is greed. Wanting money is not evil. Wanting wealth at the expense of everyone else is evil.
We are needing to climb up the mountain every day.
We must face truth and it’s a downer. THEY WILL NOT COMPLY AND THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT. Weak Dems didn’t do enough to prevent the last 3 weeks from happening. They could have blocked, delayed and obstructed as Indivisible has urged. Yet, they acquiesced and many voted for the horrid, evil, unqualified nominees. Schumer and Jeffries are weak leaders. We’re in a war. Our democracy is at stake. Not a time to be worried about being nice and observing protocol.
I was with you until your last sentence. Where I would disagree with you is that “we the people” let it happen. Maybe not you and me, but collectively, it happened because people voted for Trump. They chose the con.
You actually get it. US Marshalls are 6100 sworn and unsworn people spread around the US. They usually deliver subpoenas. Unsworn employees are what. Do they follow any code, take any oath to US Constitution, law/order-what just hired bodies?
There is no way of knowing that the stolen information has been deleted other than the promise of the rat himself. It's a pretty safe bet that the material was compressed, encrypted, and shipped off-site for layer dissemination. Encrypted, because there's a huge market for that information, and he isn't going to let it go for nothing. Given that his kids have been in there for days gathering information, it's unlikely that the cease and destroy order is worth the paper it's written on. While the rat of musk persuasion isn't smart enough to know how to get the information out, his kids would. It isn't hard. But it will be untraceable.
Court marshals are there to enforce the judge’s rulings and don’t forget, the fraudster and his little company still have a monitor installed checking on his business movements that he hasn’t been able to get rid of.
US Marshall are controlled by trump's Justice Dept. not the court's. There are 6100 Marshalls spread around the US. Some are sworn, some unsworn-just bodies. They bring in people who have fled bond, serve subpoenas, little stuff.
Nothing is illegal anymore for trump and all his coupmasters. Presidential pardons will erase any consequences to current criminal actions.
Don't get it yet? Think Russia, China-see any law/order, enforcement that impedes autocracy, oligarchy, kleptocracy there?
We have no law/order, justice, consequences because no enforcement or Presidential pardons make them a farce, a ruse, a comedy, a novel, a play, illusionary things, an idea.
There is NO enforcement power vested in court verdicts, orders, rulings.
DOJ, FBI, must enforce what the courts order. This is the way USA set up the powers of justice--so courts do not have too much power.
Musk, GOP, MAGA politicians in states etc. know if they stick close enough to trump/Heritage/Musk objectives they will make $$, get power through criminality and will get a Presidential pardon for their behavior.
Musk probably has his pardon already or he can blackmail trump/Vance into if with trump's private info., taxes, FBI investigations etc. You have to think like a powerful, wealthy, connected person and pretend you are that person.
Abstract, critical thinking and curiosity show you what they MAY do not what they CAN do.
🙌🏽⏰🔥⌛️⚖️🆘 If we acquiesce then we are done. And, given that choice most ppl will want to continue to oppose this coup & will view all the dirty deeds as provisional and not permanent. Who wants to just let Felon47 just walk in & Steal Everything We Hold Dear? Not me!!
I'm with you. The Economic Boycott February 28th is real I was notified by a local resistance group.
So stay home, BUY NOTHING, use no services, give no business to anyone but Mom and Pop small stores. I have done this during certain periods to do my own little protest. I will extend this Boycott as long as I can.
Right, why isn't he being held accountable. How do you raise a child or grandchildren up with the lies and deception knowing this is supposed to be a world leader. What a joke!
Who is enforcing these judgements? Trump doesn’t have a good reputation for obeying the law, and neither he or his henchmen really care about the damage they are doing to our country.
Very good point.
Enforcement is critical!!!
The courts use the US Marshals' Service.
Civil judgments are processed through remedies like garnishment. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-creditors-enforce-judgments.html
Musk is a private citizen and probably has no immunity. Yesterday, a federal judge temporarily blocked a Trump administration team led by Musk from accessing government payment processing systems in response to a challenge from the attorneys general in 19 states. Complaint.'https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/court-filings/state-of-new-york-et-al-v-trump-doge-temporary-restraining-order-memo-2025.pdf
Do the US Marshals report to the current DOJ? If so, doesn't that mean that Trump can stop them from enforcing the law? (I hope this is not the case).
In the meantime, the more We The People work together, the less power they will ultimately have.
If they don't follow the judges' orders, they'll be in contempt. Using the power of civil coercive contempt, can be jailed until they comply.
Funds for the federal judiciary are included annually in the Financial Services and General Government (FSGG) appropriations bill. https://www.uscourts.gov/data-news/reports/annual-reports/directors-annual-report/annual-report-2023/funding-and-budget-annual-report-2023
If they refuse to fund the courts, the courts can hold the administration in contempt.
Pending motions to unfreeze funds. https://riag.ri.gov/press-releases/attorney-general-neronha-files-motion-enforce-court-order-unfreeze-federal-funding
You are still under the impression that the Federal Gov. is being run as an orderly government of, by, for the People.
Does any autocratic takeover obey the laws? Have you read about Russia, China?
Have you seen trump use the absolute power of the Presidential pardon to free violent insurrectionists from prison, pardon 1500 people who wanted to overturn an Election? Manafort and too many buddies who didn't "rat" on trump all got Pardons.
There will be no criminal, no indictments, trials, sentences, no illegal action that cannot be pardoned by a US President in Federal actions. Many civil court actions can be "handled" and forced to Federal Courts for a pardon to be given out.
Tell me specifically, please that I have assumed something that has not happened, will not happen, cannot happen in an autocracy, oligarchy, theocracy.
How fast can we get hell out of here?
I already looked into how I can go live in Canada. Health care is the only issue for a non-citizen and I am retired-not a skilled person looking for work. So, I'm stuck until my next big idea.
Yes, come to Canada
I am afraid Trump controls all law enforcement!
Sadly true!!!
I believe that if Dump himself ordered Musk to intentionally break the law then there would be no immunity possible for him or for Dump. But Dump could also claim he was doing “official business” for the president and even if the courts threw that out he could still tangle it up the courts, probably for years. These new moves by the courts are good and are not going to be so easy for him or Musk to just dismiss. Many of them will stay in place until the final outcomes of any court proceedings, appeals, etc. and again that could take until the end of his term, easily, and hopefully.
There is NO enforcement power vested in court verdicts, orders, rulings.
DOJ, FBI, must enforce what the courts order. This is the way USA set up the powers of justice--so courts do not have too much power.
Musk, GOP, MAGA politicians in states etc. know if they stick close enough to trump/Heritage/Musk objectives they will make $$, get power through criminality and will get a Presidential pardon for their behavior.
Musk probably has his pardon already or he can blackmail trump/Vance into if with trump's private info., taxes, FBI investigations etc. You have to think like a powerful, wealthy, connected person and pretend you are that person.
Abstract, critical thinking and curiosity show you what they MAY do not what they CAN do.
Or Musk could simply buy a country -- or the Dear Leader of one -- with no extradition agreement with the U.S., and continue to do whatever he chooses.
A Presidential pardon is absolute and unconditional in the US Constitution. What were our Founding Fathers drinking that day? That is a King's, autocrats power and they concentrated too much power in 1 Elected person's hands.
I'm an honest, law-abiding person but I have a great imagination and saw back in trump 1.0, like the a criminal Mob Bosses he hung out with in NYC, suggested openly to Manafort, Stone and others legally compromised that if you don't "rat" on him, he will take care of them. He did with pardons for Madoff, Flynn and some other minor figures.
No one has to flee at all. Only if the People find out where they hang out in the USA.
Correction not Madoff but Manafort. I am getting my criminals mixed up as someone pointed out. Thanks.
They can and will ignore the courts. Rule of law is over!
Immuntiy ONLY applies to the President.....not anyone working for him....
You are wrong. Presidential pardons are absolute. Pardons can peremptory which means final and absolute, without needing any underlying justification. They can be for specific acts, indictments, actions etc. That is why trump could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and resign, which he will do sooner rather than later, so President JD Vance could pardon him on EVERYTHING. It's a fact.
Trials, investigations etc. don't have to conclude in order for someone to be pardoned and free as a bird. There are NO limits, no conditions Constitutionally to Presidential pardons. An amendment would have to be ratified by the states.
They may be “absolute” but NOT if Dump ordered him to do something Illegal, which is not an “official act” of the President. The SC says so.
I think you are talking about the recent SC decision that gives POTUS immunity from prosecution for himself for "official acts." Pardon Power is absolute in Federal cases. This article explains the few exceptions where it could be challenged. No Presidential Pardon has ever been reversed. It would take years to get to SC and I'm afraid with this SC the pardon power would be made even stronger with a "law for the ages" ruling like the "immunity for official acts" decision. Don't forget Manafort, Flynn, Stone, Bannon were all in trump's back pocket and he pardoned them.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/
Hopefully!
According to Wikipedia the DOJ is their parent agency, but they work for the district courts. They report to the judges.
Yes, they are directed by the U.S. Attorney General who is Pam Bondi........you think she will direct them arrest Musk???
The president appoints the head of the US Marshals Service. The one appointed by Biden in 2021 retired: Ronald Davis retired from the U.S. Marshals Service on January 17, 2025.
https://www.usmarshals.gov/who-we-are/history/directors-and-organizational-leadership/ronald-l-davis
What the Marshals Service does:
https://www.usmarshals.gov/sites/default/files/media/document/2020-Overview.pdf
US Marshall's Service =6100 sworn and unsworn people who work for the President trump's Executive Branch-The Justice Department. Marshalls need orders to act and are not Lone Ranger, Superman coming to save the day.
Civil/State enforcement is even more easily blocked by threats, blackmail, violence-you know the MOB stuff.
There will be no illegality, criminal act, indictment, sentence that cannot be remedied by the absolute power of a Presidential Pardon.
1500 insurrections including violent ones sentenced to long prison terms-free to roam again, Madoff, other buddies of grift, crime trump has already pardoned.
trump will resign and President Vance will pardon him.
Do you see yet that courts will not be the answer? Don't go down the wormhole again to wait and wait for justice to be done!
We the People are the ONLY answer. MLK, Gandhi and millions of other leaders have changed the world with non-violent resistence. Followers used nothing else beside what they had-voices, purchasing power, bodies. But millions together can do it with perseverance and brave sacrifices.
Madoff petitioned trump for clemency - it was never granted.
Thank you. I tried to edit it just now but failed. It is Manafort not Madoff. Close in appearance too, but different criminals
Manafort and Stone did get a pardon Dec. 2020, Gen. Flynn got one before them.
January 6 ers thought violence was part of equation. $ is a 4th branch of gov, sort of. When screwed, it screams. Military is another “ sort of”. Plus, many voters did not vote and half who did were not for this. All actions against Heritage/Leo/Republicans/Trump/Musk seem worthy; all of them. Judicial, local/state, Congressional, media, and then of course there is the wrenches in the cogs of industry….
He also ordered them to destroy what they took.
My questions are is it too late? Will they comply with destroying the information? How can we be sure our information is being protected?
Jamie Raskin wants to file a class action on behalf of everybody who has data.....
In addition to this exposure, Musk apparently has been committing his own foreign policy. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0l3wl76gzo
May be a window of opportunity to have some Congressional MAGATS come to Jessus.
I've been asking Meidastouch to interview Mike Turner.
Elon Musk’s Enemy, USAID, Was Investigating Starlink’s Contracts in Ukraine.
"The Lever reported last Tuesday that USAID’s inspector general was in the process of investigating its own public-private partnership between Musk’s Starlink and the Ukrainian government at the time that the billionaire’s DOGE crippled the agency. Publicly available information about that probe is still online. An announcement from last May reads: “The USAID Office of Inspector General, Inspections and Evaluations Division, is initiating an inspection of USAID’s oversight of Starlink satellite terminals provided to the Government of Ukraine. Our objectives are to determine how (1) the Government of Ukraine used the USAID-provided Starlink terminals, and (2) USAID monitored the Government of Ukraine’s use of USAID-provided Starlink terminals.”
"Musk has called the agency “evil” and a “criminal organization,” though the fact that USAID was investigating the Starlink activities may suggest ulterior motivations for the billionaire’s vitriol. It’s unclear what the Starlink probe’s status is right now."
Republican Rep. Mike Turner of Ohio was removed from his position atop the powerful House Intelligence Committee, telling CBS News that House Speaker Mike Johnson fired him, citing "concerns from Mar-a-Lago."
Also interview other House Repunlicans like Brian Fitzpatrick, and members of the Foreign Affairs Committee, like my rep, Elvira Salazar.
Suits take years! By then we’ll be a totally fascist country.
Never up, never in.
It would be terrific to see the FBI getting a search warrant to see IF Musk has complied, by reviewing every single computer system the guy has, completely. See how he likes it. Of course, that’s not likely since Pres Musk and V.P. Kash Patel would never allow it. Someone needs to find a way to get that guy(Musk) OUT of anything related to Washington D.C.
Not gonna happened. trump controls Dept of Justice and FBI. They won't execute a warrant and if they did trump would give Musk, any law breaker in the Coup a Presidential pardon.
We the People are the only answer left. There is no one coming to rescue law/order, justice, stopping the coup NOW.
We must organize, gather, sacrifice. Boycott February 28th, General Strikes, Walk-Outs, Sit-ins, Car-ins to block entrances and highways around DC, Massive Demonstrations, disrupt the status quo whereever and whenever We can.
Is Musk an American citizen? Or can he be extradited?
Yes, it’s too late and weak Dems allowed it!
Even today when there are three special elections occurring for US House seats, people are having to send letters to the DNC asking them to provide funds for Democratic Party candidates running for those positions. The DNC is not even on board with supporting candidates that could make a difference in the balance of the US House. The DNC along with their newly elected "chairman" are still going with the "We can't win in a red state so why even try" routine that they adopted long ago and are still sticking with it. So they are supporting the takeover of the government by fascists. Don't look to the Democratic Party to do anything useful because they've proven to be useless. There answer is to have Chuck Schumer lead a pep rally. All hunched over in his gray suit yelling into the microphone USA! USA!. So sad and pathetic.
Couldn't agree more. And the people at the top -- especially Biden with the help of Jill -- ensured that Trump would win.
no
WE can't know because trump controls DOJ, FBI and has the absolute power of the Presidential pardon to protect all law breakers from any legal consequences.
Welllllllllllllll it snows in July
How can they tell if information is destroyed, or not transferred and then 1 set is destroyed? I want to know how the cyber police are monitoring the hackers. Man, we can’t afford to dismantle any of our trusted FBI servants. Crash Patel!
But Trump could pre pardon Musk. Isn't that what Biden did with the J6 investigative committee members?
The US Marshals are obeying Musk and Trump's orders to escort government employees out of their place of work. What makes you think they'll turn around and enforce judgments against Trump?
No proof of that. Baloney.
This Reuters story shows it's happening. The key paragraph is:
"The Trump administration removed two top security officials at the U.S. Agency for International Development, a top Musk target, after they tried to stop DOGE representatives from gaining access to secure parts of the building. The security personnel were confronted by members of the U.S. Marshals Service, Reuters reported."
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-prosecutor-warns-legal-risk-anyone-hindering-musks-efficiency-effort-2025-02-03/
I doubt very much if they were from the Marshals', who are assigned to US Courts. The courts also have Court Security Officers assigned under contract. I borrowed courtrooms natioanlly to hold hearings. I saw a video where members of congress were stopped at the same bukilding by a ununiformed man who did not display a badge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyapTDyki-Q
My office was in in DC. Every building has an agency security service. Most from the Federal Protective Service. https://www.dhs.gov/federal-protective-serviceIn some buildings the work was contracted to rent a cops.
You said "no proof of that," so I showed you proof, and now you say a story by Reuters misidentified other people as Marshals, doing a job Marshals have sometimes been tasked with. Keep your blinders on and keep believing the rule of law will save us. I'll keep believing Musk-Trump will do anything to avoid being stopped
Have never been taksed with.
I worked in the field...and you?
And Musk is p**sed about it too. To showcase his total lack of understanding how the American judicial system works, Elon's calling for the judge who issued the order yesterday morning to be impeached! Darn that judge for correctly doing his job!!
I'd issue an order to show cause why he should be held in contempt and order that he appear ASAP.
Lead by musk 😂. A boy with money that's all he is.
Musk’s “immunity” is a pardon from Trump for criminal acts.
There is no pardon or immunity for civil penalties. Or, for violation of State laws.
The latter is tricky. Will it be possible for state prosecutors to bring state criminal cases against him for what he is doing? There seem to be state charges developing against some of the pardoned insurrectionists. But whether those are viable remains to be to be seen.
Depends on state law. There are lots of mandated funds, matching funds, etc that may be affected.
I'm still expecting there will be tort actions stemming from election interference.
But how did he find out so many $$ sent out with out social security numbers. THere is a pocket gadget that can read our SSN numbers etc even through metal?? One 19 year old in our stuff has a background for that kind of thing.
I’m a lot more mentally active too!
You must realize these are not ordinary people whose actions can be logically explained. Much of this information was out there before the election and almost a third of the registered voters didn’t vote.
I still can’t wrap my brain around those 90 million registered voters not voting!!!???
This can also be traced back to 4 million LEGAL voters who were purged from voter rolls (mostly in minority districts) and thus barred from voting, as well as the gerrymandering in mostly red and swing states. Playing field is definitely not fair or equal.
Russian psy ops. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2024_United_States_elections#:~:text=Russia's%20efforts%20represented%20the%20most,society%20and%20foster%20anti%2DAmericanism.
I saw a podcast yesterday with George Conway that was very disturbing. He said that both trump and elon don't care about the laws. Even if the judges rule against them in these cases, they probably won't comply. And who will make them do so? If they are held in contempt, or ordered to jail for not complying, the US Marshals are the ones that will enforce those edicts.
However, the US Marshals fall under the Justice department, which falls under the Executive Branch. Therefore, it isn't going to happen.
Then we will be in a place where laws no longer matter. If they don't apply to some, why should they apply to anyone else in this country? There will be chaos.
Also, what keeps trump from leaving office?
He said that the only way he sees the possibility of change is if there is a public outcry and revolt.
I'm sorry to be such a Debbie Downer after reading your uplifting newsletter.
I listened to that this morning and I have to agree both with you and Conway; The People are really the only refuge from chaos and the complete abolition of the rule of law ... this, however, leads me to visualize innocent people being killed by the military called up by Trump via the Insurrection Act (to give him cover; he obviously doesn't care about the actual legality...) as in Tiananmen Square and the tanks. This is not an impossibility any more and you're not being a Debbie Downer to talk about it.
I agree.
I also viewed George Conway’s podcast. Despite the content being quite unnerving, it did highlight the power of Americans through their voice and great sacrifice which has been displayed for decades. Presently, America has been effectively hamstrung. We, the People, are the last barrier to the complete hijacking of our Constitution and our democracy.
George Conway is not my favorite source because of his ex-wife but he is smart and tells the facts as they are.
This is it.
And Presidential pardons cover Musk, all Cabinet heads, any buddies of trump and coupmasters.
Pardons have no limits, no restrictions. They are absolute in the US Constitution. Should have been limited by Amendment decades ago. Put it on your "to do" list if We get our nation back.
Thank you. I had forgotten that George also mentioned pardons for everyone. To possibly include Trump pardoning himself.
Trump will resign before very long and President Vance, clean handed (ha) will step in and pardon trump. No problems at all for trump.
Gabriela… I saw the same. We only have democracy ( ability to live in a republic nation and globally), if we agree on civility, a set of not just parameters)but agreed rules of law.
Every house every home, every institution will always require ongoing evaluation. Improvement always helps the house stand better.
We have always been diverse. ( even a man and a women to me is thr most diverse relationship there is).
Wanting power is greed. Wanting money is not evil. Wanting wealth at the expense of everyone else is evil.
We are needing to climb up the mountain every day.
We are strong. We are one in this… together!
We must face truth and it’s a downer. THEY WILL NOT COMPLY AND THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT. Weak Dems didn’t do enough to prevent the last 3 weeks from happening. They could have blocked, delayed and obstructed as Indivisible has urged. Yet, they acquiesced and many voted for the horrid, evil, unqualified nominees. Schumer and Jeffries are weak leaders. We’re in a war. Our democracy is at stake. Not a time to be worried about being nice and observing protocol.
I was with you until your last sentence. Where I would disagree with you is that “we the people” let it happen. Maybe not you and me, but collectively, it happened because people voted for Trump. They chose the con.
You actually get it. US Marshalls are 6100 sworn and unsworn people spread around the US. They usually deliver subpoenas. Unsworn employees are what. Do they follow any code, take any oath to US Constitution, law/order-what just hired bodies?
But they report to the US Attorney General. Guess who: Pam Bondi, a total Trump loyalist. She will do whatever he wants.
Good morning Meidas Mighty and fam.
That’s my question. Even though it’s court-ordered, how do we know if they’re destroying the information they’ve obtained thus far? 🤔
Please help me understand that. Because like Larry M. said, Trump and his goonies care NOTHING about the law.
Have a good Puppy Bowl and Super Bowl LIX day! 🐶🏈
And have a great Superb Owl Day as well!
Funny!
There is no way of knowing that the stolen information has been deleted other than the promise of the rat himself. It's a pretty safe bet that the material was compressed, encrypted, and shipped off-site for layer dissemination. Encrypted, because there's a huge market for that information, and he isn't going to let it go for nothing. Given that his kids have been in there for days gathering information, it's unlikely that the cease and destroy order is worth the paper it's written on. While the rat of musk persuasion isn't smart enough to know how to get the information out, his kids would. It isn't hard. But it will be untraceable.
Court ordered? So what. Who’s going to enforce it? US Marshalls, who report to Pam Bondi, who does whatever Trump tells her.
Court marshals are there to enforce the judge’s rulings and don’t forget, the fraudster and his little company still have a monitor installed checking on his business movements that he hasn’t been able to get rid of.
IMHO Musk has to be the greatest target defendant of all time.
Exposed to damages for election interference under state law. Usurped the powers of the government? Product liability for flaming Teslas?
US Marshall are controlled by trump's Justice Dept. not the court's. There are 6100 Marshalls spread around the US. Some are sworn, some unsworn-just bodies. They bring in people who have fled bond, serve subpoenas, little stuff.
Nothing is illegal anymore for trump and all his coupmasters. Presidential pardons will erase any consequences to current criminal actions.
Don't get it yet? Think Russia, China-see any law/order, enforcement that impedes autocracy, oligarchy, kleptocracy there?
We have no law/order, justice, consequences because no enforcement or Presidential pardons make them a farce, a ruse, a comedy, a novel, a play, illusionary things, an idea.
We can thank the SUPREMELY CORRUPT Court (of fools) for much of this. But the Judicial Branch is our only hope and so far, they are doing the job.
Don’t count on it. With Pam Bondi as Attorney General, she’ll do whatever Trump wanats.
This is a cut and paste of a previous post.
There is NO enforcement power vested in court verdicts, orders, rulings.
DOJ, FBI, must enforce what the courts order. This is the way USA set up the powers of justice--so courts do not have too much power.
Musk, GOP, MAGA politicians in states etc. know if they stick close enough to trump/Heritage/Musk objectives they will make $$, get power through criminality and will get a Presidential pardon for their behavior.
Musk probably has his pardon already or he can blackmail trump/Vance into if with trump's private info., taxes, FBI investigations etc. You have to think like a powerful, wealthy, connected person and pretend you are that person.
Abstract, critical thinking and curiosity show you what they MAY do not what they CAN do.
Good point, guess I'll have to go back to feeling helpless 😑
Sorry. I'm not here to do that. I just want to tell it like a coupmaster might.
We must RESIST not wait any longer.
🙌🏽⏰🔥⌛️⚖️🆘 If we acquiesce then we are done. And, given that choice most ppl will want to continue to oppose this coup & will view all the dirty deeds as provisional and not permanent. Who wants to just let Felon47 just walk in & Steal Everything We Hold Dear? Not me!!
I'm with you. The Economic Boycott February 28th is real I was notified by a local resistance group.
So stay home, BUY NOTHING, use no services, give no business to anyone but Mom and Pop small stores. I have done this during certain periods to do my own little protest. I will extend this Boycott as long as I can.
Good luck to We the People. Make it MASSIVE.
U.S. Marshals report to Pam Bondi now, who does whatever Trump tells her to do. Guess what will happen? Not good.
No one! Trump owns all enforcement.
Exactly who watched elon destroy the records he has obtained? Lret's hope someone as cunning as elon is on our side and will outplay him
Exactly my question for both sides.
Right, why isn't he being held accountable. How do you raise a child or grandchildren up with the lies and deception knowing this is supposed to be a world leader. What a joke!
No kidding. He’s been so horrible for so long