no. not michelle. We'd have the same issue as with Kamala, actually probably worse. Same thing with Gayle's list below. Sadly, as much as many of these people are highly qualified, America doesn't seem to be ready to vote for a woman, or another black candidate. Obama was enough to send them over the edge which is why i believe Trump got elected in the first place. I really like Josh Shapiro. He's a man who gets things done. He'd be a terrific president. But he's Jewish. This country is full of bigots who would not vote for him simply because he's Jewish. I actually wish Andrew Cuomo would run. He was watched all over the world during covid. It ticks me off that his career got blown up because of the harassment thing, especially when EVERYONE knows that Trump is essentially a rapist. what's a little harassment compared to that? He would not only be a terrific president, he's a man that wouldn't let MAGA intimidate him.
Couldn't agree with you more, except about Shapiro. As bad as Harris was, I think had Shapiro been the VP, the Blues would have won the election. I have no idea who actually chose Walz, but he was most definitely the wrong choice. He brought nothing to the team and weakened it with his lies. And yes, they were lies. But then, I think Shapiro also lied . . . Guess that's just the reality of being a pol: you have to be a liar to even get in the door.
Hmm. Hard to say about Shapiro. Right now there is so much antisemitism. I don’t get it, really. If I had to rate a Jew against what passes for Christian these days and human kindness, willingness to be tolerant and intellectual curiosity were the measure, the Jew would come out on top every time.
Yes, the lying tends to be endemic in politics but the democrats lies seem to be pretty tame compared to the republicans which are toxic and in so many cases, outright dangerous.
You're so right about the quantity and quality of the lies. But MAGA seems to relish Blues getting caught lying about anything and use it to their advantage. Why the Blues feel the need to lie about some of the stuff they do is beyond me, but it's out there and it will be used to their detriment. Were I picking a candidate, one of the first things I'd ask is what have they lied about so it could be addressed immediately rather than trying to do damage control at critical times during the campaign.
What a great idea. It seems like a big part of democrats problem is they are forward thinking, naturally, which makes them idealists but also makes them naive. I’m like that. I get caught all the time by lies or dishonesty or outright criminality and it’s because, I would never do that kind of things so I’m shocked when other people do. I think democrats tend to be a bit like that. Remember when Michelle Obama said, when they go low, we go high? That’s what I’m talking about and that is so naive. The Republicans are laughing all the ways to being elected when we do that. I say bullshit. Sadly, we need to get down in the trenches and be willing to fight a little dirty
Thanks for bringing up Michelle's remark. Sounds lovely, very principled, and for a millionaire/connected person like Michelle, it's great. Doesn't work for the ordinary American who doesn't have that padding of money and influence.
That philosophy doesn't work in today's political climate. The republicans are prepared to lie, cheat, steal, and probably kill, to win elections. to think we can defeat them by playing nice is, as i said, naive.
Kill -- yes. I'm sure you remember the gallows for Pence as well as the domestic terrorists who killed the police officers at the Capitol. And don't forget the thugs who wanted to kill Dem members of Congress. Moreover, if they're taking their cues from Putin's playbook, expect to see a rise in the number of people falling out of windows . . .
She's done her duty and says she no longer considers herself a "public person" which supposedly is the reason she skipped former President Carter's funeral. After what she, Barack, and their daughter went through as they tried to represent all of us I don't blame her for sitting this fight out.
We can still pull Michelle up.
no. not michelle. We'd have the same issue as with Kamala, actually probably worse. Same thing with Gayle's list below. Sadly, as much as many of these people are highly qualified, America doesn't seem to be ready to vote for a woman, or another black candidate. Obama was enough to send them over the edge which is why i believe Trump got elected in the first place. I really like Josh Shapiro. He's a man who gets things done. He'd be a terrific president. But he's Jewish. This country is full of bigots who would not vote for him simply because he's Jewish. I actually wish Andrew Cuomo would run. He was watched all over the world during covid. It ticks me off that his career got blown up because of the harassment thing, especially when EVERYONE knows that Trump is essentially a rapist. what's a little harassment compared to that? He would not only be a terrific president, he's a man that wouldn't let MAGA intimidate him.
Couldn't agree with you more, except about Shapiro. As bad as Harris was, I think had Shapiro been the VP, the Blues would have won the election. I have no idea who actually chose Walz, but he was most definitely the wrong choice. He brought nothing to the team and weakened it with his lies. And yes, they were lies. But then, I think Shapiro also lied . . . Guess that's just the reality of being a pol: you have to be a liar to even get in the door.
Hmm. Hard to say about Shapiro. Right now there is so much antisemitism. I don’t get it, really. If I had to rate a Jew against what passes for Christian these days and human kindness, willingness to be tolerant and intellectual curiosity were the measure, the Jew would come out on top every time.
Yes, the lying tends to be endemic in politics but the democrats lies seem to be pretty tame compared to the republicans which are toxic and in so many cases, outright dangerous.
You're so right about the quantity and quality of the lies. But MAGA seems to relish Blues getting caught lying about anything and use it to their advantage. Why the Blues feel the need to lie about some of the stuff they do is beyond me, but it's out there and it will be used to their detriment. Were I picking a candidate, one of the first things I'd ask is what have they lied about so it could be addressed immediately rather than trying to do damage control at critical times during the campaign.
What a great idea. It seems like a big part of democrats problem is they are forward thinking, naturally, which makes them idealists but also makes them naive. I’m like that. I get caught all the time by lies or dishonesty or outright criminality and it’s because, I would never do that kind of things so I’m shocked when other people do. I think democrats tend to be a bit like that. Remember when Michelle Obama said, when they go low, we go high? That’s what I’m talking about and that is so naive. The Republicans are laughing all the ways to being elected when we do that. I say bullshit. Sadly, we need to get down in the trenches and be willing to fight a little dirty
Thanks for bringing up Michelle's remark. Sounds lovely, very principled, and for a millionaire/connected person like Michelle, it's great. Doesn't work for the ordinary American who doesn't have that padding of money and influence.
That philosophy doesn't work in today's political climate. The republicans are prepared to lie, cheat, steal, and probably kill, to win elections. to think we can defeat them by playing nice is, as i said, naive.
Kill -- yes. I'm sure you remember the gallows for Pence as well as the domestic terrorists who killed the police officers at the Capitol. And don't forget the thugs who wanted to kill Dem members of Congress. Moreover, if they're taking their cues from Putin's playbook, expect to see a rise in the number of people falling out of windows . . .
yes, between the anti-vaxxer thing, the regulations designed to protect workers being pulled and your thought, expect the death toll to rise.
She's done her duty and says she no longer considers herself a "public person" which supposedly is the reason she skipped former President Carter's funeral. After what she, Barack, and their daughter went through as they tried to represent all of us I don't blame her for sitting this fight out.