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Enlightenment's avatar

Thank you for saying that - as a German who has many US friends I have not a single one saying they agree with or support the orange felon, Musk, Vance, Thiel, and his sycophants. Germany has to do more to cooperate with NATO, but there is a historic reason why Germany, after the second WW, was pushed towards a very peaceful country that used to be sceptical when it comes to the military. That changes more and more, particularly after Russia started its war against Ukraine. Further, as someone who is very much interested in US culture I came (once again) across a song that may become more and more relevant IF Trump's regime is getting stronger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DGY9HvChXk

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Dana's avatar

I am slightly concerned that without the USA’s direct involvement, Russia will roll right into Poland and … right into us!!!! What are your thoughts ?

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Janet Sanderson's avatar

That is exactly why Ukraine was backed by Biden. A lot of the American people believed it was senseless to aid them because it’s “not our war.” They could never see the big picture…🥲

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Mary-Lou Rouviere's avatar

My feelings exactly. Isn’t that exactly what hitler did?

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MJean's avatar

Yes, you are right. And that raised arm salute by musk was no accident. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

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Phil Pyne's avatar

Yup welcome to Hitler 2.0

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Evelina Giobbe's avatar

Today Poland, tomorrow the world

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Phil Pyne's avatar

Poland always gets screwed.

Whuut we too nice?

I heard Germany conquered Poland by marching in backwards and Polacks thought they were leaving.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

We need Republicans to object -- pressure the Senate Republicans who voted for the Ukraine package https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4464791-here-are-the-senate-republicans-who-voted-for-the-ukraine-package/

Here are all 22 Senate Republicans who voted in support of the spending bill:

Sen. John Boozman (Ark.)

Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (W.Va.)

Sen. Bill Cassidy (La.)

Sen. Susan Collins (Maine)

Sen. John Cornyn (Texas)

Sen. Kevin Cramer (N.D.)

Sen. Mike Crapo (Idaho)

Sen. Joni Ernst (Iowa)

Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa)

Sen. John Hoeven (N.D.)

Sen. John Kennedy (La.)

Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.)

Sen. Jerry Moran (Kan.)

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)

Sen. James Risch (Idaho)

Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah)

Sen. Mike Rounds (S.D.)

Sen. Dan Sullivan (Alaska)

Sen. John Thune (S.D.)

Sen. Thom Tillis (N.C.)

Sen. Roger Wicker (Miss.)

Sen. Todd Young (Ind.)

… Trump was asked about Wicker’s comments about Hegseth: “I haven’t heard that. I mean, Roger is a very good friend of mine, and Pete is doing a great job. So, I’ll speak to Roger. I’ll speak to Pete. I’ll find out.”

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Teresa G's avatar

Pretty sopn trump will have never heard of hegseth

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Ed Garland's avatar

@ Teresa G ... That's gonna' be true for any of his thugs who eff up "the mission." Just a matter of time.

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Anna B's avatar

Doesn't really know him - doesn't think he's even met him ... /s

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Dik de Bruijn's avatar

It is not productive to contact members of Congress that are not yours. Your comments do not concern them because you don't have any impact on their jobs, which is all they care about. If they're in a solid red state, a bunch of Blues contacting them will be ignored. Your comments may or may not be forwarded to your rep. If you want to do something productive rather than just feel-good with your time, contact your own members of Congress repeatedly.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

You're always discouaging...Many of us live in red states.

Some, even in red states, actually koww some of them....

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Dik de Bruijn's avatar

I realize my remarks can be discouraging. They're meant to get people to look at the reality of the mess we're in rather than just making warm, fuzzy comments or wasting their time on stuff that doesn't make a difference. If you're doing something because your conscience demands it, that's one thing. If you want to do something that will have an effect outside yourself, you have to think differently. Ex: boycott Amazon. If it feels like the right thing to do, so it. If you think Bezos, with his 242,000,000,000 USD is going to miss a few million, think again.

And yes, consider the source. My grandparents' country was occupied by the Nazis. They were fortunate and got out before 25,000 of their fellow citizens were starved to death for resisting fascism. I have worked in D. C. as well as being an AUSA in a purple state. So perhaps I have a different mindset than many people here from both a practical and historical perspective.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

It only takes a few.....

Civil coercsive comtempt may solve some problems. But Trump has capituated to a foreign power --

I worked in DC and in Miami and California...worked with some of those senators...and their spouses. Believe me, they see it.

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Risë Taylor's avatar

Netherlands right, or Belgia? I live currently in Norway, which borders Russia, and is experiencing more frequent hybrid attacks. I have expat friendd from other nations, who remember WWII. I have lived/worked in other nations which were occupied, and still see remnants of the occupation in everyday settings.It makes for a more immediate mindset, as do my Ukrainian refugee friends...we have too fight as much as possible, even if sometimes overwhelmed and down for the count, temporarily.

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Ed Garland's avatar

@ Daniel Solomon ... Don't fret. Consider the source.

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C. Killion's avatar

Those Americans who couldn’t see what could happen.. also couldn’t find their ass with both hands in a dark room

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Barb O's avatar

Zalenskyy said just this in his interview on Meet the Press today.

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Donna Ketterer's avatar

They complained about our helping Ukraine financially. Wait till they realize who is helping the RICH ONLY.

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Bob's avatar

Trump’s cult members weren’t smart enough to realize that last time. Maybe some of them will wake up; the rest will blame Biden and Obama because President Musk will tell them to.

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ramona j's avatar

They are brainwashed to say that . But but but Biden, Obama, Hillary, that laptop of Hunters . Not us ,anybody else but us. Hypocrites

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Enlightenment's avatar

This would trigger NATO Article 5, and I do not think that Russia can afford to have another frontline, irrespective of the US's likely abstention. After all, the UK and France are nuclear powers, and Russia's economy is already down the toilet - so another war would threaten Putin's survival (he does not care about Russia, but about his own and, perhaps to a certain extent, his family's well-being). However, if Ukraine is given up by the US, Putin will use his then renewed and increasing power to destabilise more and more countries of the EU. Hungary is essentially a Russian ally, the same seems to apply more and more to Slovakia even though there is more opposition than in Hungary. Also, most radical parties (in Germany, Italy, France, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria,...) are very pro-Russian/Putin. I'd rather expect these countries to adopt Russian policies and lose strength as a Union, in the NATO, and this is cheaper and perhaps more effective than waging another war. However, on the short run, I do expect Russia to start another invasion of Ukraine from Belarus. That country is much closer to Kiev and the industry centres of Ukraine. Russia will try to get hold of Ukraine, because the current US administration will most likely abandon it, unfortunately and very, very sadly, blaming Zelensky for his refusal to accept Putin keeping the occupied territories, not returning the stolen children of Ukrainian parents, and not paying restitutions. Already, Trump has never condemned Putin, but rather Ukraine for the war...what do you expect?

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Carl Zingmark's avatar

Let’s get down to BUSINESS. Great coffee talk.

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Anna Oba's avatar

I’m not so sure they’ll be able to just “roll right into Poland.”

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C Giza's avatar

They will, and with The Orange Turd's total blessing!

(Just a side note. Many of the Polish people in Chicago voted for the Turd.

I just can't understand why, especially if they lived through the years when the Soviet Union had control over Poland.)

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Phil Pyne's avatar

Mary not dead yet?

Bullets still cheap.

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Pam Abernathy's avatar

It took Nazi Germany only a few DAYS to "conquer" Poland. We must be vigilant!

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Tim Fennell's avatar

Didn't Poland have an extensive training program in the early days of the war? Many civilians were taught how to use and care for rifles and other basic survival skills.

The Polish civilians did this because they didn't want a repeat of Sep 1, 1939.

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Dana's avatar

Unfortunately, I disagree. And I am not alone in feeling that this is a very real possibility.

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Anna Oba's avatar

I am not talking about Russia ‘s intent. I am talking about their ability to actually “roll” through Poland. Do you think Poland will just say “uncle”? And that the other Baltic states, Czechia and Finland will just watch?

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Dana's avatar

While Poland is working on possessing a robust and modern military, the combined strength of Poland, Finland, and Czechia alone may not suffice to counter a full-scale Russian invasion. (Finnish military is ranked 48th globally and I think Czech Republic is 53rd; USA is ranked 1st, then China, then Russia). However, the strategic advantage lies in their NATO membership.

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Anna Oba's avatar

I don’t want to belabour this as a face to face conversation would be more constructive. Russia can’t even make it through Ukraine. And perhaps, more importantly, should Russians somehow make it through Ukraine and enter Poland, will Germany just stand by and worry about the Russians making it over their border or will you immediately come to Poland’s assistance?

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Christine Villabona-Kuntz's avatar

I’m

Concerned as well !! Trump is acting on behalf of Putin’s wishes.

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Anne Hendrickson's avatar

I am also very concerned. Trump and Musk and Vance are handing the US to Putin.

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Phil Pyne's avatar

I think it’s way past time to be slightly concerned.

Get an Ar 15 they’re cheap !

Make it automatic!

Ask any red state asshole how to do that!

Then blast any Republican u see.

Three of them assholes in my family.

Oh well Civil war is going on right now.

It’s fucking war!

You gonna fight?

Kill em!

Or ur kids die.

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Jane in NC's avatar

We share your fear, Dana.

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Risë Taylor's avatar

150000 troops are being amassed in Belarus. Maybe to invade Poland and the Baltics. Maybe to invade Kyiv.

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Phil Pyne's avatar

Damm right get ur guns!

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Peg's avatar

You keep good company. There really is an amazing number of good people fighting this regime here in the US. Let’s hope we can build on it to get organized for the coming storm. Thankful we can rely on Meidas and so many other independents to show integrity and bring the truth.

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Enlightenment's avatar

Yes, we must not give up HOPE - tyrants hate almost nothing as much as their oppressed people's hope and unwillingness to surrender. Meidas is one of the most important sources of hope, I think.

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Phil Pyne's avatar

Thank u Peg it’s up to us 😊

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Ed Garland's avatar

Absolutely.

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Rex's avatar

Yea

Yes

Yes

… please

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Julie Elbers's avatar

That song always gets me…😢

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Arlene Row's avatar

Wow. I had never heard that powerful ballad. She was amazing. Heaven help us all.

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Enlightenment's avatar

Have you heard Nina Simone's "Mississippi Goddam"?

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Ed Garland's avatar

Yes. She also said: "You have to learn to get up from the table when love is no longer being served."

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Claude Hopkins's avatar

Yess! Nina S, MS Goddamn!

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Claude Hopkins's avatar

Vielen Dank! We, who Think Critically (Some of US remember...) stand awestruck at the Realpolitik before us! Ich werde Mexikanisch sobald möglichst!

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Gail Talbot's avatar

I would go Canadian. But, Mexico is beautiful.

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