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Scooterboi60's avatar

ABC, CNN and the other mainstream media are not worth it. As much as I like Lawrence O’Donnell and Rachel Maddow, I cannot watch MSNBC anymore after Joe and Mika sucking up to the rapist criminal insurrectionist.

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Carol Roberts's avatar

O'Donnell and Maddow would never suck up to Trump. Watch them at night and skip the morning ring-kissers. Great job Meidas!

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

That’s what I do, plus I like Joy Ann Reid.

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Scooterboi60's avatar

Don’t you realise that by continuing to watch you are feeding the executive who backs the rapist criminal insurrectionist? The only way to watch Rachel, Lawrence, Joy etc. is for them to become independent.

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WJB Motown's avatar

Agreed......Rachel Maddow wrote a book about nazi`s in America.....not a sellout move

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Andre Bonneau's avatar

It's a great book. She is so well researched.

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Scooterboi60's avatar

Trouble is, she’s still with MSNBC. When she resigns and goes independent then I will watch her again. By continuing to watch you are feeding the MSNBC executive.

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Ahbee's avatar

And she reads a great audiobook! The production was great with period music & actual nazi american speeches thrown in where they're needed. A must listen.

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Dick Montagne's avatar

Exactly 👍🏻👍🏻💥

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Rena's avatar

I think you're right!

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TCinDC's avatar

I agree. I watch CNN News Central in place of Morning Bloviating Joe, and then Live with Kelly and Mark on ABC, which is fun and refreshing.

I still like Joy Reid, Nicole Wallace, and Ari Melber. I don’t watch Rachel or Lawrence only because I’m done with politics by then, and am watching a streaming series or movie.

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WJB Motown's avatar

Hey TC......you are doing things backwards. Major early morning karma damage is going to kick in........ABC and CNN, when studies come out will be labelled FOXNEWSLITE.

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TCinDC's avatar

Hey Motown, I'm not ready to ditch the networks in their entirety yet. There are good, bold people at MSNBC and CNN who have not bent the knee, as well as at ABC, such as David Muir on the evening news. And Kelly and Mark's show is wholesome entertainment. David Muir would leave before compromising himself. Same as those at MSNBC that I mentioned. I'm not going to try to punish the remaining truth tellers. These honest and bold journalists will be the barometer for me if they start leaving.

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Scooterboi60's avatar

I know they wouldn’t. Trouble is, their employer has. I have pointed to them in past comments to resign and start their own channels or join MTN and then I’ll watch them again.

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Helen Stajninger's avatar

Please still watch MSNBC and the anchors from 4pm on. They aren’t giving in to Trump!

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Sharon German's avatar

No disrespect at all (do what you need to do to keep your sanity), but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one!!!

Guys, you need to realize that as long as we continue to WATCH our beloved nighttime lineup on MSNBC, THOSE ARE THE HOSTS THAT WILL KEEP THE NETWORK PROFITABLE! The higher ups at MSNBC know that the likes of Rachel and Lawrence will be hard to give up, and so they can spout their STATE TV bullshit during the day and early evening hours.

WHAT WOULD I LOVE TO SEE?

Rachel and Lawrence and all of the GOOD GUYS from MSNBC strike out and start their own online newscasts on a substack or podcast or something like that. I WOULD SUPPORT THEM AS A FOUNDING MEMBER (just like MTN and the others I currently support financially). However, as much as we love them, I doubt that they will ever give up their multi-million dollar salaries. To me, it's more important to tank the network to keep them off the goddamn air! I'D LOVE FOR THE NETWORKS TO LEARN THAT LYING OUTRIGHT OR NORMALIZING ERRANT, DISGUSTING, AND TRAITOROUS BEHAVIOR will NOT be rewarded with ratings!!!

But like I said up front, I totally get where you're coming from and all of you good people need to do whatever it takes to keep you strong and sane in the coming years!!! We SINCERELY, LOVE YOU ALL, MEIDAS MIGHTY and we WILL get through this together!!!!!!! GO MTN...GO BLUE!

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TCinDC's avatar

Once people like Nicole, Ari, Lawrence, Rachel, etc., start leaving then I'll abandon MSNBC. I don't care about MSNBC's, etc., profits, I care about good, bold journalists reaching not just blue people like me, but people who aren't. But in the meantime, I'm supporting journalists on Meidas and other platforms.

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Sharon German's avatar

Like I said, we all need to do what feels right for us! Maybe different approaches will give the best overall results…

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TCinDC's avatar

I hope so, Sharon. Meanwhile, what I think is most important, is that we start supporting and building up alternate platforms, like Meidas, The Bulwark, etc., because all of these MSM platforms are going to continue to degrade. The Washington Post is bleeding talent and will soon be another right wing rag. Check this out: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/31/business/media/atlantic-politics-parker-scherer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mU4.MS3T.5i4foSJKchwb&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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Scooterboi60's avatar

And that is what I requested of Rachel and Lawrence, even saying that if they can’t start their own, resign and join MTN. They would be invaluable.

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Shoshanna's avatar

I respect them and am glad they are not giving up but my heart and spirit are too broken right now to watch the news. I just can’t deal with what’s happening to this country.

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Shoshanna's avatar

I love Lawrence but my personal favorite is Nicolle Wallace. She is extremely intelligent, insightful and gracious, and I love the way she conducts conversations with her guests, responding to what they're saying in a completely unrehearsed and genuine manner. Even though I've sworn off watching the news at this point, I feel safe with Nicolle. She's the best.

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Cheryl's avatar

Me too. It’s a disgrace☹️ though I rarely watched Joe and Mica it’s the whole main media giving up on truth for me. My ears hurt, literally and instant headaches when I hear their voices. Now’s the time to speak up for/about democracy and show or teach the people more than ever before not give in. Giving in to the oligarchs and ignorant ppl just continues to fuel the flames of fascism. History proves that fascism doesn’t work that it’s dangerous to humanity and just don’t know when, where or how it comes for you. That’s why we need democracy so very badly. It’s the very bones of this country.

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WJB Motown's avatar

Who are Joe and Mica???

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Evelyn cox's avatar

Two sellouts

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Sharon German's avatar

The hosts of Morning Joe on MSNBC. They are a married couple, and I only watched them during Traitor Trump's first go round after CNN took John Berman and Allison Camarata (I'm probably spelling their names wrong). Joe was ALWAYS awful, but I expected more from Mika...what a disappointment SHE turned out to be!

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Shoshanna's avatar

I can't stand either one of them! He talks over her all the time and is totally disrespectful, as if he doesn't even hear her. And she is intimidated by him. Never watched, never will.

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Sharon German's avatar

OH us too!!! I heard a couple of weeks ago that MSNBC leadership wants to have 'a better relationship' with the American Nazi Party (formerly known as the GOP)...While Rachel and Lawrence would certainly never betray us, we simply feel we can no longer support this or ANY cable or local news (ABC, NBC, & CBS, etc..) being on the air...

REMEMBER!!!

IT WAS CABLE AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA NETWORKS THAT NORMALIZED TRUMP FOR RATINGS AND PROFITS!!!! So we need THEIR ratings to FAIL too, so that MSNBC can't LIVE OFF Rachel and Lawrence, while the rest of the daytime lot PEDDLE THEIR LIES and continue to PRETEND that things are just the same as they always were, WHEN THEY ARE NOT!

It is my fondest wish that we eliminate ALL cable and mainstream media outlets from the airwaves, due to lack of ratings/profits!!! EVERY cable and mainstream media network has betrayed this country in some way, and it's my opinion that it won't be long before EVERY ONE OF THEM is officially STATE TV!!!!

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MohJoh's avatar

I still watch Joy and Lawrence and the weekend li rip. To hell with Mika n Joe- traitorous leeches.

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