You're correct, the GOP must be moved. To start with that it will help if people avoid the false dichotomy that everyone is left/right and has any allegiance to a political party.
I'm an independent who has always voted and kept up to speed on issues, but there are plenty like me who sit on their hands because for decades they don't think they've gotten much of use from the Dems either, as they went corporate. The great harm that is coming is waking those people up. Making this a shirts vs skins thing will not help with them. Thats why I appreciate MTN being pro-democracy and not feeding into the false dichotomy.
Jerry Weiss, Feathers of Hope, identified several Republicans who say they want to talk. Although the House members voted with MAGA Mike on the budget, many are upset, and some, like mine represent majority Dem districts and have complained about Trump policies.
I don't think they'll; have an epiphany and become Democrats, but they can be pressured to stop most of the Trump agenda.
My regret is my Rep and Senators are Dems, so I have no GOP to contact as a constituent at the federal level. I still contact them, because some Dems have stupidly caved.
But yes, with pressure and time, some members of the GOP will find their spine, just as I watched them do during Watergate. But I don't see we have a lot of time me to play with. I'm one of those older people out in the streets. We have to figure out how to get a broader base than that. I know better than to ask black folks to show up - they have good reasons. But the youth need encouragement to show. I'm not out there for the 401k I don't have. I'm out there to preserve democracy. People my age remember that it can be normal and useful to have a functional government.
Pressure the Dems. anyway. Some of them need to grow a spine as well and they all need to stand up against this administration no matter what their party. I continue to keep contacting mine, who are Dems, as well, and I sign every petition to counter the cuts to our programs that I am handed or emailed or receive online.
Waste of energy. It hurts when their DONORS tell them to stop. Republican donors like car dealers, car manufactiurers, local chambers of commerce, farm suppliers, and large swaths of Republican voters like MAGATS losing thier benefits.
My personal favorite is CANF, the Cuban American National Foundation. Where I live 3 MAGAT Cuban American House members, all who object to parts of the immigration policy and object to Cubans being considered as DEI by the Trump administration.
2 of the 3 once were Dem. Switched due to Cuba policy.
We also have many Canadian Americans, many with dual citizenship, wo pay Florida real estate taxes and employ 54,000 Floridians.
Even my MAGAT senator, Rikck Scott, sent me a letter saying how Trump is wrong, lied on Ukraine. Maybe if a ferw million Cuban and Canadian Americans -- mostly Republicans- pressure him and the other senator Ashley Moody? And the 3 amigos?
Massive protest NOW before the fascist ban it....provoke a violent incident.......create a false situation
Also start to prepare for underground resistance......study the ww2 resistance movements.....the pro-Trump fasist militas have been doing this. They are waiting for the Orange Order to move out......MAGA has declared war on the United States of America.
At the Hands Off rally at the Washington Monument, 4/5 in WDC there were a couple of guys wearing DOGE gear agitating/provoking/ engaging people with aggressive posture and language.
Good work.......Happy to hear that the Park Service has not bent over or kissed the ring..........36 thousand people today for Bernie/OAC in California.....Neil Young showed up and jammed with Joan Baez.......MTN broadcast it all!!
Ha ha. I nope.they we're shown like.most.any ! Police.officer.that their.buddy lost.an eye or.died.from a stroke.after.bear spray.in their.face!! Oh would.I love.to brake the jack ass.nose!!
When it comes to this issue NO DEMS HAVE CAVED. NONE.
The key issue IMHO is national security. Musk and tariffs are gaining strength. Congress is off two weeks. These Congressional Republicans are affected by their donors and constituents. Only takes a few.
They caved in the Senate and allowed that budget bill to move forward. Four of them voted for the SAVE Act in the House. My own Rep has voted well enough, but his response to DOGE has been to send me a frigging POLL. If he can't fight he needs to get out of the way. This crap is exactly why Dems lose. Learn to fight for soemthing. They used to do that. I'm old enough to remember.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. Schumer and ithers, where that budget bill is concerned, had the power to stop it in its tracks, because the GOP didn't have 60 votes. But a handful of Dems decided these were normal times, and they voted to let it go forward to a vote. That is caving, and it is true.
I was a federal employee and I know exactly why Schumer did it. You don't know what you don't know.
I don't want to lay out the downside to give anyone ideas but I experienced shutdowns and in 2013 when the Obama administration had a budget shortfall chose "sequestration" and I was personally involved. I sill have resentment for what happened.
Apparently 99% of the public is unaware what happens...including MSM....
I have always been a registered independent. And IтАЩve voted 3rd party on 4-5 occasions. I listen to what people say AND then I watch what they actually DO. And I expect those two behaviors to align.
Unfortunately the chasm between the two has widened, particularly with the impact of MAGA trumpism over the past 10 years. Now anything goes. Grabbing women by their genitals and making fun of disabled, lying, cheating, stealing, breaking the law, have all somehow become, not only acceptable, but expected, and even celebrated!
Politicians are held less accountable now than theyтАЩve ever been before. A big part of the problem is campaign finance, citizens united, gerrymandering, electoral college, which have all been compromised and manipulated to created a system that relies a vote votes in specific districts in a few states, and which often reflects the will of the MINORITY rather than the majority.
So politicians now spend most of their time securing big donors instead of focusing on writing proper legislation that reflects their constituents as well as their VALUES, which they likely ran on and won.
The system is broken. Do we collectively have the desire, the stamina, the will to stand up and demand change?
Thanks. The situation certainly feels dire. (And I was 13 when JFK was assassinated. I witnessed the atrocities of Viet, Nam, the draft, young friends coming home in body bags, the vast and diverse social unrest, mass protests, Kent State, minorities and women struggling for equal rights. (And of course the MUSIC, the arts, the youth cultural movements, both reflecting and demanding better.) And here we are again, dealing with the same issues.
Yet IтАЩm also a certified, card-carrying optimist, an idealist, who will ALWAYS believe in the IDEA, the IDEALS of America, worth fighting for.
Yeah about half of a century of me watching them increasingly do so. Try your Google Fu for shits sake. People have talked about this for decades now. I'm not spoonfeeding you.
Are you pro-democracy or not? If yes, cultivating the willingness to engage in real, respectful debates with fellow citizens is VITAL. As Aristotle already showed, without thriving public debate, no democracy can ever thrive - or survive.
And this is exactly what's wrong with so many "pro-democracy voters in name only" in this country. All you have to offer is cynicism.
A democracy is a government that works only FOR the people when it is BY the people. And that starts with engaging in real discussions, where no one indulges in vague "must be true because others told me" arguments...
I was actually just talking about you and me here. We can't outsource engaging in real discussions and backing up our own claims, or wait until everyone else starts doing so too. This IS what being a citizen means, regardless of what others do.
So again, any concrete example of what you meant when you said "Dems went corporate"?
Well, the Trump team being smart as a bag full of hammers, will continue to confound their base, upsetting elected zombie Republicans, who just by sheer odds of luck, will manage to resuscitate 5 of them with signs of a stirring in the cemetery already!!
I am going to! Concentrate! We wonтАЩt let this happen, I am a great grandma and wonтАЩt leave this world to the young generation this way! Come on everyone!
If Trump & MAGA aren't stopped in the next few years the resistance is going to move from protests & online communities to an actual civil war. They're doing everything they can to stay in power indefinitely, from voter suppression, removing all checks & balances & from what we can make out election fraud with the help of Musk.
Let's hope & pray they can be removed peacefully, but if not, like any other country being oppressed whether its here in the North of Ireland or in Gaza the people will resist and take arms.
"And you dare to call me a terrorist, while you look down your guns"
Yes, MAGA is тАЬdoing everything they canтАЭ however, they are facing strong (and increasing) pushback. Had JAN6 turned out the way Tramp and Lying Michael Flynn (among others) they wanted it to the orange idiot would have declared martial law.
His thugs failed the mission and he hit the curb. This reign of terror isnтАЩt going to lead to civil war because the trusting souls who voted [for] him are feeling the sting of betrayal amidst the threat of losing jobs, savings and hope they may have had for retirement.
No civil war but what is happening is Project 2025 is faltering. When his insiders see him crumble and begin accusing them of being тАЬdisloyalтАЭ the tide will turn. All indicators are in favor of the Resistance.
If you want to survive you have to fight for your freedom. Protest keep doing it. Resist the lies stand tall. Be proud of who you are the orange blob canтАЩt take that away from you. We the people for the people
тАЬSnitchтАЭ! ThatтАЩs a good one! That describes the kind of dick, I mean, DUCK <<quack!>> that MAGA Mussolini is.
Agent Krasnov тАЬSnitchтАЭ(whose Grandpa dodged the 19th Century Bavarian Draft) over the course of his first four years of slow rolling soft coup when King Trump stole legal box after legal box of classified top secret documents available only to members of the Federal Government with the Mount DENALI highest security clearance that we can only assume at best he stole in order to have a library of trophies to show off to his ex-KGB handlers from the Kremlin at worst to offer up as souvenirs in a menтАЩs bathroom lounge at Maro Lago for their leisurely perusal and to take pictures of for the entertainment and pleasure of his BroтАЩ Vladimir Putin and тАЬThe GuysтАЭ over there in Red Square, all of this SNITCHING in the spirit of the other SNITCH, the Federal insider of CIA legacy, Eddie тАЬSnitchтАЭ Snowflake, I mean, Snowden!!)
ЁЯО╡OhhhhтАж (Canada!)
ЁЯО╡The weather outside is frightful!
But the ЁЯФеFIREЁЯФе(of Impeachment) is so delightful!
Insane and dangerous! I hope we are able to survive him.
We will survive him! If Senator Spartacus can deliver a record setting filibuster, we can defend democracy too! Hope this poem inspires you: https://democracydefender2025.substack.com/p/cory-booker-is-senator-spartacus
The probem is we are a minority party. WE NEED REPUBLICANS TO OUST HIM. Talk is cheap.
https://jerryweiss.substack.com/
You're correct, the GOP must be moved. To start with that it will help if people avoid the false dichotomy that everyone is left/right and has any allegiance to a political party.
I'm an independent who has always voted and kept up to speed on issues, but there are plenty like me who sit on their hands because for decades they don't think they've gotten much of use from the Dems either, as they went corporate. The great harm that is coming is waking those people up. Making this a shirts vs skins thing will not help with them. Thats why I appreciate MTN being pro-democracy and not feeding into the false dichotomy.
Jerry Weiss, Feathers of Hope, identified several Republicans who say they want to talk. Although the House members voted with MAGA Mike on the budget, many are upset, and some, like mine represent majority Dem districts and have complained about Trump policies.
I don't think they'll; have an epiphany and become Democrats, but they can be pressured to stop most of the Trump agenda.
My regret is my Rep and Senators are Dems, so I have no GOP to contact as a constituent at the federal level. I still contact them, because some Dems have stupidly caved.
But yes, with pressure and time, some members of the GOP will find their spine, just as I watched them do during Watergate. But I don't see we have a lot of time me to play with. I'm one of those older people out in the streets. We have to figure out how to get a broader base than that. I know better than to ask black folks to show up - they have good reasons. But the youth need encouragement to show. I'm not out there for the 401k I don't have. I'm out there to preserve democracy. People my age remember that it can be normal and useful to have a functional government.
Pressure the Dems. anyway. Some of them need to grow a spine as well and they all need to stand up against this administration no matter what their party. I continue to keep contacting mine, who are Dems, as well, and I sign every petition to counter the cuts to our programs that I am handed or emailed or receive online.
Waste of energy. It hurts when their DONORS tell them to stop. Republican donors like car dealers, car manufactiurers, local chambers of commerce, farm suppliers, and large swaths of Republican voters like MAGATS losing thier benefits.
My personal favorite is CANF, the Cuban American National Foundation. Where I live 3 MAGAT Cuban American House members, all who object to parts of the immigration policy and object to Cubans being considered as DEI by the Trump administration.
2 of the 3 once were Dem. Switched due to Cuba policy.
We also have many Canadian Americans, many with dual citizenship, wo pay Florida real estate taxes and employ 54,000 Floridians.
Even my MAGAT senator, Rikck Scott, sent me a letter saying how Trump is wrong, lied on Ukraine. Maybe if a ferw million Cuban and Canadian Americans -- mostly Republicans- pressure him and the other senator Ashley Moody? And the 3 amigos?
NOTHING IS BETTER THAN SMALL AND MASSIVE PROTESTS!
Massive protest NOW before the fascist ban it....provoke a violent incident.......create a false situation
Also start to prepare for underground resistance......study the ww2 resistance movements.....the pro-Trump fasist militas have been doing this. They are waiting for the Orange Order to move out......MAGA has declared war on the United States of America.
At the Hands Off rally at the Washington Monument, 4/5 in WDC there were a couple of guys wearing DOGE gear agitating/provoking/ engaging people with aggressive posture and language.
We told US Park Police who responded.
Good work.......Happy to hear that the Park Service has not bent over or kissed the ring..........36 thousand people today for Bernie/OAC in California.....Neil Young showed up and jammed with Joan Baez.......MTN broadcast it all!!
Amazing!!!
Ha ha. I nope.they we're shown like.most.any ! Police.officer.that their.buddy lost.an eye or.died.from a stroke.after.bear spray.in their.face!! Oh would.I love.to brake the jack ass.nose!!
No violence from our side, though!!
Just be prepared......They have been planning this takeover for a long time.
When it comes to this issue NO DEMS HAVE CAVED. NONE.
The key issue IMHO is national security. Musk and tariffs are gaining strength. Congress is off two weeks. These Congressional Republicans are affected by their donors and constituents. Only takes a few.
They caved in the Senate and allowed that budget bill to move forward. Four of them voted for the SAVE Act in the House. My own Rep has voted well enough, but his response to DOGE has been to send me a frigging POLL. If he can't fight he needs to get out of the way. This crap is exactly why Dems lose. Learn to fight for soemthing. They used to do that. I'm old enough to remember.
NOT TRUE. All dems voted against it + Rand Paul.
Reconciliation. Hopefully will go issue by issue.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. Schumer and ithers, where that budget bill is concerned, had the power to stop it in its tracks, because the GOP didn't have 60 votes. But a handful of Dems decided these were normal times, and they voted to let it go forward to a vote. That is caving, and it is true.
I was a federal employee and I know exactly why Schumer did it. You don't know what you don't know.
I don't want to lay out the downside to give anyone ideas but I experienced shutdowns and in 2013 when the Obama administration had a budget shortfall chose "sequestration" and I was personally involved. I sill have resentment for what happened.
Apparently 99% of the public is unaware what happens...including MSM....
Schumer was in a lose-lose situation.
4 dems voted for it. I saw their names . Cant find article.will look
https://substack.com/@jr717/note/c-107900919?r=4hcex0 was in my notes
EXACTLY!!
I have always been a registered independent. And IтАЩve voted 3rd party on 4-5 occasions. I listen to what people say AND then I watch what they actually DO. And I expect those two behaviors to align.
Unfortunately the chasm between the two has widened, particularly with the impact of MAGA trumpism over the past 10 years. Now anything goes. Grabbing women by their genitals and making fun of disabled, lying, cheating, stealing, breaking the law, have all somehow become, not only acceptable, but expected, and even celebrated!
Politicians are held less accountable now than theyтАЩve ever been before. A big part of the problem is campaign finance, citizens united, gerrymandering, electoral college, which have all been compromised and manipulated to created a system that relies a vote votes in specific districts in a few states, and which often reflects the will of the MINORITY rather than the majority.
So politicians now spend most of their time securing big donors instead of focusing on writing proper legislation that reflects their constituents as well as their VALUES, which they likely ran on and won.
The system is broken. Do we collectively have the desire, the stamina, the will to stand up and demand change?
Read Feathers of Hope.
Thanks. The situation certainly feels dire. (And I was 13 when JFK was assassinated. I witnessed the atrocities of Viet, Nam, the draft, young friends coming home in body bags, the vast and diverse social unrest, mass protests, Kent State, minorities and women struggling for equal rights. (And of course the MUSIC, the arts, the youth cultural movements, both reflecting and demanding better.) And here we are again, dealing with the same issues.
Yet IтАЩm also a certified, card-carrying optimist, an idealist, who will ALWAYS believe in the IDEA, the IDEALS of America, worth fighting for.
Any concrete example of "Dems went corporate"... ?
Yeah about half of a century of me watching them increasingly do so. Try your Google Fu for shits sake. People have talked about this for decades now. I'm not spoonfeeding you.
Are you pro-democracy or not? If yes, cultivating the willingness to engage in real, respectful debates with fellow citizens is VITAL. As Aristotle already showed, without thriving public debate, no democracy can ever thrive - or survive.
And this is exactly what's wrong with so many "pro-democracy voters in name only" in this country. All you have to offer is cynicism.
A democracy is a government that works only FOR the people when it is BY the people. And that starts with engaging in real discussions, where no one indulges in vague "must be true because others told me" arguments...
So with that, any concrete example, at least?
Not happening. Lying is the new trumpublican law
And they don't debate or engage as we should . It's all revenge , crimes, cons , worshipping ONE MAN . Not normal times. Need better solutions.
I was actually just talking about you and me here. We can't outsource engaging in real discussions and backing up our own claims, or wait until everyone else starts doing so too. This IS what being a citizen means, regardless of what others do.
So again, any concrete example of what you meant when you said "Dems went corporate"?
Dude ,what.?
Well, the Trump team being smart as a bag full of hammers, will continue to confound their base, upsetting elected zombie Republicans, who just by sheer odds of luck, will manage to resuscitate 5 of them with signs of a stirring in the cemetery already!!
The Orange Diaper Cult will drink the Orange Kool-Aid anytime..anywhere---any place. There is no hope for them......
Does this work??
I hope my grandkids survive him! тЬМЁЯП╜
My granddaughter deserves to reach for her dreams, I will always fight for her.
I am going to! Concentrate! We wonтАЩt let this happen, I am a great grandma and wonтАЩt leave this world to the young generation this way! Come on everyone!
The Resistance is alive and growing. We are surviving him and the proof is the growth in MTN daily.
If Trump & MAGA aren't stopped in the next few years the resistance is going to move from protests & online communities to an actual civil war. They're doing everything they can to stay in power indefinitely, from voter suppression, removing all checks & balances & from what we can make out election fraud with the help of Musk.
Let's hope & pray they can be removed peacefully, but if not, like any other country being oppressed whether its here in the North of Ireland or in Gaza the people will resist and take arms.
"And you dare to call me a terrorist, while you look down your guns"
https://youtu.be/ouEXxK8VLhM?si=OJw2Q1qOiGQC1x_a
Yes, MAGA is тАЬdoing everything they canтАЭ however, they are facing strong (and increasing) pushback. Had JAN6 turned out the way Tramp and Lying Michael Flynn (among others) they wanted it to the orange idiot would have declared martial law.
His thugs failed the mission and he hit the curb. This reign of terror isnтАЩt going to lead to civil war because the trusting souls who voted [for] him are feeling the sting of betrayal amidst the threat of losing jobs, savings and hope they may have had for retirement.
No civil war but what is happening is Project 2025 is faltering. When his insiders see him crumble and begin accusing them of being тАЬdisloyalтАЭ the tide will turn. All indicators are in favor of the Resistance.
Hooray! Do everything we can!
I just hope HE is not able to survive
If you want to survive you have to fight for your freedom. Protest keep doing it. Resist the lies stand tall. Be proud of who you are the orange blob canтАЩt take that away from you. We the people for the people
Donald canтАЩt survive ME. The mere idea is ludicrous. Snitch has one foot in the grave тЪ░я╕П & depends on MY CRUMBS to President.
тАЬSnitchтАЭ! ThatтАЩs a good one! That describes the kind of dick, I mean, DUCK <<quack!>> that MAGA Mussolini is.
Agent Krasnov тАЬSnitchтАЭ(whose Grandpa dodged the 19th Century Bavarian Draft) over the course of his first four years of slow rolling soft coup when King Trump stole legal box after legal box of classified top secret documents available only to members of the Federal Government with the Mount DENALI highest security clearance that we can only assume at best he stole in order to have a library of trophies to show off to his ex-KGB handlers from the Kremlin at worst to offer up as souvenirs in a menтАЩs bathroom lounge at Maro Lago for their leisurely perusal and to take pictures of for the entertainment and pleasure of his BroтАЩ Vladimir Putin and тАЬThe GuysтАЭ over there in Red Square, all of this SNITCHING in the spirit of the other SNITCH, the Federal insider of CIA legacy, Eddie тАЬSnitchтАЭ Snowflake, I mean, Snowden!!)
ЁЯО╡OhhhhтАж (Canada!)
ЁЯО╡The weather outside is frightful!
But the ЁЯФеFIREЁЯФе(of Impeachment) is so delightful!
And since weтАЩve no place to goтАж ЁЯСВЁЯдЪ
ЁЯОЩя╕ПЁЯТп тАж and let it be known.